How the fuck is leftism even real

how the fuck is leftism even real

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Leftism is all about emotion. That's why stupid college and university kids are the most into it. Our universities and colleges have basically become Extended Childhood centers where they feed students Marxist bullshit and coddle them to make them weak, pathetic betas

i just like to pretend to be a leftist online. IRL i have no political inclination

Communism and Socialism are NOT same word amigo. Sweden and America aren't same shitholes.
>Comparing socialist, affluent country with state religion and all kinds of amenities and bright future with shitty US of A
Ha ha ha

>sweden
>socialist

You are fucking retarded. Sweden is a capitalist country with a massive welfare state aka social democracy. The means of production are not owned by the workers or publicly. 90% of companies in Sweden are privately owned. 5% state-owned, and only 5% are worker-cooperatives. This isn't socialism in any fucking way. Every Nordic country is capitalist. They all operate within a capitalist framework and have the concept of private property.


Social democracy is not socialism.

>sweden
>bright future
3rd world by 2030

I really think political stance is entirely dependent on how cynical you are, communism, socialism, leftism - all of these look like retarded ideas if you are cynical (and perhaps more realistic) about them
Just look at the refugee issue
logical cynicism - the reason their countries are shit is because of the people in them, you bring those people here and our country is shit
leftism - those people live in a terrible country, we can just bring them here and everyone will be happy

Dumping ancom memes

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Don't mind if I join in

You don't get free shit in any anarchist society.

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>Sweden
>bright future

They've spent the last decade flushing themselves down the toilet by importing as many Muslims as possible, their demographics are fucked, their crime rates are up, and they won't be able to afford their welfare state because most of the people they're importing are poor and stupid.

*tips tinfoil*

Conversely, I just pretend to be a rightist online.

Collectives actually work well most of the time when they're managed by the workers and not an unaccountable bureaucracy. There's one right down the road from me.

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i am happy that white women in sweden are being raped enmass by muslims of the middle east and north africa

Daily reminder that leftist states are better than right-wing states and all the best countries on earth are liberal and all the worst are conservative.

fun fact: this is actually what my friend did

>tfw every rightist on Sup Forums despises "commiefornia" when it has the best economy of the US

>sweden
>bright future
this is what happens when you go to far left
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Reminder all the best countries in the world are capitalist.

>all the companies moving to texas

lol

You can be liberal and capitalist at the same time

Socialism=/=communism. You can have a democratic-socialist government with a capitalistic economy. They're not mutually exclusive.
Fucking idiot.

I never said they were you cretinous cunt.

>democratic socialism

You fucking idiot you are referring to social democracy. Capitalism and socialism are in opposition to each other. Socialism is public ownership of the means of production. Read a book dumb fuck.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

>Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production;[10] as well as the political ideologies, theories, and movements that aim at their establishment.[11] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective, or cooperative ownership; to citizen ownership of equity; or to any combination of these.[12]

en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Social_democracy&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop

>Social democracy is a political, social and economic ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a capitalist economy; and a policy regime involving collective bargaining arrangements, a commitment to representative democracy, measures for income redistribution, regulation of the economy in the general interest and welfare state provisions.[1][2][3] Social democracy thus aims to create the conditions for capitalism to lead to greater democratic, egalitarian and solidaristic outcomes; and is often associated with the set of socioeconomic policies that became prominent in Northern and Western Europe—particularly the Nordic model in the Nordic countries—during the latter half of the 20th century.[4][5]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism

>Democratic socialism is a political ideology that advocates political democracy alongside social ownership of the means of production, often with an emphasis on democratic management of enterprises within a socialist economic system.

None of the European countries have a socialist econony. They are ALL capitalist. The means of production are not socially owned.

Socialists are just poor faggots that get angry at the thought that someone else got rich.

Lol except I'm richer than you.

im so mad. I wish the government would step in and take your money away because im a poor faggot who hates freedom

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I'm a Vermonter. I already have a high tax burden but it's worth it because my state doesn't suck half as much as yours.

Socialism enables 19 year old high school drop out criminal record single mothers of 2 to continue to live their shit lifestyles

It also makes their kids less likely to turn into tax burdens.

The black community in America has been pretty fucked by welfare. 75% of black men abandon their children because the government will pay for them

Uh huh... welfare causes that...

>"entertainment" """""""""industry"""""""""
>only able to survive thanks to parts of the country that actually create wealth instead of just shuffling money around

this actually rustles my jimmies desu

If you don't think there is a culture of welfare dependence in the black community then you are an idiot.

americans have been brainwashed real good by the kikes and their megacorporations.

>yes good goy, be scared of these evil evil commies!
>yes goy, socialism=communism=liberalism=sjws=bronies=redditors and everything else you hate can be conveniently lumped right there, in the all-encompassing "left" boogeyman!
>yes good goy, these wars are for your good! for freedum, against the evil commies!
>yes goy, it's ok to pay 6000$ after you broke your arm because you fell from a flight of stairs in your home! universal healthcare? what are you, an evil commie?

>America being brainwash toward the right
>not the left
kek
Youtube and google demonitize and shutdown right wing youtubers and people with Conservative options

>then you are an idiot
It's possible that you are better informed than I am but I doubt it.

vast majority of americans have health insurance my poor shitalian friend

>amerifats don't understand what socialism is

lmoa

Then tell me why black america is so fucked. It's either culture, opression, or genetics

You're a retard. Socialism refers to public or worker ownership of the means of production. Neither of which exists in Sweden.

Because Black Americans are unironically stupid people that refuse to take responsibility for themselves. They have no one to blame for their problems but themselves

Asians encountered similar racism and discrimination when they first immigrated but they toughed up, worked hard, and now fit into normal American society just fine now.

So Venezuela>Singapore?

Well it's not genetics but it is a combination of a whole bunch of other shit.
1) Even if a black person isn't the victim of racism now their family probably was in the past. Upward mobility takes generations and they haven't caught up yet.
2) There's this fun little feedback loop that happens a lot: Blacks are poor>Black cities collect less tax revenue because the residents are poor>Black cities spenp less on schools because they have less money>Kids in those schools get worse education>Education is the single greatest predictor of income so black kids grow up to be poor>repeat
Poor education is also a major cause of single mothers which is yet another feedback loop.
3) For a long time the culture only promoted very negative stereotypes of blacks. people in a society tend to fit the rolls that society gives them (Thomas theorem).
4) there still is still racism. Many times it manifests itself as unconscious biases that people aren't even aware that they have.

This one is actually very good.

I don't think you need much education to know that you shouldn't rape, murder, or steal. When you compare all the looting and steal after the Tsunami in Japan in 2011 (virtually none) to the response to Hurricane Katrina (looting everything) there is a clear difference. I don't remember being taught in school that I shouldn't steal TVs during natural disasters.

Education promotes empathy. The more good education you get the less you are likely to be a criminal. Having more money also makes you less likely to steal shit. If you had a community of upper middle class, college educated blacks it would likely have much less crime than an all white trailer park full of high school dropouts.

Also Japan has this cultural thing called "wa" which they take very seriously.

So the Japanese can be influenced by their culture but for black people its all education no culture?

>Have no education, little interest in anything except raising your personal status
>Culture empthasises this is normal
>Act in a manner which isn't beneficial for all

versus

>Have lots of education
>Have a culture that places a vast empathises on acting for the benefit of the collective community
>Act in a manner which is beneficial for all

Gee, it's almost as if I wrote that four point argument for nothing.

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