The Beatles

Everyone thinks they were the best, that no recent artist or album can hold their own against them (or at least, enough people seem to think so).

Let's think: aren't a lot of recent classics easily better than their earlier work? Take Beatles For Sale, or something like that, to represent their earlier work (so not Sgt. Peppers or White Album or whatever).

Aren't albums like:
>Madvillainy
>GKMC
>Kid A
>MBDTF
>XO
>In Utero
>Pink (Boris)
>Black Album (Jay-Z)
>(Any other "modern" album that has pop appeal but is also good, I just chose ones I liked, you guys take your pick)
much better than early Beatles albums? Of course, part of it is due to the increase in technology and ideas, etc., but still, I feel like these newer albums have a lot more going for them. What do you guys think?

>le bait

>classics
"Classics" being a very loose term here.

You really think an album like GKMC lacks anything compared to an early Beatles album, ignoring stupid Sup Forums tendencies? You really think so?

no but why the fuck you would compare their worst works and ignore their best? or why the fuck would you even compare hip hop to the beatles? you really seem like a master b8er to me

>everyone
"no"

Boris blows

The weren't the best, but they did a lot of shit other people didn't do at the time. They left a definite lasting mark on popular culture and music and that can't be denied. People are still getting into them, and listening to them today and it proves of their staying power.

>Everyone thinks they were the best
Not true, by the way.

Stopped reading this trash right here.

>Let's think: aren't a lot of recent classics easily better than their earlier work? Take Beatles For Sale, or something like that, to represent their earlier work (so not Sgt. Peppers or White Album or whatever).
>Aren't albums like:
>>Madvillainy
>>GKMC
>>Kid A
>>MBDTF
>>XO
>>In Utero
>>Pink (Boris)
>>Black Album (Jay-Z)
>>(Any other "modern" album that has pop appeal but is also good, I just chose ones I liked, you guys take your pick)

This can't not be b8

you dumb as fuck lad everyone agrees their early stuff isn't worth mentioning and you just ignore that lol.

they were a boyband, then GOAT not the other way around

I think their early stuff has it's place. You have to look at it more through a historical lens, like a Chuck Berry or Elvis or Buddy Holly.

The energy and chemistry that allowed the band to develop into something legendary is still on those early records.

I legit think Hard Day's Night is just a pretty good listen, too.

You're literally proving that The Beatles are the best band of all time by taking what you consider to be masterpieces of modern music and saying "b-but look, they are better than the early Beatles albums which no one consider to be that great".

Why not compare those albums to Rubber Soul and beyond if you want to make a statement about The Beatles? You're pretty much implying in your post that the albums you listed do not compare to the likes of Revolver, MMT, White, etc (which woukd be true).

Early Beatles is the only good Beatles.

Sgt Pepper's onwards they became boring pandering dogshit

>le contrarianism xD

I agree but it still wasn't close to their best works. their first albums they a legit boyband that copied stuff. luckily for them they were talented as fuck

This is my sincere opinion you retard.

Early Beatles is fun, energetic, well-written rock and roll.

Sgt Pepper's onwards they became mediocre, pretentious, and generally boring save for a few tracks. They changed their sound to add baroque instrumentation and annoying "psychedelic" sound effects to appease older listeners, as a purely commercial move.

>You have to look at it more through a historical lens, like a Chuck Berry or Elvis or Buddy Holly.
If you seriously listen to those artists and think that they hold up less well than muh psychedelic Beatles then you've been brain damaged by overproduction and psuedo-experimentalism.

I'm not saying they hold up less well, but I don't think you could put a Chuck Berry song and the radio and anyone NOT think it's from the 50s.

I think their are some Beatles tracks that still sound like they could have been written/recorded today, though.

Love all these artists.

>annoying "psychedelic" sound effects

Apart from Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite and Good Morning Good Morning Good Morning maybe, what sound effects are you referring to? I can't think of any songs off any post Sgt. Pepper's album that have any off the top of my head.

didnt mean the extra Good Morning there btw

"The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved."

- The best music critic to ever live

I love early Beatles too. Just not as much as later Beatles.

>they became more commercial from Peppers onwards
Are you for real lad? The opposite is true. If anything their more simplistic rock n roll tunes with their moptop hair from the early days was their most commercial phase. Becoming a psych rock band was certainly not a commerical move considering the success they had before.

Plus, look at the White Album for example. A ridiculously self indulgent double album with a wide range of genres and even an avant garde sound collage. They cared less about having number 1 hits and more about making interesting music (as well as trying to outdo each other). A farcry from the four lads working together to write as many 3 minute pop hits as they could.

I also don't know how the likes of Helter Skelter, Strawberry Fields Forever, I Want You, I Am The Walrus, Happiness Is A Warm Gun, the Abbey Road medley, etc could be boring to you, but fair enough. That just comes down to taste.

dudes used to play in leather pants and jackets, that must have sucked

How does one form an opinion like this? What have you listened to in your upbringing to come to this conclusion?