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>le free college meme
Though I guess you're getting at Englishmen shooting themselves in the foot.

It's not free here. It's 2k a year, which is still much better than Englel. And we are one of the more expensive countries in the EU I think

Is this university or primary-secondary school fees?

it's not free in the university, it's like 1,3k

wow, that's a fortune in a country like portugal

guess our 2k aint that bad after all

it is free to study in Scotland if you wanted to.
Read the map

you know, the swiss get all the benefits of EU but don't give anytthing back

This also doesn't factor in cost of living. With cost of living, it costs pretty much the same for me to study in Finland, Germany, or Iceland vs. stay put in the US, even though tuition is free for Americans studying in Europe. And I'd have a harder time landing a job.

Also the price on the box in the US is never what you actually pay. Especially if you're poor.

>free

Did the buildings just materialize out of thin air?

Do they magically have electricity and water and Internet?

Are the professors working for janny's wages?

>Wanting a Scottish education.

I'd rather pay for quality than eat shit for free.

But our universities are actually good, soooooo

>but don't give anytthing back
what do you mean, all of the EU millionaires get to hide their money there

You know what they mean, dingus

Both Switzerland and Norway pay money to the EU

You are most expensive one. Only in UK and Netherlands you pay for college as European in other countries its either for free or you get paid for attending

Hmm. That's crazy.

But I'm happy about that, even as a student. I don't want to fund students who take 6 years to get their degree in Celtic languages and what have you.

Your government still pays most of it tho, i think price per semester is like 10k € students pay 2

My sister does European Studies in Netherlands

True, I heard the same. It's good that the government makes it affordable, but at the same time expensive enough to dissuade people from taking too long to get their degrees. It's fair.

Small price to pay for freedom.

What uni btw?

not sure somewhere in Haag i think, tho she had to move to Rotterdam because they had issues with housing (Turk owner kept turning off electricity and shit) and couldnt find house in the city, apparently there is 1 000 000 people per square meter

In Spain is not free.

don't think you'll find anyone who will defend tuition fees here

it's bullshit and nobody's happen about it desu

Ah, that's HBO study, a tier below uni.

>Rotterdam

My city, I'll look out for a qt speaking Slovak

this

I can't even think of a single prestigious university that's not British or American so we still win.

You lose because the tuition rate in your shitty country is 9K for every uni, even the shitty ones (which the vast majority of your unis are)

>continental european universities

Into the trash.

Just like how it costs money to drive on your roads right? They don't materialize out of thin air either.

You can just get a student loan, and you don't have to pay it back until you're earning enough money.

Not a terrible deal.

> I don't want to fund students who take 6 years to get their degree in Celtic languages

Isn't paid for though.

First of all, you get a set number of state financed years and if you exhaust it, you are done.

And if you aren't proceeding at least half the pace you are supposed to, or you are in the bottom 30% of the students, you have to pay.

Also most dumb, unnecessary humanistic shits either have an extremely low number of allowed students per year or they are entirely pay-only, although there are more things that should be cut, I admit.

Our education is far from perfect, but this isn't a bad system.

Also if you finish your studies and don't work in Hungary a set number of years at least in the x years following your graduation, you'll have to pay it all back.

I will defend free higher tier education with reasonable limitations, because Hungarians lived under socialism for fairly long and were an agrarian society before that, so families couldn't afford to support students like in the Netherlands, where the people are traditionally wealthy.

Credit given where credit is due, you have the best gender studies' majors in the world.

It's not free here.
It's around 2-7k€ per year, depends on your parents' income

Jokes on you, the military can pay for your tuition!

>9k a year for tuition
>not a bad deal

don't become a business man

They make money for our education system and dissuade people from just fucking around at uni (with varying success, admittedly).

it's the other way around.
The swiss and Norgayians get to pay all the money EU wants them to pay and have to accept all retarded regulations EU forces on them but they cannot vote in any of the matter because they're not a member.

I want everybody who wants to go to university and is smart enough to go, to be able to go. At 2k a year and with student loans with extremely low interest rates, that is possible.

Roads require upkeep, idiot, that doesn't just happen.

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>Free

The way I see it, there are actually two different type of universities in the UK.

There are the big, famous top tier unis, the whole world is flocking to and you have mediocre ones that aren't at all different from what we have here, and we can beat a University of Newcastle and ones like that at least.

The same way, your lower tier education is extremely polarized too. Britain has a more differentiating system, just like the USA, and since you were the victors of every major war, you are the leaders of the world and the universities reflect that.

But the British society is way less egalitarian than the average European and there's a huge gap between the elite and the common people.

Yes, that's a good system too.

That money is more like a tax really, you only pay it back when you earn over a certain amount and they take a percentage of your wages every month.

If you lose your job or whatever you don't pay and no one's coming to break your knees over the debt.

Stupid English hahahhahahahhahahahahga

You pay back 9% of everything you earn over £21,000. Costs more than what you have to pay in most of the EU but not unreasonable to pay back, and you get a better education, assuming you go to a decent university and don't fritter it on a masters in hairdressing theory or something ridiculous like that.

She speaks Englisn and learning dutch so you prolly wont hear her speak slovak tho

>Living in Poland

>not living in Poland

Paid tuition fees here in Aus, Western Australia, roughly $1000 AUD per unit (typically around $8k a year, depends on the course). But that's only really for non-citizens, Citizens can apply for a HECS- debt and not pay anything until later in life when they're earning a decent wage.

