I want to study abroad in China to learn the language for business(plan on getting MBA and finance undergrad). My schools program is linked with a really good school for this in Shanghai, and what seems like an obscure school in hongkong. Although this is the case, I really really want to study in hongkong. It looks like such an amazing, dense city. When I look at videos of shanghai, it looks more boring and just doesn't seem to have the same personality. Is this true, or is this just from videos I have seen?
John Sanchez
Both cities are nice, while Shanghai definitely has a lot of business opportunities and such, Hong Kong still probably has the edge here, as it's considered one of the world's foremost economic powerhouses, along with NYC and London.
But, if you're wanting to learn Mandarin Shanghai is definitely the better option, whereas if you're wanting to learn Cantonese, Hong Kong is. In the end, it's more so dependent on which language you want to study. Both cities are great.
Shanghai seems just as crowded as HK tbqh. There's a lot of fun to be had in Shanghai especially if you make friends (and it's really easy to become friends with Chinese people if you approach them in Chinese/show an interest in Chinese language/culture).
t. lived in Shanghai and visited HK
Jaxson Thomas
I'm still thinking about a learning method. Is getting an easy text and looking up characters and writing them down good a idea?
Jayden Gonzalez
Is it like this pic? looks so comfy..
Kayden Johnson
It's all about finding the method that works for you. Try a few different things and see what works best. Some people prefer Anki sentence decks, other people textbooks, etc.
The rain makes that gif quite comfy.
Andrew Anderson
I wanted to ask,did they make a version of the old texts with simplified characters?
Parker Ortiz
Which texts? If you're talking about things like the Analects of Confucius, Sunzi's Art of War, etc there are simplified Chinese versions of all of them, that's how mainland Chinese study them, with the simplified character versions.
Jose Perry
Was asking about those. I don't know if I should feel guilty about using a simplified text. But if the PRC uses it then it can't be that bad.
Cooper Wilson
It's not really a big deal imo, the sentence structure/meaning is exactly the same, but it's just simplified characters that are used. The only time when people tend to care about using traditional instead of simplified characters is when doing calligraphy, and sometimes stores or companies will prefer to write their name in traditional.
Elijah Campbell
Thanks. I really liked reading Confucius. He was alwasy staged as this mythical figure who said a bunch of wise stuff. Most of the people here have really basic knowledge of him. >he was chinese >he was wise
But honestly,his philosophy is dead simple. I like his sense of duty and politeness.
which you might find interesting at some point. I plan on reading through it in a few months, it takes important sections of the Analects and breaks them down with vocabulary/grammar explanations.
I have read the Annalects and a sort of remake of the annalects. Both were good. I also read a few pages from the Si Ching (I don't really know how it's written,hungarian often differs from pinyin) But poetry isn't really worth mentioning when translated. The only critique of confucius I have read was Lin Yutang's but I took that with a pinch of salt,since so many things have changed since 1936.
Michael Collins
>a sort of remake >inb4 伪经
Adrian Allen
Well I finished my first drama in chinese. Time to just chill and listen to podcasts only understanding 70% of what is said for a while.
Anthony Cox
>understanding 70% >only how long have you been in this user?
Mason Perry
Not too long, but when I say 70% I mean like 70% of words about half of which are either 那个 or 就是. It's more like 5% of full sentences.
John Sullivan
I love this thread even though my mandarin is awful
>supposed to be giving a presentation to class on thurs about the 新疆问题 >spent all day dicking around and not getting work done
Chase Thomas
her friends were better
Elijah Cooper
>matter at hand:dissertation
Alexander Lee
why do you non-chink people like CHINARRRRR so much? your first girlfriend that you lost your virginity to an ugly chink girl or something?
third world subhuman people that have already developed a superiority complex similar to japan and korea, except they don't have the country to back it up.
二喜 a shit, and I can barely remember her other friends
Nicholas Rivera
We're all secretly neo-Maoists and CCP members working to reduce Japanese imageboard influence.
Nicholas Jackson
show me the connotative difference between subhuman and untermensch pls and plead
Parker Evans
>neo-Maoists catastrophically thickheaded
Nathaniel Taylor
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Jayden Howard
Isn't it a bad idea to choose 上海 since most people speak 滬語 on the street?
