My friend is actually going to be studying electronic music when he starts college this fall. Please Sup Forums...

My friend is actually going to be studying electronic music when he starts college this fall. Please Sup Forums, how can I let him know, given today's economy, how irrational he is being? I need to stop him. I love music like all of you but you have to have a back-up plan these days.

fuck you, capitalist schwein!

I'm sorry that I actually care about my friend and want him to live on more than minimum wage, all while still having to pay off all of his debt = essentially impossible.

and you should be, capitalist schwein!

Electronic music major here. Fuck you and your money

But I'm not sorry.....

What country are you from m8?

let him do what he wants. if it's that important to him, he has accepted by now he'll probably never be financially successful.

ve vill ask se questshons, kapitalist schwein!

Look, I don't want him to be a lawyer and then to just hate his life when he gets older but he needs something of a backup plan. For example, I'm doing Film but I'm also doing an econ minor. He told me he'll be fine because, "I will get money for my music."

you aren't his friend, you're an enemy and he's going to regret everything in his life if you ruin his dreams. In ten years he'll detest you, you probably won't even know each other. But he'll be old, and his dream will be gone, but he'll have a pay check from a job he hates in a life that is meaningless and full of sorrow.

But yeah, it's probably a good idea he just give up all his dreams because his normie faggot friend suggested it to him because he doesn't believe in his dreams and wants him to fail.

People need to learn their own lessons. There's not much you can do.

You can explain to him that unless he has an exceptionally rare combination of luck and talent, he will end up depressed, broke and suicidal.

You can explain to him that his future wife, who married him because he claimed to be an 'artist', will forever look at him in disappointment, then disgust and finally apathy.

You can explain to him that his children will quieten down in shame as soon as a conversation about dads comes about.

You can explain all of these things to him, but it won't help. I would recommend you slowly start distancing yourself from this person because surrounding yourself with failure is unhealthy and contagious.

His family is lower middle class and he's packing like ~20k in loans every year.

>I'm doing Film but I'm also doing an econ minor.
no, you're just a failed adult. You're going to be an accountant, you're going to turn away from your dreams, because it's easy to just get a pay check.

You are a coward.

Lol, you're overreacting. By "stop it" I meant change it a bit. He needs something else that he can fallback on that will also pay off his loans while working on his music in his free time.

are you implying he can't figure that out on his own? Are you retarded? He probably knows he needs a job.

No I aint. im just smart enough to back my ass up with something resonable. youre just a faggot.

Not at all bud. I'm only a Sophomore this year. I have no plans on using that econ degree as I would rather have a shitty job a film production company than at a firm. But to have no fallback, with parents who can't afford to have you fall back on them let alone pay off your college tuition, and pretty much have no job prospects, that's smart? Luckily, I go to a better college than him and am not packing all that debt.

Tell him that he can learn everything on the internet. He doesn't need a teacher to tell him what to do.

Not my response. Please don't impersonate me. This is my response.

>sounds like you know from experience

>I have no plans on using that econ degree as I would rather have a shitty job a film production company than at a firm.

I think you need someone to have a fall back talk with you about how that's going to go.

He told me he doesn't want to minor or double major in any other field because he wants to put all his effort into studying music. That would be fine if he wasn't going to a school that was going to give him $80k in debt when his parents only make $30k. They're poor immigrants from India ffs.

I've already interned at some small independent ones in LA that have promised me jobs once I graduate. The difference is that I will have no loan debt.

unless he's getting a free ride, it's a huge waste of time + money + energy.

audio engineering is a slightly better choice but still basically a waste of time and energy you could use to make music, and you'll probably come out the other end becoming an audio engineer rather than a musician.

>free ride
Nothing near it. I say go for it when people say they want to follow their dreams. However, you need to be rational. I know, that sounds like the ramblings of a jaded and passionless 20-something who values societal acceptance over individuality. No. When it comes to college, I value actually having a plan for your life IF the risks are incredibly high for yourself and for those who financially support you.

Uni is free in your country and your benefits are unbelievable. This is about American higher education and subsequent entry into the US economy.

>Are you retarded? He probably knows he needs a job.
Also, absolutely no to this. He really does not understand loans. That's high school preparation for you. He thinks he can pay it off whenever he wants. Also, the scariest part is he thinks he is going to make it big and be able to pay it off in at least two years after he graduates. Power to you, but goddamn the risk.

People who study music outside classical and composition in film and such are walking memes.

really? Most people I know who graduated in my film department have jobs in LA already.

>going to college to learn about bleeps and bloops in depth

a friend of mine graduated with masters in piano and he has like 0 problems gettin a job

I don't think a degree is really any use for getting jobs like that. Having a good portfolio and networking is what you need, unless you're already rich and can blow money on a worthless degree learning about something you can get into on your own

than again, now that i think about it. piano is a real instrument unlike the electronic music