finland might establish basic income in 2020s, it would mean everyone getting about 500-700 euros for free every month (progressive taxes would actually eat the gains away from those who go to work so its only good for NEETs)
if it happens, im moving to a cheaper country and live like a kang and fuck qts without having to do shit. which country should i go to? heres the requirements: -not an islamic/nigger country -people need to be white or slav or behave like them -cheap internet -cheap living in general that you can be comfy with 700 euros a month -must be easy to stay in with finnish passport, permament resident visa or something without too much hassle
It would mean that instead of having the option to either clean toilets for 1200 or being on neetbux for 1200
You can now go clean toilets and in addition to that get basic income, so less people would like to be neets as it would actually make sense for some people to clean those toilets
Leo Young
Also for OP it means he will not get extra money because he is a NEET, because they will also cut the neetbux amount so the total is still that ~1200€ maximum for his unemployed ass, this will more benefit and encourage low pay jobs, to reduce unemployment
Landon Robinson
Estonia
Tyler Phillips
finns are too smart for us who got conquered by jews, I'll go back to sucking bosses dick for the smegma he spares for us.
Levi Rodriguez
Why are finns master race? Why am I stuck in a anti social state where I'm free to die in a corner because boss decided to fire me.
Carter Edwards
They're doing a pilot of NEETbux in Ontario.
The Canadian government is very pensive about it, because it sounds really, really stupid, but some advocates say it's actually really, really smart, so they want to run trials until they can decide whether it's really, really stupid or really, really smart.
It will probably have unexpected negatives and positives, even beyond what they can discern from trial-runs.
Ayden Edwards
I heard Ur a gay is pretty easy to immigrate to and is relatively comfy
James Robinson
neetbux is same as public education, a common good neccessity, that gives more selection to consumers, allows more people to produce and such.
Liam Johnson
A basic income to replace all other forms of welfare could theoretically find much support from pragmatic libertarians in that it would drastically reduce and streamline government spending.
Cameron Gomez
It's a completely fucking retarded idea.
The province of Ontario IS THE MOST INDEBT SUBNATIONAL IN THE WORLD.
With our plan for free tuition for poorfags in 2017 and then basic income it's GG. Final nails in the coffin.
Basic Income marks the beginning of the end for humanity as a species. We are destined for extinction. Not by war, disaster, or disease, but by replacement.
Live your life as freely as you can now. You have so little time.
Isaiah Hall
Move here, senpai >-not an islamic/nigger country Check >-people need to be white or slav or behave like them Check >-cheap internet I pay $5 per month and can watch 4k video on youtube >-cheap living in general that you can be comfy with 700 euros a month On that amount of money you can live like a upper middle class here >-must be easy to stay in with finnish passport, permament resident visa or something without too much hassle Can't say about this but it should be easy to stay here if you have money and european passport
Jack Gutierrez
nice jew, public education is a basic income, and how much money has free highschool produced?
Mason Murphy
This logic lol
There's a difference between giving people free money and basic education.
We're literally the most indebt subnational. Surely this plan to give free money will only work out, like the rest of the Government of Canada and Ontario's brilliant ideas.
Sebastian Bailey
Basic income will be implemented everywhere in response to automation single-handedly unemploying nearly every human on Earth, except for the very wealthy. Everyone will be a NEET, and there won't be enough taxes around to keep people free. Every human will be locked in a 3x3 cell for the rest of their life until they die from old age or what not.
That is, if the robots don't decide to kill us first.
Julian Gutierrez
>basic income >neets also work comfy >neets can go study >neets become engineers >make much more money for society >repeat This only works for human nations such as finland, when you have Jews subverting and destroying everything good you might as well not do anything.
I think anything this massive will have negatives and positives, undoubtedly. The question is whether the good outweighs the bad.
A citizen's dividend is something I'd hope can be successfully implemented.
Brayden Flores
>neets don't work, robots do everything >neets can go study; it does them no good >neets can't become engineers; robots do that instead >don't make any money because everyone is on to the same forced welfare system with no way to move out >humanity dies out and the robot hive mind we've created slowly expands to the stars
Jaxson Green
come here :^) most people dont speak english though and everything is JUST in general
Brayden Carter
>NEETs will all of a sudden have a desire to study because the government gives them $800/month
And what was holding them back before???
Why didn't they work or study before? What's going to change?
Andrew Phillips
exactly the Jew.
Brayden Reed
>expensive social pilot project in Onta- Fucking Wynne flushes some more money down to toilet.
Liam Barnes
Yes, in the end, the incredibly wealthy jews who own those robots will be the only humans remaining. And then that machine will eventually swallow them up, too. The difference is that they will die free, we will all die slaves.
Elijah Wright
And that's why worst province isn't allowed into Sweden anymore.
