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European countries, how much do you value our common project? Let's be serious and don't use the memes.

Since I've been living here with the EU, it became super easy for me. I quite oftenly just go to Paris for a few days by train. Sometimes I went to Amsterdam, simply just to smoke things which are illegal here. The countries grew together so much, up to the point that there are shared TV channels and basically no existing borders anymore. I can buy french cheese in my super market and I liked the exchange bros from spain in my university.

Would you throw all this over board and become an encapsulated nationstate?

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if only finland wouldn't feel like an isolated island 1000km away from real europe ;__;

and im too poor to travel yet

but yes, i like the EU and my EU brethren

can you guys work anywhere in the EU or do you still need to get a visa for the country?

you don't need a visa for anything inside the EU, if for example i wanted to move to germany all i would have to do is inform the officials of my new place of residence within 3 months of moving there

>our common project

Ahahahahaha, good one

You can take a job and you can even buy a nice house and spend the rest of your live somewhere else.

Bawahahahaha fuck off krauts.

I hope France will leave the EU. European identity doesn't exist, I feel french, I feel european as I'm from the continent called Europe, but not as a citizen of the EU.
We got no common project, each country has different interests, which is why the EU is just a giant mess costing us a fortune.

When I have some money, I want a small summer house on the countryside in Greece, Spain or Portugal.

You can move freely but you can't leech

davidjackson.info/blog/2014/01/10/spaniards-are-third-worst-benefit-frauds-in-belgium/

>davidjackson.info/blog/2014/01/10/spaniards-are-third-worst-benefit-frauds-in-belgium/

And? Within your own country you have probebly some leechers too?

Look at the kraut, pricing young hard working Mediterraneans out of their own property market.

The kraut "unironically" doesn't understand why he gets so much hate. Those southern peasants should be glad they are in a union with an ubermenschen.

>hard working Mediterraneans

yea you can work anywhere, no you dont need a visa

As a fellow european I think that we have achieved something wonderful with this project of ours. Now we need to share some of this prosperity with people who are less fortunate than us. We should invite immigrants from more troubled regions of the world to settle between us. United we stand, long live Europa.

Look at the ammount of hours worked per year lad

fuck off

If I live there, I would spend all my wealth into this country. It would essentially be benefitial for this country. And I like it there more than here. Somebody else from the south could get my job, if he/she wants.

Italy for italians.

Assimilate minorities.

Remove muzlimz and niggaz.


This will be the paradise.

>having siesta at the office counts as working

Ok

It's time to stop posting Juncker, you're drunk again. Nobody likes the EU.

I'm quite enjoying it to be honest, but I'm concerned about its future.

Freedom and absence or lowering of barriers are good things, but there are issues that still need addressing, be it on EU or national or local level.
>youth unemployment
>social isolation and anomia among youth
>demographic problems: people don't seem to be interested in starting families and raising children
>recently: weak protection of external borders
>anemic economic development that also translates poorly into wages


You don't need visa but you do need to prove you're not a welfare leech, otherwise the country can deport you.

>siesta
The siesta is a meme.

Tfw ruski tries to provocate decent people.

Based Giorgio.
This for every European cunt.

They seem quite ineffective at handling the crisis that faced Europe.

The southern economies are still in the shitter, austerity was a mistake.

The refugee crisis was horribly mismanaged.

The eurozone is kind of lagging behind the USA in economic growth.

Damn you brits really are stubborn

It's time to stop posting Nigel, you're drunk again. Everybody likes the EU.

>europeans
>decent

I'm so glad Russia has finally volunteered to accept our migrants.

You can have them all. Shower them in your generosity and with your petrodollars you can't seem to spend otherwise.

Czech out this goy

Today it almost feels like being pro-EU is a contreversial opinion.

I'd vote for FN if they didn't promise to leave the EU and the eurozone, but they do so I won't vote for them.

Your country is a meme

he's right tho

You are pretty dumb.
Do you think you just couldn't visit Paris or Amsterdam before the EU?
The only thing that has become slightly easier for you is getting a job in other countries, but it's not like you couldn't work in other countries before that (just like you can work in non-EU countries today).

Then why do have to put up with your loudmouthed, unhygienic retirees?

speak for yourself

Czech out this putinbot

What are you trying to accomplish by using these primitive labels?

