Was this the most cowardly attack every committed by any country?

Was this the most cowardly attack every committed by any country?

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Perhaps, but the nips weren't much better

Nanking

Japs were cunts, they started this shit by cowardly attacking Pearl Harbor.

How was it cowardly
We fucked their shit up

Dumb bruce, an attack is not cowardly per definition

the nukes were the end of a very aggressive fire bombing campaign which cost japan about 50X the loss of hiroshima and nagasaki

if it was australia they would have continued the fire bombing until they ran out of fire

Attack on Pearl Harbor was the offensive to the military. It isn't cowardly at all. It's wrong to compare.

Yes.

Because nuking a harbor equals to completely destroy two entire cities, right?

it's like using gas to make someone's lungs melt
it's like using ninjas to assassinate a clan leader
it's like a noble woman using poison to kill a guild trader of the Hansa

Yes.

nanking isn't an attack desu
Pearl Harbor would be the most cowardly

what was the purpose of attacking civilians?

I wonder how real Japs feel about Pearl Harbor

The japs were stubborn retards, by normally attacking Japan it could take years for them to surrender, therefore, drastically increasing american causalities.

USA made the right call to nuke them.

Basically terrorise a population into submission

No one does terrorism better than the US

None, but there was great purpose in bombing the military installations they were surrounding.

There is no good and evil in the war
Both are stupid

the only bad thing about attacking pearl habor was that fucking movie with ben assfucking afleck that was made because of it

>It isn't cowardly at all
:^^^)
The question was not about the deadliest, but the most cowardly. The nukes were cowardly allright, but backstabbing a country that kept itself out of the war until then is worse in this respect.
The point was to scare the soviets the fuck out of the islands AND .
If it had been all about fucking up the japs, they would have probably tried to invade (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall), and continued with the fire bombs.

so why not drop the bomb in there instead of the exact same middle of the most heavily populated part of the city?

>the women and children deserved to be punished for something they didn't do and had no control over

Except they went out of their way to target the center of the city and basically ensured minimal damage to military infrastructure.

Americans were definitely the bad guys here.

Which of the Pearl Harbor attacks was cowardly?

WTF I hate Australia now

What are you going to do about it?

>America
>kept itself out of the war

This is what idiots actually believe.

America was founded by terrorists. It's all tit for tat.

Everyone was the bad guy in WW2

>if you kill your enemies, they win

Really makes you think

>the women and children deserved to be punished for something they didn't do and had no control over
The japanese emperor put Japan's citizens' lives on the line when he started attacking everybody like a dement, if anyone here is guilty it's Hirohito.

It is illegal to kill civilians
You too can not say bad things about Japan

This

Japs aren't human. Their lives are worth about the same as ants. We've been over this

Why are you defending the US Huebro?
We stopped trying, the US has done shitty things.

But more Japanese lived in Hawaii than whites in1945.
Why did USA conquer Hawaii with no war crime?
Why didn't Japan have the right to return Hawaii?

USA didn't conquer the Kingdom of Hawaii. They allowed us the have naval based there. It wasn't until after the war that they applied for statehood.

Racism

Giving money=/=shooting and bombing
Japan attacked as a preventive measure, since the US had so much control in the south asia territories that they were planning to attack. So there is a reason behind the attack, but the US were not an official combatant.

The private citizen slaughter the United States did isn't only an atom bomb.
A city of more than 200 was injured nationwide for an air raid, and the hit population came to 9,700,000 people.

>the US has done shitty things
So did Japan, I just don't like how everyone licks Japan's balls and treat them like saints while blaming USA for everything, it's hypocrisy.

It has nothing to do with me liking US or not, it's just common sense.

All these fucking retarded America haters are hilarious. The United States was island hopping against an army of crazed and suicidal Japanese mother fuckers that would rather die than lose their home land. An invasion of mainland Japan would have cost both sides much more than what the nukes did. It's hilarious how you people vilify the atomic bombs but not regular firebombs, as if its less moral to be incinerated by the power of multiple suns instead of by conventional bomb. The United States got to end a war that it didn't start, and flexed on the Soviet Union with their new toy at the same time. Get fucked faggots.