Well that and the drinking, stabbing and talking.
Mason Morris
>work >be at sustinance level >study >have money to not worry about anything while studying This will result in a higher share of people with degrees, as well as increase consumer spending and increase the standard of living that's acceptable by a notch which will result in people wanting to make more money.
Camden Evans
>get money >get no money Are you retarded? How exactly are people being enslaved by getting free education?
Angel Peterson
lmao why work when I can just get free shit and a free apartment in benisland
Mason Turner
If you have the opportunity to be a NEET you have the opportunity to study.
I don't see how this would change very much on a fundamental level.
>Higher share of people with degrees are acceptance rates going to go up too?
And why is more pieces of paper a good thing, doesn't that cause high competition?
Austin Cooper
You can't live like a king, but a NEET can live with 700 here. With 1000 a month it's more comfy. Besides that, everything here meets your requirements.
Dylan Wilson
Would make no difference here. People already get loans to cover living costs. Those who don't go to uni genuinely don't want to. Not because they actually can't afford it
Easton Jenkins
You won't be getting money. You get welfare in the form of your free 3x3 cell and cafeteria dinners with every other slave. >How exactly are people being enslaved by getting free education? Because it ultimately becomes useless information that you can't do anything with. You can't travel, the robots don't let you leave. You can't work, the robots do all the jobs. You can't really do anything, the robots do everything. You're nothing but a mouth to feed until you expire.
Christopher Garcia
Besides how on earth will you pay for it all?
$15 000(literal poverty line) * citizens of country is a retarded number
Robert Sanders
Multiple reasons, fact is % of people with money making degrees will increase, your morals as to why they didn't today and will with this improvement has no meaning other than being a filthy Jew that I can see from 10 miles away.
Dylan Cruz
typical retard.
Adrian Peterson
>Those who don't go to uni genuinely don't want to. Not because they actually can't afford it Not being secure is one reason, this will increase share of people who get motivated to go to UNI.
Daniel Peterson
>Basic income Isn't this the thing the Swiss voted against when their government offered?
Carson Gonzalez
>money making degrees
supply and demand? If you flood the market then they become worthless.
And besides why would they go up if you're not touching acceptance rates? The same amount of people will be accepted.
Ayden Sullivan
holy shit, leafs are beyond retarded.
Isaac Stewart
good argument
maybe you should read the link and get an actual glimpse of the terrifying, inevitable future that humanity faces
Dylan Davis
>supply and demand? If you flood the market then they become worthless. only affects the power of employees over workers not the production aka money produced.
Lucas Lee
Stop your retarded nonsense, this is why I hate all these kiked countries.
Alexander Flores
>Money produced
Jose Watson
The red pill is so, so hard to swallow, isn't it?
Jason Reed
Productions.
Adam Russell
That is no red pill, that is stupid mizrahi low level Jew, do some high level Jew like for some reason workers being paid more will be paid less and that the less workers are paid the better the economy is.
Jordan Gonzalez
>more degrees = more money
Jonathan Roberts
>for some reason workers being paid more will be paid less They won't be paid more. Robots will take their jobs and then they will be unemployed like everyone else.
>the less workers are paid the better the economy is And the economy will be better. For the robots and the jews who own them. For everyone else, life will come to resemble that of a third world nation.
Noah Hernandez
Not going into basic income but the current neetbux system we have
The government does a lot to make sure you either go to work or get an education if you havent
Basically, you get neetbux, they ask you to find work
You don't show any interest in finding work or accepting work they offer, they cut your neetbux to the minimum
do this again and they will basically make sure you get educated in a vocational college or something
then if things continue like shit, they will send you to psychologists and tests to see if you are fit to work
now it's a lot more complex than that but basically the government doesn't want someone to just lay in their bed all day so they force you to do some basic shit to get that proper neetbux
this system has worked fine so far, don't know how it will hold up the more refugees roll in
Aaron Wilson
It's fiction dude. Fiction. Please calm down, we have much more pressing issues for human autonomy than being replaced by robots.
Easton Richardson
Why don't people save up money and move to countries with a lower cost of living again?
Matthew Nguyen
You also have a small, homogeneous population.
Try explaining this to niggers
Hunter Edwards
Like what?
Gradually replacing workers with robots seems like one of the easiest ways for the jews to enslave first world nations like America.
Tyler Howard
>Why don't people save up money and move to countries with a lower cost of living again?
Because it fucking sucks?
Countries with a lower cost of living generally have a whole slew of other problems.
Carson Gutierrez
try Romania, 700 is an average pay there so you would do fine, also its the worlds most christian country so no need to worry about muslims, nor niggers because they dont give handouts
David Smith
>nor niggers
What are gypsys?