Are you genuinely so arrogant and egocentric that you consider everyone who doesn't share your opinions to be "goy"?

So your mother wipes their asses for a bunch of pennies.

>erasmus everywhere
you're neet i'm assuming. for young students or young working people liking the eu is the standard

>youth unemployment

They are now reaching their 30's, so they aren't exactly young anymore.

Basically all the western euro countries were like this till the late '90s

>0.05€ has been deposited in your account

>hip, cool people like me like doubleplusgood ideas

You have no idea. Erasmus leech neets like yourself like it, actual working-class people who have been screwed over by it couldn't give two shits about your subsidized party trips.

>>youth unemployment
>>social isolation and anomia among youth
>>demographic problems: people don't seem to be interested in starting families and raising children
>>recently: weak protection of external borders
>>anemic economic development that also translates poorly into wages
that's really a worldwide western problem more than a EU exclusive problem

>You are pretty dumb
Good argument. Have you ever checked the isa restriction once? I a frenchbro want to come here, he as to apply 1 month in advance and reserve a certain timeframe. You also have to pay 60€. If you want to work here, you need to know German and you have to request a new residence permit every half a year. Without a job or without another who person covers your social insurances, you just can't even stay for very long here. It's similar in other countries. I travel alot and it's a pain in the ass.

To have this freedom is a gift. And what makes you so sure that we wouldn't import any other middle easterner, if we leave the EU? It would cripple our trade relations and would fugg our personal freedoms.

Member we voted against any treaty with Ukraine in a referendum?

wsj.com/articles/eu-clarifies-ukraine-pacts-terms-to-appease-dutch-1481832653

user remembers. Fuck the EU. Let it fucking die.

>actual working-class people who have been screwed over by it
lol but i'm a working class person and everyone i know likes the eu
pretty much no one except old people in isolated villages dislike the eu

very happy i will have the option to remain an eu citizen in a country that will not be a member state

best of both worlds desu

>if you oppose our doubleplusgood project you must be a doubleplusungoodthinker who lives in a hovel

yawn, it's late, Durao Barroso, you should go to bed.

>buzzwords
>meme people
great arguments and exquisite counter-examples, now please go to bed abuelo

It's not easy to fix to be honest. But I hope we will tackle this. In Germany we have big differences too, but it gets slowly better. I'm glad to spend monis and help other countries in the union. In the end it will benefit the EU.

Member we also voted against the treaty of Lisbon?
>EU
>totally democratic

I care only about the money i hate Germans and i will never be friend with them. Those cu-cks soon will be gone at least. I live only for revange and i wait for polish Hitler.

See, you ARE pretty dumb.
You accept all the baggage that comes with the EU, for a few personal freedoms (more like a few inconveniences being removed),
when you could have the same "freedoms" via other means (treaties, deals etc.).
You are the loser in the EU if you don't do large-scale trading, and shit on everything but profit.

Every one of your posts in this thread is literal Newspeak. Orwell would be so proud.

...

>all the baggage
like what?

i like how you think mentioning a 12th grade book makes you smart lol

As long as the money stays in the EU it doesn't matter Kevin. Also, you can just move to Spain, if you would feel better for the monis.

he doesn't want to because he's from some protestant state

Is there even any good EU countries to visit or live in temporarily?

I have an EU passport, but I've never used it.

>lel imma try hard and shill for the EU haha I'm sure that will prevent them from putting another nail in my country's coffin with new austerity measures bet you don't feel so clever now eh

>he's anti-austerity
lmao gtfo you fucking podemita

>when you could have the same "freedoms" via other means (treaties, deals etc.).

Something being theoreticaly possibly doesn't mean it is practicaly feasible.

there's always finland

>10 years later
>h-heh I'm sure tightening our belts a little more won't hurt, eh? now time to take the horse-and-buggy and go buy some mud pies, hail Europa!

Well, I have been supporting the EU project ever since its beginning both on the international and national levels and I am very glad over what we have managed to achieve in such a short time considering that our continent not so long ago witnessed one of the bloodiest conflicts known to the human kind. Too bad that the future does not look equally bright...

I don't know about you, but I'm not about to compromise national autonomy for the sake of convenience. Sure, the EU is great for France, Germany and Benelux but other countries suffer from it.