This. Also, lots of Swiss people leave their money in our supermarkets.

>Englishmen shooting themselves in the foot

Guns are illegal in England, impossible.

Why would anyone go to Scotland to study though?

Bad meme.

we only pay it back when we can afford it though. it's a better solution IMO

Because it's free

>scottish students get free education in either Scotland or England
>English students can't study in Scotland
>muh English oppresion

Ah yes, I forget that those going to uni have no idea that work is a thing and that you get paid for doing it.

If you wanna study in British unis, you can do your undegrad for free in the good Scottish unis (i.e. Edinburgh/St Andrews/Glasgow) and then if you wanna do postgrad as well you can easily go into Oxbridge/Imperial/LSE for your PhD if you want the "name"

British uni grads
>make 40k starting(GBP)
>tons of jobs
>4.6% unemployment(full employment)
>usually working at fortune 500 companies

Scottish uni grads
>40% unemployment rate
>35% heroine addiction rate
>65% alcoholism rate
>largest employer is the orange soft drink factory paying minimum wage

In Spain edumacations is el retardo so it better be libre

Edinburgh uni is one of the best.

It's only free for Scottish people.

EU btfo out of the water

smart fucker
>Russia Today UK
why is this a thing?

1,3k per year isn't too bad.

If you're poor you get a scolarship.

I went to graduate school in Tallinn, Estonia. It was 1000 euro per semester.

Dunno, but its one of the better outlets for news

Nah, its free for EU citizens minus English, Welsh and Northern irish iirc. (Maybe Norn Ire. gets reduced fees)

hahahahha

How common are student loans in the UK minus Scotland? At one time I wanted to attend Aberystwyth, but it was way to costly

>too
Damned keyboard

Tuition is technically free here, but over the last 10 years they've upped the "student contribution" (allegedly for "student services") to something like €3000.

I don't know what you mean... if you go to uni outside of scotland in the UK, almost everyone takes out a loan with the student loans company

>almost everyone takes out a loan with the student loans company
That's what I wanted to know. So you are in the same boat as us with the loan debt.

Yes, pretty much, although i dont think its quite as bad yet. Yet being the operative word, I think they want to increase fees again
Interest is capped at inflation, debt is written off after 25 years, you only pay back gradually increasing amounts based on earnings

I'm off to Scotland lads what do I study

>So you are in the same boat as us with the loan debt.

Sort of, but the repayments are much more lenient. Student Loans are done as a % above a certain wage (I think it starts at 8% for money earned above 21k) and loans don't effect credit score.

30-ish £ a week to fly from Poland to England??

Depending on the time of year it's possible.

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The interest is capped the moment you sign your life away. I don't know about it being written off after an amount of years, that's a very good question. I'll look into that.
>you only pay back gradually increasing amounts based on earnings.
Now that's a good system.

>tfw going to a uni with 40k tuition per year

cont.

After graduation, you are given a 90 day grace period. After that you get a $400+ bill in the mail. It's absurd, nobody can afford to pay that straight out of university. You can get the payment deferred for one year, that's what I did. I think it's sad that my rent and my loan bills are the same. fuck me.

Ours is essentially a tax on graduates in all but name. Every financial year I get a letter saying how much was added on in interest, how much I paid back and how much is left. Doesn't really go any further than that.

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nice trips

Edinburgh is one of the best universities in the world.

Yepper! St. Andrews in a fine university also. I had the privilege in going to a conference there. Highly recommend

>le buttmad seppo
yes good goy, le socialism boogeyman is bad
enjoy your 350k tuition fees that you will never stop paying

Visiting during a conference is no basis of determining the fineness of a university.

I agree that college can certainly be cheaper, but tuition fees on their own aren't the issue people make them out to be.

>Visiting during a conference is no basis of determining the fineness of a university.
Believe it or not, but conferences are very important in academia.

I have achieved complete and true enlightenment

american students abroad require european teachers to slow down to the point it feels like a high school class
we dont pay for the diploma here, we pay for the class

Not even meem'ing, but what's with you guys and your obsession with Apple products?

>Visiting friend in Memedon
>Meet him after class
>Literally EVERYONE there has an ipad or a macbook for studying
>EVERY. SINGLE. CLASS uses standardized Apple computers
>Computer lab and library is just a row of 2005 Macs
>Think it's just a weird coincidence
>Now we're in Manchester
>Picking up friend from class
>Got there early, so fucking around in halls
>Go to the library
>Macs everywhere, and they're all from 2005

Literally why?

The UK is literally just a US puppet that we use to export goods to now.

It wasn't even the use of Apple products that got me. It was the fact that the classrooms all used modern, 2010-ish Macs, and the libraries and computer labs all used brick Macs that must've weighed 20 pounds each. Like one part of the school progressed, while the other half of the school just got lost in some sot of weird time stasis.

Same for the school in Manchester too.

Just the darnedest thing.

That is because the American school system dumb students down as opposed to pushing them succeed. My cousin is in high school right now and she says that if you are smart and truly advance yourself, the other students physically threaten you and constantly call you a nerd. Almost like being smart is wrong. Then again look at our culture of ignorance.
I was lucky enough to go to a private school where that disease did not influence us. I am in the second year of my Ph.D atm.

>she says that if you are smart and truly advance yourself, the other students physically threaten you and constantly call you a nerd

Kek. That's what she gets for going to a shitty nonselective public high school.