~ Death In June Edition ~ Let's try this again, last one was pretty good! ~ Discuss Neofolk; Rec; Get rect ~
Neofolk
Cameron Perez
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Christopher Nguyen
Can't post a link right now but you should check out Daemonia Nymphe
Ancient greece inspired band that made some great stuff
Logan Perry
Yeah, they're great as far as I listened to them. Which album of theirs do you like best? Heard of them through Rome, they played a show together. Wasn't there but I read an article about that.
Nicholas Wright
Oh fuck off. You don't need to make these threads a "thing", you fucking dolts.
Aiden Morris
Fuck you, I'm bored and I want to talk about music I like.
Ayden Smith
Does anyone here like Allerseelen?
Michael Brown
I'm sorry, I don't know how someone can legitimately say they love neo-folk or martial industrial unless they like Sup Forums tier lyrics and boring music.
Its not even that its bad, its simply boring
Lucas Price
>boring
What are you? 12? American?
Charles Morales
Eli Rivera
Rome is legitimately amazing
Jayden Williams
There is no other music that as beautifully evokes sehnsucht and wanderlust ;^)
Henry Robinson
Cameron Price
I think that if you don't want neofolk become a big mu meme you should stop those threads.
Luke Gomez
this has always been one of my favorites youtube.com
Oliver Clark
Bacchic Dance of the Nymphs and Psychostasia marked me because they are the first I listened to, but their body of work is really consistent in quality imo
Also can we talk about neo-folk without mentioning Dead Can Dance (and Brendan Perry's solo stuff) ? I don't think so because they are SIMPLY THE BEST
I suppose some people might not agree with me but 16 Horsepower is also right up there
Kevin Moore
if you tell me that this is bad you can go fuck yourself right now
Alexander Reed
No, I just think that neo-folk is boring monotonal music that has no personality behind it.
I mean, they are OK but still not my cup of tea at all.
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Robert Taylor
You don't have to like it,no one cares :^)
Landon Bennett
I think there's a lot of monotonous neofolk out there, but I don't see how you can describe something like this youtube.com
Jayden Ortiz
There are some BDSM freaks mixed with the nazis, if we count Spiritual Front and ORE as neofolk.
Anyway, discovery of the day:
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Jackson Robinson
Best DI6 album?
Andreas Ritter (Forseti; may he rest in peace) plays accordeon and other instruments on this one.
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Hunter Gray
No one ever mentions Matt Howden but this is beautiful. So beautiful.
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Rect.
Isaac Gray
Nada!, half the tracks are pleasantly electronic.
Evan Lopez
The Torture Garden is an amazing intro.
Anthony Richardson
i'm bias towards symbols because it's what i listened to on repeat for years before branching out.
Christopher Davis
Its been too long since a new Of The Wand and The Moon, probably my favourite neofolk band after DI6 and Rome
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Joshua Ortiz
Do you like Kreuzweg Ost?
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Christian Powell
>Montie
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dominic Murphy
Kreuzweg Ost is martial industrial.
Jordan Robinson
have you heard his stuff in Solanaeceae? It's pretty good
Justin Hughes
>mfw
Yes, but it's the same scene with lots of crossovers like Von Thronstahl, Der Blutharsch, Boyd Rice and even DI6. I'm pretty sure most martial industrial fans like some neofolk and vice versa.
Alexander Reyes
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Jace Harris
I feel bad for people who can't understand the German spoken word pieces from Aesthetik der Herrschaftsfreiheit, those are Rome at its best for me.
Mason Martin
Aren't those samples?
From Die Aesthetik des Widerstandes, I believe.
Lincoln Phillips
It's beautiful, thanks for the rec.
Christopher Harris
Is this the end game of neofolk youtube.com
Michael Smith
Anybody heard the new ROME record? How is it? I kinda feel they've been on autopilot since die aesthetik der herrschaftsfreiheit
Justin Miller
Its not great, dont see why I would listen to it instead of his better material. Some songs are good though
I was going to say I thought he burned himself out with Aesthetik, but then I really liked Passage to Rhodesia, so I dont know.
Justin Walker
I've listened to it a few times, wasn't really a huge fan sadly
Leo Mitchell
>stop talking about certain genres of music
what are you even doing on a music board u shit
Nicholas Bennett
I thought it was okay but nowhere near the ones I really love.
I see. I don't expect a lot but I'll give it a chance. Apparently the EP he released earlier in the year is its own thing rather than some previews of the songs for the new record like he uses to do. I'll check that out as well.
Liam Ward
>unironically listening to fascist music
Carter Allen
It's his return to greatness, felt like you before, didn't like anything since Die Æsthetik all that much. It's different, it's not industrial and not all that "folky" (like Rhodesia was) but it has a unique sound, distinctly Rome, the production is great and the lyrics are great. Imo best thing since Die Æsthetik, a new style that suits him well.