I mean yea, America did some wrong too but it's not hidden and we admit to it. It sounds foolish when Japanese talk about these things like the USA was evil and Japan were angels.

>Br
>common sense

Everybody got their shit pushed in at WW2. Ask London and Dresden. The thing is that your government at the time was too stubborn to admit defeat and treated their citizens like cannon fodder. If you had been unlucky enough to get the red army to invade you, the atrocities would be way worst.

>pearl harbor
>soldiers who fight to die
>killing a military barracks
>same as holocausting 6 million japanese

It's not the A-bomb the problem. The problem is dropping two of them on civilians.

>invade a country and have millions of your own die or bomb the shit outta them and have thousands of theirs die
Seems like an easy choice to me.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor

4 battleships sunk
4 battleships damaged
2 other ships sunk[nb 2]
3 cruisers damaged[nb 3]
3 destroyers damaged
3 other ships damaged
188 aircraft destroyed
159[3] aircraft damaged
2,403 killed
1,178 wounded[

????????????

good to know holocausting prevented future deaths by communist massacres.

They're all pretty shitty but this thread is about the nukes. Funny how you cucks always bring up the firebombings like that's somehow supposed to be make the nukes look better.

Don't worry, they were all war crimes and help sum up why you're all around godawful shitty people.

How was pearl harbour cowardly?

That would be you if Einstein was kept in Germany

No one person is worth millions of lives.

But there was a mind to give up in Japan before when the United States drops an atom bomb.
The United States ignored that, and wanted to experiment on an atom bomb.

>USA didn't conquer the Kingdom of Hawaii. They allowed us the have naval based there.

That's absolutely not what happened at all. You annexed the islands long before and forced their capitulation at gunpoint. They didn't "allow" anything.

You suckered punched us by attacking our largest naval base without a declaration of war.

Atom bombs were dropped after we carpet-bombed warning leaflets all over targeted cities. We at least warned you what was coming, sneaky japs didn't give that courtesy.

Pic related.

Did you understand that Japan attacked the army?

>implying a-bombs are effective against anything different to a densely populated settlement
The problem is implycit in the weapon. if you drop it over an army you are wasting power, money and accuracy.

After the cold war, with computer nets the problem only got worse, since now you can't aim the bomb to a data center. Now, the only legitimate targets are civilian ones.

>You suckered punched us that's not fair
>must be cowards

Hundreds of thousands of innocents died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but an actual factual invasion of Japan would have been much, much worse. It was a shitty and cowardly thing to do, but it was pragmatic. Should have held off on Nagasaki.

Firebombs wouldn't have forced the Japanese to surrender

Japan was also bad and America was also bad
However, most Americans justify dropping the atomic bomb

>not declaring war before attacking your opponent

show me proof that Japan wanted to surrender, also Japan attacking the army means absolutely fucking nothing. We are talking about World War 2. You mother fuckers didn't care about citizens when you raped and pillaged your way through China and held competitions for most civilian beheadings using a katana. This is war, I won't even pretend to try to justify using the bomb on civilians but I won't sit here and cry either.

Not most of them. I'd say the only Americans who justify it are greasy hamplanets from the south who don't know anything about history. Most Americans believe it was the wrong move. At the time, however, ending the war was far move important.

It was cruel, but western Euros cannot possibly complain cause it was used to scare the Soviets from launching an offensive into west Germany.

Also prevented the mainland invasion of Japan by the US and USSR. It would be a nightmare and the Soviets would do what they did to Berlin.

Also, the "POOR INNOCENT JAPANESE" meme is hilarious. They literally experimented on Chinese civilians alive in Unit 731 to see if they could create bio-weapons to use on the United States. They were a threat and needed to be neutralized ASAP

>Japs start a totally unnecessary war
>Cry when they get punished for it


Fuck off axisfags

That's true but don't most Japanese justify their acts in the war?

>saved american lives by removing the need to land mainland japan
>showed the ruskies what americans are able to do

I dont see the problem, war has no innocent people

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>greasy hamplanets from the south
no
>who don't know anything about history
no
>Most Americans believe it was the wrong move
proof?

