Commiefornians in charge of a secession movement

>Commiefornians in charge of a secession movement

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Fug

New California Republic is still a suitable name even before Fallout came out.

I support them leaving.

it's probably for the best

reminder that the Earth is due to remove California itself with an 8+ earthquake on the Richter scale, with 99% probability of happening in the next 20 years

put wood furniture on your ARs so they look more fudd

Enslavement of California when?

>Commiefornians leave
>Trump firebombs the cities and brings them back into the Union
>millions of dead CHIs, illegals, and libshits
>Cali now a Red state
Are there people who seriously think that this is a problem?

Sad!

Nothing will happen. They have legal weed now.

>tfw you can't buy a sexy wooden AR-15 in your local grossery

>buying one of those shitty """guns""" at walmart
shiggy

Do you guys actually believe that red states (outside of Texas) are capable of sustaining themselves?

What's the point of United States anymore?

I mean is there anything in common with a lesbian graphic artist from San Francisco and a unemployed factory worker Craig from Michigan?

>people who work and not afraid of anything vs useless women study majors and cuckolds

>People who rely on gibsmedat farm subsidies are capable of sustaining themselves.

I'm mean if their values are so different from yours, why wouldn't you let them go?

This one doesn't seem shitty for me

The primary reason we were ever united was "provide for the common defense".

The rest of the preamble is just puffery.

>capable of sustaining themselves
If you're talking about the gibsmedats for farmers and niggers, no. The economies are perfectly fine though

Big cities need food from farms and rural towns need our money to stay in business.

>Democrats lose
>California leaves in anger
>Democrats never win again

K.

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We used to watch these when I was a kid. I don't know what kids today watch, but clearly they are misinformed.

But does it apply anymore?

As young people all around your biggest cities feel like they've been fucked by the rural folk.

Why not go on your own ways?

this

Finland has 5,5 million people and we live in the arctic. I'm pretty sure California/Cascadia with millions of people could feed themselves.

Rural towns can support themselves through small economies without your money though. Cities can't survive without importing everything and economic growth. If the market crashes post-industrial and industrial areas get hit harder than resource based economies. The Midwest and the South are in better conditions than the Northeast and the West coast to secede.

The young people can fuck off to one of their utopian socialist shitholes if they don't like it

I think that you're forgetting about one thing

Those are some of the most happy jury members I've seen in recent months.

Well that's my point.

What's the point of having a massive 300+ million union where half of the population hates the other half?

>mfw blowing legion fags and ncr cucks the fuck out of my independent new vegas city-state

You guys are part of a Union though. And I advise to google what percentage of the resources you use are homegrown and how much us imported. Then reflect how it would be if you had 5 times tbe population and weren't part of a Union.

>Calexit
what a horrible name
Calxit would be a better name

It might be a bit salty but with all these tears they're probably set up for a few decades.

California might invest in desalination water plants.

I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a problem.

I mean with their intellectual capital I'm pretty sure trading with fresh water countries like Canada, Sweden and Finland wouldn't be a problem.

What was the point in fighting to keep the South in the Union? The point of preserving the Union is to preserve the Union. It's the same for every country that fights separatists

>not picking the objectively best option
>not choosing to live in a stable utopian dictatorship under Mr House

>california leaves
>the major democratic stronghold in the US is gone
whats wrong with this

We are part of the Union now and we were doing perfectly well before that.

I'm pretty sure California with 50m population would be perfectly fine as well.

I thought the the point was to abolish slavery?

And even if it wasn't, don't you think times have changed? 300+ million nation which can't decide on anything is not a real country anymore.

USA was a failed country the moment a part of the population had more right than the other part, now all of your "politician" are insanely rich people who doesn't care about the people, the whole Constitution Preamble fell apart when the people was fucked like a 2$ whore, if we separated the state like East-West or North South or maybe both, lot of things would be done, because the guys in ashington doesn't even care about what's happening in Iowa or Arizona
but that's just my point of view

California doesn't even have its own power grid and needs water from surrounding states

Your tears only make me harder

If the point was to remove slavery from the US Abe would have just let us go

>cali leaves
>us decs war
>nuke cali
>??????
>literarlly nothing wrong

what are they waiting for?

They're waiting for our superiors at Berkeley to grow some balls

Do you think later down the line America is going to comprised of different small countries like Europe?

>Implying i cry for a Rotten country
USA doesn't belong to the people anymore, Wall St now owns the country, but hey if you got the money, power to you, but don't cry when Trump will take back the HealthCare and you will Pay 1billion dollarydoos to get your heart fixed for the burgers you ate

>liberal separatists who are afraid of .22 pistols vs guys with AR-15s
Yes

it would be the best
at least now the people would be invested in the election of their President

>"""healthcare"""
Obongocare raised our premiums you dumb nigger

Oh fuck WW3 incoming

well at least i won't fear for my wallet if i got a cold
Trump won't represent the people, he will pass law for the lobby, enjoy your mandatory daily Monsanto™ protein bar while drinking that delicious Pepsi™

Neither will I. Because I work for a company that provides me with health insurance rather than being a nigger who depends on the state to help him when he ODs

They can't do that since USA is a federation and not a confederation. In federations , federeted states cannot leave the federation on their own will.