Jaxson Jones
>implying the alt-right has anything to do with fascism other than some superficial Sup Forums-tier racial dialogue
Andrew Carter
Fascism is a means to an end, its moral value is dependent on intention. Also, neofolk is not exclusively fascist music, it is in parts antifascist, music for the historically interested, for treehuggers, for occultists or just weird fetish kink.
Matthew Rivera
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The beginning of Agalloch's The Mantle sounds exactly like Fall Apart
I'm OK with this though, Agalloch is great.
Ryan Allen
>caring about that shit
Aaron Thompson
These kinds or references are all over modern neofolk. There are some Rome songs that lift parts straight from C93. It's an homage, not plagiarism.
Xavier Nelson
I was similar, and then I started liking the boring music.
Like, that's just it. Nothing else behind it. Are they horrible people? Probably. Do they make interesting music? Sometimes.
Samuel Roberts
Eli Martin
Sieben gets too little attention in these threads. Fucking genius.
Henry Richardson
I love Kreuzweg Ost's Iron Avantgarde and Edelrost albums, but have yet to get deeper into Gott Mit Uns.
I agree though that it's rather martial industrial and only some of their tracks are Neofolk in the way Triarii is.
pic related - Peaceful Snow - is your (You), OP. It's really good on some days.
Justin Martinez
I listened to that album a lot for some time, before delving into more obscure DI6 releases. It doesn't quite live up to my imagination of the hot steamy gay sex Doug and Miro Snejdr must have had recording it.
Angel Johnson
Well, that's none of by business. I don't know the songs from any other albums, and like quite a few of them.
My Company Of Corpses strikes me first, thinking of it.
Never heard Sieben before. Interesting - I love to listen to and play the violin.
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Pic related is a more recent excursion from Albin Julius: Der Blutharsch And The Infinite Church Of The Leading Hand "Joyride"
Eli Evans
>My Company Of Corpses
You're stirring up memories, my man! I'm not saying it's a bad album, it's just something I've heard too often. I really like the re-recordings though. The Snow Bunker Tapes is Peaceful Snow songs with more typical DI6 instrumentation.
Aaron Adams
Sounds good, will search for.
Pic related is a coop with Der Blutharsch, wasn't interested in it at the beginning, but I'm starting to like it.
Oliver Gonzalez
Listen to this song, guys:
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I think it's pretty good instrumentally, I like how they merge Roseclouds era DI6's style with these über-compressed martial drums but I can't stop cracking up at the "begging for gold" part later in the song, these voices just sound so ridiculous and the lyrics are so cheesy, I fucking love it, funny as hell..
Jason Rogers
I'm not a big fan of Von Thronstahl, but maybe you'll like this - if only for its lacking subtlety:
James Phillips
Yeah, that's a good record!
My first DI6 album was Roseclouds Of Holocaust, powerful stuff. Check out Black Whole Of Love if you can, only discovered that one recently, one of the more obscure releases. I also recommend the Symbols & Clouds Totenpop Re-Recordings and Brown Book.
Thx, will check.
Jace Scott
The best albums are nearly unobtainable.
A friend has the 1991 But What Ends When The Symbols Shatter, doesn't listen to it and teases me with how he never will sell it to me...
John Ramirez
>the bird is dead now
What did he mean by this?
Samuel Green
Thank god for soulseek :^)
But yeah, physical is something else.
That LP must be worth a lot.
Luke Nelson
It's the CD digipack, but also quite rare.
King Dude is also one of my favourites, had the pleasure to see him live twice and have a chat.
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Ryan Anderson
What do you guys think about this chart I've made some time ago?
Matthew Wilson
Saved for later, thanks. Will listen into some.
Sol Invictus - In The Rain - good choice.
Mason Ramirez
Good! Didn't listen to all of those, will do so in the future. I'd say it's missing Ordo Rosarius Equilibio.
Luke Wright
Is this considered neo-folkie?
Isaac Wilson
I can always expand it. I'm just gonna need some album recs.
Ian Anderson
Looking at the thumbnail, I'd say no. It likely isn't.
Excellent! Satyriasis by Ordo Rosarius Equilibrio & Spiritual Front should be on there, I guess. Also Eine Neue Hoffnung by Jännerwein. Two modern classics.
Christopher Miller
I'm new in neofolk, just listened DI6 and Rome from that list. What's the less martial thing I could listen to? I'd like things like Rome's Flowers from Exile
Samuel Ward
>like Rome's Flowers from Exile
Hyperion Machine, I guess. Comes closest to that album, feel-wise. Rome in general is pretty accessible.
Mason Collins
What distinguishes folk from neo-folk? I get impression that most of it isn't really about fascism or even politics for that matter, so what then?
Noah Gomez
Where should one start if they wanted to get into di6?
Grayson Gray
It's hard to define but the closest you'll get to the truth is describing it as European post-industrial folk or folk pop which tries to a large extent to ignore the American musical tradition and take inspiration from European pre-1960s culture, European history and landscapes. This also explains the prevalence of fascistic themes. Multi-ethnicist and anti-modernist philosophy is key.