>You mother fuckers didn't care about citizens when you raped and pillaged your way through China

>Americans acting like they give a shit about the Chinese

I fully support the Americans dropping the bombs.

I don't give a shit about literally anyone in history, I did nothing to attribute to anyone dying. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of crying about killing civilians. World War 2 Japan was brutal and did'nt give a single fuck about killing anyone.

This is the power of ningen. This is why we need the Ningen Zero Keikaku

>if you drop it over an army you are wasting power, money and accuracy.
And still, you are showing to the enemy you have the most powerful weapon ever made.
youtube.com/watch?v=_f2f6zb7Fe8

>create massive military base as close to Japan as possible
>gets butthurt when they attack it

hurr guess we better nuke all of their cicvilians so we don't get demolished fighting their army

It would've been Berlin, but you surrendered before we had a bomb ready.

>you will never live in the parallel universe where the US nuked Berlin
why do we bother living

Do not you know that the United States made economic policy to Japan and provoked it?
The United States provoked in the first place

>place oil embargo on japan because you are genociding people
>then you attack us
oh woe as poor japan

well the US propaganda at the time dehumanized Japanese people and in the same piece made it a point to distinguish Chinese as allies so that people wouldn't mistake them as the enemy.

>Was this the most cowardly attack every committed by any country?
The war was on so it wasn't cowardly. If you have some b.s. moral issue with it, we had already been destroying their cities with bombings and fire bombings arguably led to more deaths. It's just notable because of the awesome power of each weapon. Nothing like that existed before.

>Most Americans believe it was the wrong move.

doubt it, im a northerner and always learned it was necessary in order to avoid an invasion that would be incredibly costly to both sides.

You invaded the entirety of South East Asia and began murdering and raping civilians so we stopped giving you rubber and oil. Are you seriously this dense? Do you really think the US owed you trade to continue your expansionist war effort?

The United States dropped a bunch of papers and played radio broadcasts saying they were going to bomb the place and that everyone should leave.

Pearl Harbor had no warning.

seeSeems about right. What's your point?

The Japanese deny it if lie
but the Japanese is taught that there is no justice or evil in the war itself

Hawaii was a territory of America in the 19th century, nothing to do with World War II. Your ignorance is showing.

Massacre of Nanking.
Rape of Comfort woman
Masacer by unit731.
Parehorbre
Japan are world most evil war criminal country.
Two nuke is not enough
USA should death punish to jap king in front of all of the people of japs

Yes. Americans are fucking retarded for defeding it and at the same time forcing mih holocaust meme down everyone's throats.
>b- but WE DID IT TO PREVENT EVEN MORE CIVILIANS GETTING KILLED AS A RESULT OF THE ONGOING WAR!!!!
No you didn't. You were just massive pussies.

This doesn't make sense. Why would an American General choose an option where tens of thousands of their troops would die (invasion of Japan) over one where none would die?

>If it had been all about fucking up the japs, they would have probably tried to invade (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall), and continued with the fire bombs.
>invade
>lose a million of your own while slaughtering millions of Japs.
I think we made the right choice.

Has literally NO ONE in this thread done ANY research on Japanese treatment of literally anyone besides their own countrymen in WWII?

The atomic bombs were absolutely justified, if not to end the war for America's sake then at least to end it for everyone around Japan's sake.

You know, Einstein was not part of P Manhatan, and he published the stuff on energy-mass equivalence years before the war even started. He signed the Einstein–Szilard letter, but that was mostly just encouragement.

>army attacking another army is comparable to bombing civilian targets with no military value (something invented by the germans in spain btw)

>massive pussies
are you capable of thought and reason? is war just a chest-puffing competition to you, where your soldier's lives are irrelevant, and you should just do the most manly thing possible even if it kills millions of your own?

just an idiotic post. why do I bother responding

Before that, the UK used it as a colony
It is more severe than Japan

>It's ok to kill thousands of civilians if you give warning...

The fact is America's were too cowardly and poorly traimed to beat Japan so you nuked their civilians like a bunch of pansies.