Why should my dad who earns 100k/annum have to pay around 45k in taxes yearly to the government of Canada? Then on top of that another 13% on things he purchases with the left over 55k?
Sure, he gets benefits, but does he use them?
Yes, he takes medication.
Yes, my mom has diabetes.
I haven't visited the family doctor in over 10 years.
My sister hasn't visited in over 6.
Why do we continue to pay her out of our taxes?
I don't go to a Catholic school, why do my parents pay into their system?
Why do the plebs pay only 10% - 15% of taxes out of 20k/annum?
Why don't they pay 45%?
Why do they get more tax breaks?
Why does the Government of Canada punish those who produce and reward those who don't?
Why do I have to live in the same neighborhoods and go to the same schools and walk among the same people who make 1/5th of my fathers income?
Why is Canada so fucked up in telling people they're all equal? Why am I forced to share my things with people I don't know in kindergarten?
Why the fuck can I not beat the shit out of my bully? Because its wrong?
Why the fuck do bullies get less discipline than the victim after the victim strikes back at the bully?
Why the fuck are we taught to stand up for ourselves and then get punished for doing just that?
Why the fuck can my friend work in McDonalds and afford Louis Vuitton and the newest Galaxy Note 4 and Timberlands but tells the teacher after class that he can't afford the $15 field trip for our Biology class?
Why the fuck is all of this true and each and everyone one of you can relate to this?
Fuck Canada. Fuck Plebians. Fuck Charity. Fuck the Poor.
Because you dont need that money and it makes the society better. If you dont like it go to a third world country like the US.
Henry Peterson
It keeps overall costs low, so when somebody does need healthcare a privatized system isn't charging based on profit margins. The cost to the taxpayer overall is lower than the cost to individuals overall, especially when the parts of the healthcare industry that are still private are regulated to prevent price-gouging, because the government doesn't like being price-gouged.
When your parents, you, and your sister are all geriatric fucks who need medicine to stay alive and have a very long and protracted death that would probably cost hundreds of thousands each in medication alone if you were American and had to pay out of pocket you will be grateful for the leaf on your flag, you dumbassed spoiled cuck.
Or hey, just eat a ton of burgers and get a free heart transplant. Sure you have to wait longer but it beats paying a million fucking dollars for one.
William Robinson
>Because you dont need that money and it makes the society better.
>Because you don't need the money that you earn
WHO the fuck are you to say how much I need? What gives you the right to decide for me how much of the money I earn I need or not?
Brandon Morris
because many people in this country arent as fortunate as your family. you think youre paying taxes so the rich benefit? dude you got it all wrong...
Gavin Taylor
>third world >literally the chiefdom of European Africa
Levi Jackson
OH WOW THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME THE PRIVILEGE TO WAIT YEARS IN LINE TO USE THE HEALTHCARE WE PAY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR.
>As fortunate
Do you think it's just luck? do you think money just came to us one day and money repels away from the homeless faggot who rather smoke crack than work a job?
fuck this shit stupid country. So glad it's finally crumbling
Brandon Powell
People basically accumulating money in a healthcare fund. So when you have cancer or flu money for your treatment taken from the fund. It just let everyone to get affordable healthcare.
It's maybe hard for you but making money is about luck. Of course if we are talking about entrepreneurship not average wagecuck work
Landon Ward
Me nothing im french dumbass. Dont like it leave Canada.
Nathan Morgan
>but making money is about luck
That's what poor retards tell themselves to feel better. This country is so fucking cucked. You basically get punished for success and being a piece of trash gets incentivized.
you're a fucking retard
>you don't need the money Why don't i need money i earned? How does that make sense? kill yourself fucking faggot communist
Dominic Wright
i dont know why it sent the reply to you, i meant to reply to OP. Sorry
Samuel Garcia
>Do you think it's just luck It was for you, faggot. youre talking about your parents money, not yours. if you wanna go live in sme libertarian paradise, please by all means go do so. but dont come crying to the canadian embassy when you get shot by some freedom lover and cant afford the hospital bill.
Adam Jones
>Why don't i need money i earned? Because you can live with less. And when you're rich you wont spend alll your money unlike poorfags. Which means you're hurting the economy.
James Green
>Because you can live with less
???