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Discriminate
Connor Cook
apart from Rome, other artists?
thx anyways, I'll give it a listen
Kevin Bailey
Groups like DI6 aren't actual fascists though, right? I suspect that Douglas Pierce uses all the nazi/martial imagery because he merely finds it interesting or because of the shock value.
Carter Stewart
My neofolk folder.
I share all that shit on Slsk.
t. European :^)
Blake Perez
it's their only perfect album from start to end
Blake Flores
This guy is great, although his more recent stuff is more metal than folk. He's definitely neofolk crowd, though. I talked with him about rune things when he was in my city. He's a great guy.
Josiah Scott
Of The Wand And The Moon might be for you.
Also, more DI6.
He likely is a strasserist. A left-leaning National Socialist but a National Socialist still.
Are those flac? If so: stp42, is that you?
Thomas Perry
Listen to Oniric and Spiritual Front.
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Wyatt Long
>Are those flac?
Nah. My audio equipment isn't the best and most of the things I have are pretty rare, so flacs rarely exist anyway. I'm usually happy when things aren't in 128 kbit/s.
Carter Allen
Eh, I like Varg Vikerness's music and Douglas Pierce has never killed anyone, so it's not a big deal.
Dominic Reyes
mrko?
Julian Sanders
Daily reminder that if the Fascism flavor of neofolk disgusts you, this might not be your style of music and you shouldn't get into it just because people tell you it's amazing.
That being said, I still remember me more than a decade ago loving "Rose Clouds of Holocaust" for being a great song while still thinking it was Nazi music. Getting over that initial impression and finding out things weren't what they seemed made me a better person, though.
Christian Baker
more like this?
Nathaniel Lewis
Nope.
John Miller
I agree. If fascism disgusts you, this may not be you cup of tea.
Rome is anarchist though, listen to Rome.
Oliver Nguyen
Tenhi, Nest, Musk Ox, October Black, Pyhä Kuolema, Havnatt, Empyrium.
Adrian Moore
music is music, there is no need to let the author change how you think it sounds
Angel Young
This is an opinion a lot of people wouldn't share.
Angel Clark
Thats is plain not true. Image is a large part of the art of music
Evan Cook
instead of arising from folk music traditions, neofolk arose out of the industrial scene, which is why there's so much crossover with martial industrial
initially it was referred to as "apocalyptic folk" which i think is a good descriptor. fascism or cryptofascism aside, neofolk tends to be dark and brooding
Cameron Long
>Excellent! Satyriasis by Ordo Rosarius Equilibrio & Spiritual Front should be on there, I guess. Also Eine Neue Hoffnung by Jännerwein. Two modern classics.
I will post the updated version tomorrow and some more recs would be nice.
Juan Sanchez
I still have this list flying around I made in 2012. Maybe it is of help to you.
Origins and Influences:
Changes - Fire of Life (1996/1974)
Coil - Scatology (1984)
Death in June - Nada! (1985)
Sol Invictus - Against the Modern World (1987)
The Incredible Stringband - The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter (1968)
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SPK
Throbbing Gristle
NON
Cabaret Voltaire
Test Dept.
Monte Cazazza
Current 93
Classics:
Blood Axis - Blót - Sacrifice in Sweden (1998)
Boyd Rice and Friends - Music, Martinis and Misanthropy (1989)
Current 93 - Thunder Perfect Mind (1992)
Death in June - But, What Ends When the Symbols Shatter? (1992)
Forseti - Windzeit (2002)
Nature and Organisation - Beauty Reaps the Blood of Solitude (1994)
Of the Wand & the Moon - Sonnenheim (2005)
Rome - Masse Mensch Material (2008)
Sol Invictus - Trees in Winter (1990)
Today:
Art Abscons - Der verborgene Gott (2011)
Cult of Youth - Cult of Youth (2011)
King Dude -Tonight's Special Death (2010)
Kiss the Anus of a Black Cat - An Interlude to the Outermost (2007)
Martial and Neoclassical:
Dernière Volonté - Devant le Miroir (2006)
Triarii - Muse in Arms (2008)
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Les Joyaux de la Princesse
Allerseelen
Der Blutharsch / The Moon Lay Hidden Beneath a Cloud
Ordo Equilibrio
Psychedelic and Metal Derivatives:
Empyrium - Weiland (2002)
Tenhi - Kauan (1999)
Obscurities:
Baishui - Winter (2008)
Ché-Shizu - I Can't Promise (1984)
Benjamin Miller
Most neo-folk really isn't fascist tbqh
Thomas Campbell
But it LOOKS fascist to the untrained eye.
Chase Diaz
What is your neofolk AOTYSF?
Mine is pic related. It gets better with each listen, even after 20+ listens.
Michael Evans
Douglas Pearce isnt really a fascist hes just interested in neo nazis and he talked to some eastern european neo nazis and now thats just the crowd they attract but they are not personally neo nazis