Grayson Davis
That comment was probably written by one of our gyppos
Luke Torres
Really faggot?
>go to finland >fake a mental illness as an excuse to disqualify me from work >get disability payments and a nice apartment
Carter Kelly
I just don't know, I like the idea of a basic income, especially now that more jobs are being automated or outsourced. On the other hand, I don't like the idea of enabling NEETs.
You don't have to replace people with robots to control them when you can just use fear and division to do the exact same thing. >the jews Oh boy.
Hunter Myers
I don't mean "The jews" in a literal sense. I've just been on Sup Forums too much so I'm still using that language.
Brody Adams
I can't imagine how you'd afford basic income in the US before super robot AI's.
Put $15, 000 * number of citizens into your calculator. I'm not sure where you'd get the money for this
Noah Richardson
thank god i'll be out of here long before that
Joseph Phillips
Well you should stay off of there, because that shit seems to be eating at your brain. Take it easy, my compatriot.
Lincoln Myers
Underage are not allowed on this site
Dominic Clark
I'm not underage, I'm just autistic
Mason Johnson
if you have nothing to say, dont post
Elijah Hughes
Prove it, ID please
Caleb Reyes
Adopt me, I'm a bottom :'(
Tyler Campbell
Yep. Probably because the whole thing was really vague. How much do we get? Who does get basic income? All swiss citizens? Everyone living here? Many people are already in the "fuck off we're full mode", guess if you just had to live in Switzerland to get basic income that would've been probably some incentive for more people to move here
Cooper Clark
Hey op, we have same kind of thoughts. We should move together and breed that mongol semen around.
Nathan Anderson
>hurr durr the jews want socialism >hurr durr its the jews that wants us to work and stop socialism wew lad
Connor Allen
ITT: People from the other continent mix up Communism and socialism for Social Democracy. Effectively showing the extent of their understanding in the fields of economics or politics in general.
Grayson Parker
far harder to get disability benefits in america than finland. also you get much less
Samuel Ramirez
You just go on the streets and act like you are retarded and scam 60k a year from people as the dude in the video
neetbux also reduces crime
Dominic Walker
>american reading comprehension
did you not watch the video that was linked?
Matthew Torres
Social democracy is socialism. It's just that social democrats pretty much everywhere have revisioned the socialism out of their ideology much like they revisioned violent revolution out to create social democracy in the first place.
Social democracy is reform socialism.
Xavier Harris
There's a reason for lower cost of living.
Blake Howard
Romania
Landon Diaz
only a minority will be satisfied with 500-700 euro a month, most people will want more money than that and they will go to work to get it, people always want money. On neetbux you have no disposable income because it only covers rent and food and almost nothing else.
Most people will also want a social life because human beings are social creatures, and they will go to work to get social interaction. I know a neet who wakes up early every morning and is super jelly of the people driving to work. I also know people who could probablt have gotten neetbux if they wanted and just told the government they couldn't work anymore (like a machine operator that lost his hand) but instead he just works because he wants to.
Only a few autists will be happy with such a lifestyle, the majority will want more out of life.
Luis Wright
Your country is LITERALLY "le epic rather dead than red" - tier
Jacob Reyes
Wagies BTFO once again
Charles Brown
Doing stuff with your time is pretty good for you to boot.
Nolan Ross
>Most people will also want a social life because human beings are social creatures, and they will go to work to get social interaction. Are you willing to slave yor life away just because you're falling for the 'humans are social creatures' meme?
Ayden Hernandez
I know people like you exist, so I'm not at all surprised you are saying this. Then you go back to posting about crippling depression and tfw no gf.
Noah Rogers
>falling for the depression Jew and the vaginal Jew
Jonathan Clark
Don't get worked up by that loser. He can't even speak his mothetronque, which would explain his antisociality. Also he is a literal mongol.
Nolan White
IT'S NOT MY FAULT
Isaiah Baker
>Fenno-Swedish
Are you memeing or what?
Evan Perez
it is unironically your fault
Brandon Foster
se on yks ruottilangan homppelitomppeli
t. fennoswedu joka välillä kattoo mitä siellä tapahtuu
Jayden Carter
So it's my fault that I was born a manlet mongol?
Ryder Russell
His this Fenno-swede guy who was so antisocial he never learnt finnish. Also he posted his pic on here and it was literal turan tier.
Bentley Powell
>enabling NEETing even more
What could possibly go wrong?
John Watson
>tfw I was born in a wrong country I hate working and people. I am obviously meant to be a comfy NEET and not a wagecuck. Why why wasn't I born in FInland.
Hudson Wood
that you are such a piece of lazy entitled shit that you complain about not being able to speak finnish and pushing it as others fault
Caleb Sanchez
Don't worry, demographic development will crash it all down.