Everyone can live with less. That's the most retarded reasoning I've ever heard. How the hell is it not theft to take peoples' things like this?
Gabriel Turner
healthcare isn't expensive when the government doesn't fucking regulate it
You are either really retarded or really cucked. I can't determine which one. This country is a pile of shit. The wait times are fucking retardedly long and the average canadian spends thousands on this shit.
Oh wel #REFUGEESWELCOME #GAYPRIDEWORLDWIDE
fuck this shitty country
Gabriel Murphy
I make 80% of my money selling pinball equipment. I didn't know that it would be very profitable but i got lucky. I bought some equipment cheap and then resell it to a local club. Then they started to call me when they needed something special and I just ordered it from us. It was pure luck. Majority of my friends who is selling shit just abusing mainstream needs. There is nothing hard in making money
Ayden Reed
>healthcare isn't expensive when the government doesn't fucking regulate it have you ever seen an american healthcare bill? good luck paying that without daddys money. if youre so against our healthcare and tax system, take my last reply as a good piece of advice and move somewhere like liberia. and like i said before, dont come back crying for your parents credit card when you get shot.
Logan Nguyen
>have you ever seen an american healthcare bill? good luck paying that without daddys money
Have you, outside of sensationalist news articles on reddit you fucking clown?
Ever heard of this thing called insurance? Ever heard of when you opt to pay in cash they cut the bill significantly and you can haggle them down to like 10% of the original cost?
You're just a retard who can't think beyond reddit headlines of "Le amerikkka $5000k bill for broken arm xD"
Xavier Phillips
>100k/annum >45k in taxes Your dad is a fucking moron if he pays that much in taxes. Our taxes are not that high.
Luis Phillips
its past your bedtime. go to bed, kid.
Nicholas Fisher
Oh, OP is an ancap retard.
Nevermind, nothing to see here people, unless you want to poke the ancap to watch it squirm.
Anthony Green
OP is the most assblasted faggot I've seen on Sup Forums in a long time
Connor Richardson
No you don't have to be an anarcho capitalist to see how fucking retarded it is that Canada is one of 3 countries in the world that PROHIBITS PRIVATE HEALTH CARE.
The other 2 aren't even first... or second world. This country is incredibly retarded.
Give me ONE reason we don't have the option of private healthcare here.
Elijah Garcia
So do you have a valid argument about taxes, or are you gonna keep spurging autistic rants? When did i mention reddit? millions of americans go bankrupt every year from healthcare bills.
Juan Robinson
Yeah okay NEET
You're fine with it because you don't pay taxes. For you it's pure gain
Angel Mitchell
Move to a super capitalist country then, like estonia, chile or singapore, any of those Is great for the rich because you almost pay no taxes
Zachary Myers
I remember this copy pasta. BTFO you last time, want me to do it again? Doctor, willing to take less pay because I'm more in it to help people.
Isaiah Nguyen
youre making a lot of generalizations about me. how did you come to that assumption?
Lucas Martinez
you fucken cunt.
why do you feel so entitled to your own fathers money.
Jace Sanchez
>millions of americans go bankrupt every year from healthcare bills.
[citation needed]
Literally everyone has health insurance you retarded fuck. Do you actually believe hospitals force people to pay $400,000 or whatever crazy number? That's the price they bill insurance companies who then proceed to bargain it down.
>>>>>More than 52,000 Canadians travelled abroad for health care last year, study finds
Kayden Hughes
You do, it's called the United States of America. If you are like 90% of the population of this country you live within a 2 hour drive of the border. If you need emergency healthcare there really isn't that big of a difference. If you need longterm healthcare you can go to the United States if you don't wish to wait or if there is a procedure that the Canadian government refuses to pay for.
Socialized healthcare keeps the average joe and jane in the workforce sufficiently healthy that they can keep being an effective part of that workforce without the economic uncertainty that unpredictable health crisis can cause. You daddy paying half his income, which you adorably feel entitled to without a hint of irony or self-awareness, keeps the country running that allowed him to make that money in the first place. That is part of the social contract.
If you don't like it, leave. The border isn't far away. Try to make it in America. Chances are you'll be broke from failed or mismanaged business ventures in under five years and come crawling back like the rest of the filth.