Benjamin Butler
You actually hear Shanghainese on the street less than you'd expect because a lot of Shanghai residents come from other provinces. Beijing is probably the best choice, but it looks like he only can choose between Shanghai and HK. And I guess it's more dependent on if you want your Mandarin to sound more northern or southern.
>tfw have a classmate with an amazing northern accent
its getting eliminated forcefully by ccp(schools,media etc)
Jackson Ortiz
citation needed
Dominic James
not taught in school no tv program in shanghaiese it sounds muhh better than mandarin imo much softer
Parker Richardson
>not taught in school I believe neither cockney nor geordie are
>no tv program in shanghaiNese there're bunches of locally
Jacob Sullivan
any taiwanese here?
Zachary Nguyen
Today is a pretty good day. Managed to get 3 chinese books. Sadly translations but still pretty good.
Brandon Gonzalez
At heart
Bentley Long
if that was enough I could just talk to myself
Ian Parker
>wanting to be chinese
Matthew Scott
even nowadays there are some chinese genetically highly similar to you youself you know
Mason Taylor
that's not exactly what we said, but sure
Evan Scott
I just like Chinese food It was one of the main things that crossed my mind when internally debating if I should study Chinese or not
Charles Bell
i know they teach welsh in school, yet how about cockney and geordie please
Jace Thompson
Lots of Cockneys are moving out of London to Essex where the accent is turning into an amalgamation of Cockney and post-war Essex dialect and it's being replaced with Multicultural London English
Geordie is doing fine because there's no immigrants from abroad or other parts of the country
Brandon Green
my question seems remain unanswered or were you suggesting the necessity?
Jack Edwards
of yeah I didn't properly read that question Welsh is a completely seperate language from English. The government of the United Kingdom is only responsible for Education in England. The Welsh government is responsible for education in Wales. It is the same with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Cockney and Geordie aren't taught in schools. Even though there is no regulator of British English, the grammar taught is the same throughout the country. It's just that the accent of the teacher will be different.
Even then, someone from Inverness would be able to have a conversation with people from Oxford, Leeds, Penzance, Cardiff and Derry with no difficulty whatsoever, and the other people would have no trouble either.
Nathaniel Green
>welsh is a celtic language learned something new today
Henry Nelson
They still teach Uyghur and other minority languages in Xinjiang though right?
Justin Gonzalez
No because muzzshits need to be eradicated
Levi Flores
Fuck off Nazi, Muslims are our friends
Josiah Cox
Not really in schools, children mostly learn it from their parents. Uyghurs' Mandarin level depends on their education level. I had an Uyghur friend who spoke basic Mandarin but couldn't read Chinese, only Uyghur.
Ethan Taylor
Bump
Xavier Rodriguez
is the r final in 二 etc pronounced more like the english r than the r initial is?
Jacob Williams
Managed to get a copy of the Jin Ping Mei,the autobiography of the last emperor and a small collection of Pu Songling's mystery/ghost stories
Nathan Campbell
Taiwan
Austin Cruz
feels_goodman.jpg
Wyatt Cooper
did u kno that chinese football released a new single 2day
There are three ethnic minorities education model in Xinjiang according to case.edu/affil/tibet/moreTibetInfo/documents/Bilingual4.pdf >The major bilingual education system since the 1950s has been structured as follows: all courses are taught in minority languages, plus Mandarin course as the second language (4-5 hours per week), Uyghur, Kazak, Tajik, Kirghiz students attend the schools in this model. By the end of 2005, 97 percent of minority students (1,189,456 students) still study in the model. >The second model has designed for Xibo and some Mongolian students. The mother tongue is used in primary school plus Mandarin course, the Mandarin is the teaching language in middle and high schools. By the end of 2005, only 0.1 percent of minority students (1,271 students) enrolled in this model. >The third model has been in practice since 2004, a group of course in humanities (language and literature, moral education, history, geography) is taught in mother tongue, another group of courses (mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, and English) is taught in Mandarin. By the end of 2005, about 2.9 percent of minority students (35,948 students) enrolled in this model. >But this new model has been enforced by the government and can be expected to develop in the future.
With regard to the third model, according to some recent Chinese source, it is still only accessible to less than 1% ethnic minorities in Southern Xinjiang which is home to most of ethnic Uyghurs despite of over ten-year enforcement.