Official relevancy through all of history tier list

>Rome, Greece, Egypt, Sumer
>Assyrian Empire, Persian Empire, Byzantine Empire, Umayyad Empire
>Britain, France, Spain, Germany/HRE, China
>United States, Russia/Soviet Union, Italy (counted separately from Rome), Ottoman Empire
>Portugal, Mongol Empire, India, Arabia
>Holland, Hunnic Empire, Carthage
>Japan, Sweden, Nubia

ok list.
We and Britain should be tier 2 though. Usa tier 3. Don't care about the rest.

>Germany, France, Spain and China on the dame level as us

Spain is super important and China defined Asia.

I think India should be higher. Not modern India obviously, but it is an ancient culture that has influenced many things. They dont get enough credit imo.

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Stay quiet, sandfrog, remember that we will save you again in your next civil war.

China, Rome
Persia, Egypt, Sumer, Lmaoyyad Empire, Byzantine Empire, Egypt
Assyria, India, Britain, France, Spain, Germany/HRE, United States, Russia/Soviet Union, Ottoman Empire
Mongol Empire, Japan, Portugal, Carthage, Italy (counted separately from Rome)
Sweden, Nubia, Holland

Greece must be in the second row

>sandfrog
>save again
???

I don't see how you can say China > Greece.

Save yourself, first.

That's because you know nothing of Asia
Pretty ok but India is more relevant than many countries in tier 2

see no problems for that

>through all of history
well lad if that's througth all history
all of these has been global empires world wide
>Britain, Spain, Portugal, France
>US,CCCP
Control great zones
Rome, Mongol, Cartague, Umayyad, Otoman
As culture u can put Persians and Rome as Top tier maybe with Spain and Britain after that 2 u may or may not put the Umayyad there

You cannot put France and the rest of European civilisations (other than Rome, which tops all) in the same tier. France DEFINED the values of the modern world: progress through reason, republican values, human rights, etc.

Britain started the Industrial Revolution, Spain and Portugal opened the world to global trade, Germany is responsible for some of the most important inventions and discoveries ever like cars or nuclear physics, but we cannot compare to France. There would be no modern Western civilisation without the French revolution, no nationalism without Napoleon's influence or the 1848 spring, no counter-culture as we know it without May 68. From the surviving nations in Europe, France has obviously been the most influential.

And scratch Russia, or replace it with the USSR. Russia's influence on the world is restricted to the Soviet era. Before 1922, Russia's only moment of glory was taking part in the Concert of Europe as a "gendarme".

Napoleon has lost his grand army in Russia, and there was a quite successful war against the Ottomans. I guess Russia was the most powerful european nation after Britain in XIX, and then again it was second in XX after USA

what does relevance mean anyway?

for example, you put Sweden in the lowest tier but they both majorly influenced events in Northern Europe in early modern times and they had considerable and important scientific output in modern times. not to mention establishing Kievan Rus in medieval times

>I guess Russia was the most powerful european nation after Britain in XIX
Yeah with glorious bayonets charges because fuck modern rifles. Sure.
Russian miltary was doghshit and only good compared to cental asian nations.

it wasn't so bad even against England in Crimean War. And it was much better against Ottomans.

Swede-who?

but yes, people are forgetting about India

>204 years later
>still mad

>Fucking ruskies
>op bayonets
>thats unfaaair mommy

I wasnt talking about Napoleon dumb bydlos, stop drinking the Putin propaganda
This guy got it.

Mongol Empire should be ranked higher
They cucked China and Europe and changed their genes.

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