>thi, yo voto por los venethuelanoth, elloth noth van a thalbar!
it's embarrassing to read your posts tbqh

>current year +1
>EU

>sudaca memes

Portugal confirmed for LatAm shithole-tier

oh no, it's another "my country is so shit i have to make fun of my neighbor to make myself feel good about my shitty life again"
get a job you fucking esquerdito de merda

why dont the eu give membership to russia or turkey or some balkan countries?

But we do?

Federalization of European Governments, where single countries (And this in turn means you) have less and less means of actual democracy.
An abstruse opaque system where laws which are to be passed, are passed, if the actual people being governed want to or not.
Inefficiency in the bureaucratic System.
Corrupt lawmakers.
Etc.

>As long as the money stays in the EU it doesn't matter
Again, you show your stupidity.
Maybe read some economy books.

>These things are only possible with the EU
Why? There is no reason.
As long as a treaty is profitable for both parties, it is a possibility.
You must be brainwashed to think that treaties aren't possible without a "EU".
Look at european countries that aren't in the EU.
Anyway, enjoy your German produced food tomorrow.
I am sure some fat piece of shit here profited from it, while finding some dumb "EU" way to evade taxes.

The funny thing is that for the last four or five posts you've been assuming I'm a podemita. Really shows the breadth of your intellectual horizons.

only the catholic balkans

you're anti-austerity which is leftist shit anyway
it really doesn't matter if your a podemita or not because you're still a leftist shit

I'm not even part of Europe and I'm really fond of the idea.

Please accept Argentina into the EU.

>you're anti-austerity which is leftist shit anyway

The EU unironically makes people stupid enough to believe this.

>hurr durr leftist
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>Federalization of European Governments, where single countries (And this in turn means you) have less and less means of actual democracy.
who cares. germany is a federal republic and no one complains about muh regionalisms anymore
>An abstruse opaque system where laws which are to be passed, are passed, if the actual people being governed want to or not.
same as above
>Inefficiency in the bureaucratic System.
>Corrupt lawmakers.
how are any of these specific to the way the eu is build? this is a problem in any country, eu or not

Hope it doesn't mess up, I need somewhere to go if Brexit fucks this country up the arse.

>leftist


You should remove yourself.

>he doesn't even know basic economic theory
abuelo, it's time for bed

You can come here :3

EU is a Roman Catholic organization, no heretics allowed

it won't get fucked up, the uk is strong enough. scotland will probably leave tho but who cares

>let me wave my hands real hard and pretend QE doesn't exist or is "leftist bullshit"

Yeah, your Euro-magic doesn't work here.

>Again, you show your stupidity
>Maybe read some economy books
These are your facts?

You can't do this with treaties. There is not a single example with another country. And even then, would it not be the same as staying in the EU? You are just closeminded. I'm just a realistic person. Let's wait how the UK independence works out. You value things only when they are gone and not taken for granted anymore.

you do know where that money comes from right? lol

Ahem.

Also Greece is Balkan.

>denmark BIG

>you do know where that money comes from right? lol

You were just brainwashed into believing devaluation is not an option because that would break the myth of the inevitability of the Euro and hence the EU.

This may have been open to debate at one point, but right now, comparing the USA's QE strategy and European austerity, it's clear that QE won by a long shot as an effective method of getting out of the recession.

But yeah, keep on waving that starry blue flag, if you can even afford one at this point.

i forgot about you guys
greece is a special snowflake tho

pay denbs

>pay denbs
we aren't gonna make it at this rate, Durao. Next stop: PTExit and SPExit.

if we both ever leave i unironically think we should stick together tbqh

lol keep dreaming you cunt

>how are any of these specific to the way the eu is build?
to put it in simple terms for you:
less influence over governers -> more likely to get fucked over (for their profit)

>These are your facts?
Why are you asking a question?
Money doesn't equal actual value.

>There is not a single example with another country
>What is Norway?
>What is Switzerland?
>What is every other Nation we are trading with, or are having deals with.
What do you think the purpose of TTIP and such is?
It's not much different from the EU.
Simply put: Some form of council decides over common rules and standards, by which you in turn are governed.

The EU needs an army.

Of course. We have more in common than we do with places like