Nolan Stewart
>Do you actually believe hospitals force people to pay $400,000 or whatever crazy number? yeah, thats how they do it. if one does not have heath insurance. go out into the real world and experience things outside of your daddies castle and get a real job. i bet you dont pay taxes either, but thats because youre 14 and thats ok.
Josiah Anderson
>i-i'ts not y-your money I-it belong to your parents xd
When this meme will stop, wealthy familias share their money with their children and then they pass all of it tp then when they get too old, it's called a family for a reason
>leleleelle spoiler brat xD
Nathaniel Myers
>yeah, thats how they do it. if one does not have heath insurance
That doesn't happen you absolute retard
Daniel Adams
You wouldn't have insurance when you're 27 and still living with mommy and daddy while working at McDonald's
>le deregulation is good meme With no regulation, prices go up due to monopolies and price fixing. If you or I were a CEO we would probably do the same thing. This is b8 anyway though.
Evan Cruz
this is simply not a mean sir, its a valid question
John Torres
proofs
Jayden Jones
>prices go up due to monopolies and price fixing
Monopolies and price fixing happens from governmen regulations dumb retard
How can you "price fix" if someone could just swoop in and provide the same service for a much cheaper price? Monopolies only occur due to government red tape and regulations.
Same way telecomms in Canada have a monopoly, when companies in the fucking desert have cheaper and better service.
Cooper Cox
>canadians memeing other meme bait posts
You make americans look smart baka
Hunter Ward
why are you so obsessed with memes, hombre? no ones mentioned memes here but you.
Brandon Lopez
>Move to Canada on dad's dirty money >Compaines about its laws and customs
Why not move and get a job back in China if you hate it so much?
Cameron Carter
this guy gets it
Ayden Turner
Because that's what gets billed to insurance comapnies, who then haggle it down.
If you choose to pay in cash you get a much lower rate.
I bet you saw that b8 picture posted here on Sup Forums with the $400,000 for child delivery and think Americans actually pay half a million dollars to give birth.
Connor Morris
The only good regulation Is the one that promotes competition desu
Ian Reyes
u got it
Samuel Gray
i asked for proof on what you said. not another autistic rant.
Blake Gonzalez
So i'm suppose to prove a negative?
the burden of proof is on you for claiming that americans actually pay those bills or that millions are bankrupt from hospital bills.
Jayden Morgan
If dubs Trudeau will become my boyfriend
Brandon Thompson
I think that taxes should be based on income, but never to the extent of a welfare state. Then you just end up with Communism Lite™.
You're going to pay taxes no matter what. That's just how it works. You live in a society; you pay taxes. Those taxes go to fund public institutions like education, military, roads, bridges, airports, healthcare, etc. Taxes are not inherently bad. At the most, they are a necessary evil.
Oliver Bailey
Is Obamacare a monopoly or pricefixed because the prices are going up next year and everyone without other insurance must pay.
Jayden Cruz
>haven't been to the doctor in 12 years >last time I used a health service was a dentist that I paid cash >mother has been to doctor once in 10 years >none of us use any kind of public services >all the shit we pay goes to foreign invaders
that's when I elected against working, I'll look into getting some sort of neetbux in the near future, because fuck that shit.
Evan Cook
Who are you to decide what to do with his money? The government should respect your private property that you rightfully earned.
Andrew Anderson
>airports The non-stop orgy of corruption and theivery from raping the public treasury and airline passengers is sickening. Seriously, fuck the airports.
Matthew Cooper
>tfw make nearly 100k and barely pay taxes
feels good
Sebastian Miller
>In CAR insurance, your insurance premium will go UP when you made car accident
>HOWEVER, In HEALTH insurance, your insurance premium will NEITHER go UP or DOWN by your health, it only depends on your income what the fuck is this?
>Why don't we make health insurance AS REASONABLE AS car insurance? Healthy people should pay LESS than frequently sick people
>WEAKS will die out, only STRONGS will remain, what a GREAT SOCIETY
Thomas Robinson
t. Socialope
Hunter Mitchell
Because your dad will still have more than enough to live from with 45k and other people are not as fortunate
Elijah Sullivan
Free healthcare means your Dad doesn't need to pay his employees for the benefit and more money goes into your spoiled asses pocket. Free healthcare means a reduction in crime as psychological diseases can be more easily treated. Free healthcare means a more content society that does not have to fear getting cancer.