But honestly, why would you want to be in a country with people you hate so much?

What's the point anymore? All because of tradition?

isnt it supposed to sink into the ocean soon™? just build a wall around cali and then when everyone tries to flee u just put up big smug frog flags while millions of people claw on the wall wishing they didnt leave the us

but what if your company doesn't provide you anymore with that healthcare ?
what will you do

Because I like this country

This. Once you're in the union, there is no leaving. That question was settled 150 years ago, and the answer is no. Nobody leaves the union, we're stuck together whether you like it or not.

Farmers are unironically the biggest gibsmedats and dats rite in history.

can actually a state in the us leave the union?

No. And they need to stop asking.

No. Not anymore. Andrew Jackson, and later on the civil war settled that question. The feds won't let it happen, and quite a few people would fight to make sure the union stays intact. Nobody gets to leave anymore.

What is wrong from borrowing the name from a game?

Need Cali for the agriculture, livestock, and tech industry. I guess Hollywood too

so the states in the us are forever slaves? or is there not really a peacefull possibility for them?

Then I'll look for a job that provides me with health insurance instead of relying on the state to support my stupid decisions

Well if they really want to , they can start something like an independence war but is it really worth fighting the US army just so you can keep the next door illegal.
But as in peaceful term , a secession is simply impossible and unlawful. Even if the whole population of California voted in a bullshit referandum to leave , they can't without the federal state's permission.
And why do they actually want to leave ? People of California has elected the governor they wished to and Trump being the President doesn't change shit. Federeted states have their own legistlative , executice and judgment systems that are different than the federal one. Their systems are completely free from the federal order when the matter is about the domestic politics of the state.

But isn't there are fundamental conflict of ideas of how to run a country between the blue coastal cities and the red states?

Look at here The federeted state may leave the federation IF the federal state allows them to.

>State that tried it's hardest to fuck up the election since it has a high population is seceding
HAHAHAHA GOOD RIDDANCE, NEXT ELECTION WILL BE EVER BETTER YOU ANTI-GUN ANTI-FERRET HIPPIE SHITLORDS

Uh...didn't Democrats call on Texas to leave the union in 2009 so we'd be rid of those gun toting rednecks?

>In federations , federeted states cannot leave the federation on their own will.

In democratic world, the other states let them go.

Yeah. And if someone doesn't like the outcome of our political process they can fuck off to some other shithole

thx for the answer

Cities versus countryside, not state versus state. California outside San Fran and LA is much more redneck conservative.

States aren't people, they don't have the right to leave

The US isn't a democracy, stop it with this apples and oranges shit

That they did and they also said after Bush's reelection that the West Coast and Northeast should secede.

>"i dont understand how earthquakes work"

Federeted states do not have the priviledge to let anyone go , they are all tied up to federal state. It's the same in all worlds , be it democratic , monarchy or aristocracy. States can leave on their will in condefederations and US is a federation not a confederation.

What's funny about all those protests in the liberal utopias like Portland, Seattle, and New York is:
1. The edgy vaping fuckers probably didn't even vote
2. Trump is actually more for state's rights, so he is actually for them having their own liberal utopia.

>Caliniggers are eternally asshurt
Is anyone really that surprised

Please don't tell me they'll also copy the fucking flag.

This is true, if the feds let you then you are allowed to leave. But that's the thing. They have to let you, and they sure as fuck will not let anyone leave. The feds would go to incredible lengths to make sure nobody gets to leave, and if there is a war of secession then it will be enormous and it'll probably make most civil wars in the past 50 years look like child's play. Think Russian revolution levels of big.

Supposedly, Jiang Zemin told Bill Clinton that he greatly admired the American Civil War for our handling of rebellious provinces.

wait i have missed something, getting sick is not a decision, being poor isn't a decision, Obamacare was for poor people who were not enough poor to profite from other healthcare program, there is nothing wrong with that, unless you are a "I WONT PAY FOR HEALTHCARE BUT I WOULD GIVE ALL MY MONEY TO THE ARMY" type then ok, i'm ok with that

I see youre one of those idiots that believes everything Sup Forums shits out.

I'm ok with paying for health care for deserving people. Problem is that Niggercare was designed to give health care to those who are, as we would say, not deserving.

Healthcare is not a right, it is a commodity. If your bad decisions mean that you can't purchase that commodity that's your fault and no one else's. I don't like the US system but Obongocare is not the answer

Trump cannot have a saying in how free the federeted states are in their domestic politics. The federeted states are completely free ( as long as it does not contradict with the federal constitution ) from the federal state in their domestic politics

It's a mutated bear. They're not copying the flag.

Baby steps. You can't just go back to what you had before and call yourself 1st world.

You are not the one to decide that.

It's a ruse to eventually force SPHC.

In other news, at least 75% of entitlements in Sweden are now going to...let's just say people who aren't Swedes.

>Obongcare is supposed to be based off of the Dutch system
>Dems and Republicunts turn it into welfare for insurance companies
>people are pissed that premiums are raised
>they implement shitty SPHC
I fucking hate this country sometimes

Nah, free education, healthcare, all that shit you don't have.

Which is odd because you could totally afford it. You just really hate yourselves.

Racist cunt kys

Why is a sphc so bad anyway?