I'm tired of wannabe Americans wearing our leaf. If you don't like the principle tenants of our country start using an American proxy, You're a disgrace.
Adrian Powell
>it's okay to steal because you have more than others
Isaac Reed
>I'm tired of wannabe Americans wearing our leaf.
Oh yes, sorry i don't support such Canadian virtues as pic related
This country is a joke. more immigrants pls
Angel Cook
Thankfully we dont need to steal because we live in social democracy. Your dad makes his money off the people and pays it back so even poor can live like humans
Aiden Sanders
>Free healthcare means a reduction in crime as psychological diseases can be more easily treated. >Free healthcare means a more content society that does not have to fear getting cancer.
Also I find this find given out wait times.
If you get cancer here you'll die way before your wait is up.
Oliver Cook
>we dont need to steal
What do you think taxes are?
>Your dad makes his money off the people
How? He's self-employed. Why doesn't he deserve the money he earns? Why does some syrian refugee deserve it more?
James Walker
Tax is not a theft. Its contribution to society. If you dont like it you can leave
Elijah Scott
How is it not theft to take money from people against their will?
Hunter Brown
If you dont like it leave. Now stop whining.
Jack Lewis
kill yourself socialist scum
Carson Torres
Nobody is forcing you to stay and work in Canada. Its your decision
Adam Murphy
So I'm suppose to just magically get a visa and move somewhere else because this country is shit and cucked?
Benjamin Mitchell
who are you to decide whose property it is and how the government should treat it?
Logan Gray
Yep. If you dont like it leave, country wont change how it works because you say so.
Owen Rivera
>if you don't like it, leave >moves to Bahamas >WHY DO YOU LEAVE TO BAHAMAS YOU RICH BASTARD ! PAY YOUR TAXES YOU CRIMINAL Libtard logic
Camden Barnes
>Leave As if it's that easy? You don't really have an argument do you
Brandon Reyes
>WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAA! >Muh rich daddy pays more in taxes than the bottomfeeders, so unfare! >GTRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Aiden Thompson
I think they want you to leave but keep taking your money any way
Gabriel Scott
My argument is simple. Canada believes that every person has right to good health care no matter how rich or poor he is. You disagree with it, so you should leave.
Zachary Sullivan
>hurr le durr I hate paying taxes because then I can only afford to buy one new Porsche every year instead of just two
Charles Ortiz
>Good healthcare
It's shit. There's a reason a record number of Canadians leave to the US to get their surgeries done.
Our wait times are literally 3rd world-tier.
>Canada believes Canada who? Don't remember the referendum to decide this.
Joshua Torres
This. See Depardieu in France fed up with the system he left for Russia and asked Russian citizenship, all libtards and medias here were super butthurt about it. Fucking retards
Jacob Parker
Public healthcare is the only way to keep healthcare costs affordable.
Privatising it only costs the government money via subsidies and drives up costs by funneling money into the middle men who run the private firms.
As far as I'm concerned, all private healthcare is profiteering because it is a service people need to survive. Private healthcare providers should not receive a single cent in government subsidies ever.
Great country. More refugees and gay pride parades pls
Matthew Stewart
You can obviously afford to emigrate.
Fuck off.
Alexander James
What is it with city-dwelling asians not understanding how to do their taxes properly?
The rest of us who live further out understand the basics, have no niggers around, AND get instant care at our hospitals since we didn't decide to live in the heavily populated municipalities.
If you hate how things work in your area, why are you not either running for office to change them or moving to a place you prefer?
Xavier Lewis
>instant care
Where do you live? Hospitals away from major cities are shit tier, and quality is nonexistent.
Elijah Perez
Communist Canada
Thomas Fisher
You're not the only person on Earth, faggot. Deal with it.
This childish, entitled approach to individualism is all America's fault desu. They keep telling their kids that only they matter and nobody else does that they grow up believing it and spreading this intellectual cancer to their own offspring - assuming they can find a mate, which is fortunately not a given thing.
Cooper Murphy
what is your father's work?
Jose Price
Haha good little wagie, thanks paying for my NEETbux!
Dance, dance, wageslave! Dance and spin around like the mindless cog that you are for me!
I'll just sit back, relax and reap the benefits.
Elijah Walker
Sure mate, go live in the wilderness, I hear that up North in Canada, on some islands there are no people. Of course your dad deserves to take quite a lot from a society and contribute minimal work. I don't think you understand how a society with relative service and social egalitarianism and high development works. The majority that earn less than your dad do more work and work longer hours and you probably don't even work to begin with, outside of Canada and similar nations, that majority changes to everyone. You're not entitled to shit. Keep living your good, easy-mode life while some poor cunts in the majority of countries hold your country up through being exploited and manipulated. Capitalism is a spook; if you're not poor and you don't work in STEM or politics and avoid adhering to corporations and establishment, then you deserve nothing and should have your irrefutable lechery eliminated.
In addition, what if I told you that your dad only earns that amount because of the amount that will be taxed? How about 55k/annum and medical costs above anything but basic checkups being completely unaffordable for 90% of Canada's population without going into debt and for most not at all.
Wyatt Robinson
>How can you "price fix" if someone could just swoop in and provide the same service for a much cheaper price Muh perfect competition doesn't exist, Jevons. There's this little thing called inflation. Your costs go up, and services inflation specially goes higher since there's no international competition there.
David Robinson
The Canucks are at it again can't wait to build that northern wall
Eli Robinson
You're stupid, but the dumb "socialists" in this thread don't know what they're talking about either.
If your dad pays 45k in taxes to the federal government on 100k he's an idiot. Personal federal income tax on taxable income is less than $20k - and that's when you're a dumb baby who can't save yourself money or hire an accountant to teach you how.
You and your sister are young and not sick right now, but where do you think the money will come from when you're older like your mum? Why the fuck do you think you drive on roads without tolls every 10 miles?
I make more than 10 times what your dad makes, and I pay for your fucking ass, too. But it just makes sense. If you don't save the poor from becoming poorer, you end up having to pay even more for them more later.
You live in a fucking fantasy, dude. If we let kids beat each other up all the time, trust me, you are not going to end up on the top of that totem pole.
You're just a poor, dumb, uneducated kid embarrassing yourself on the internet.
>WHO are you.. what gives you the right to decide In this scenario I would be the government, doing one of the things for which I exist. It's not about a matter of whether you need the money or not, it's what the country needs. People who think like you (man I don't need all this healthcare shit, I'd rather have my money) get wrecked, and take the country down with them. Don't think so? Imagine all those useless people who you say spend their money on Tims and spinning rims or whatever makes you mad. Now imagine how useless they'd be with a broken arm and no treatment. Even if we just let them die in the street and don't give a fuck, it costs money to clean up and tanks real estate prices, tourism, etc. You know, stuff your dumbfuck mind doesn't bother with but contributes the fabulous level of wealth you are enjoying right now compared to much of the world.
Jose Garcia
You've posted this thread before you fucking faggot, fuck off.
Jason Wright
>complaining about putting money aside now so you can afford something later Sounds like you're the trashy one, kid.
>You basically get punished for success and being a piece of trash gets incentivized. Not at all. With the money I make I live probably a hundred times better than your dad in real terms, and without headaches and frustrations he surely suffers.
>blah blah faggot communist Here's the thing: I'm a capitalist to the bone. I believe in it and I'm better at it than you, and I know what taxes are for and you are too dumb to know any of this and too lazy and petulant to learn.
Camden Lopez
>Monopolies and price fixing happens from governmen regulations dumb retard lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Blake Fisher
I heard that canadian healthcare system has a third world tier waiting time, and they force you to go to a family doctor before, even if you clearly need an specialist, and that most canadians pretty much can't afford dental care , it's that true or they are just memes
Ryan Gonzalez
Free college is also bullshit btw. That is the reason why in western countries, going to college is becoming increasingly useless.
Jason Reyes
>That is the reason why in western countries, going to college is becoming increasingly useless. Lolno. College is increasingly worthless for a whole passel of unrelated reasons, chief of which is a broken model of education based on something tailored to the needs from earlier this century. It worked wonders then but fails in the current labour market.
Really people would be working harder to correct this but the much bigger problem of AI displacement of labour is looming very close and time is running out.
Jack Cook
Free college grants talented but poor kids the chance to get a degree and climb the social ladder, buttroubles come when you allow meme-schools impart free meme- art programs with our tax money
