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>In party political terms, Fianna Fáil voters were easily the most strongly in favour of retaining the amendment. Labour voters, at 27 per cent, were the strongest supporters of wide access to abortion.

>not being Fianna Fáil
With Bertie back at the helm, that leftist cunt Martin will be sent to the Gulags in Leitrim.

>Labour
Anyone who gave first preference to a party other that FF, FG or Renua should be deported to Cuba, North Korea or Laos.

Also, FF voters is the best cross-section of normal people in the country, so it's heartening that they're anti-child murder.

Are any of the big parties like SF, FF and FG anti-immigration?

>tfw I love SF's Brits out policy but hate their blacks in policy

No.

Literally not a single one.

Eurocucks Fine Gael are massively pro-immigration, except for Leo Varadkar, who hates anyone not from D4.

fuck thermoman

Fuck sake. Is there any point in voting for a smaller party? They'd never get in

Let them build. AfD was founded in 2013

>implying their "blacks in" policy is close to the only thing wrong with Sinn Féin

But all the smaller parties at the moment are SJW lefties.

>that one seonín

The Progressive Democrats were unironically the best party in Ireland.
>didn't want fag marriage
>doesn't like immigrants
>doesn't like federal EU
>doesn't like abortion
McDowell needs to set the party back up.

>PD's
I agree with you wholeheartedly. They were finished before I got to vote for them.

>tfw will never get to vote for the most based party in Irish history

>pick the most socialist sounding lefty name
>turns out to be the most economically libertarian
What a PR disaster

If they called themselves Conservatives or Christian Democrats, nobody would've voted for them.

The only problem was not marketing their views better.

>The only problem was not marketing their views better.
No. Irish people are inherently leftist. When the government fucks up in the US, people demand less government, when our government fucks up, people demand more different government, for some reason. There's not a single party in our country that thinks the government should have less power.

Having a name that sounds like any other of our dozens of lefty parties hardly helped either

>Irish people are inherently leftist
Yeah, that explains why being gay was a crime until 1996, you could legally rape your wife, and how abortion is still a criminal act.

Fuck off back to YouTube with your "muh leftist" butthurt.

>why being gay was a crime until 1996
And now we're the first country in the world to legalise fag "marriage" by popular referendum
>you could legally rape your wife
I don't understand what this has to do with leftist politics, but it is, thankfully, no longer the case.
>how abortion is still a criminal act.
Long may that continue.

Regardless, none of the above is anything to do with leftism, unless you learned about politics on Youtube. Irish people generally favour a bloated health service, social welfare, expansive employee rights, trade unions, and high corporation tax.

Does Ireland being a neutral country contribute towards leftism?

Feels like all the neutral countries in Europe have never had any backbone at all, so it'd be understandable why they'd accept refugees with no real backlash.

>Irish people generally favour a bloated health service
No, they desire one that works. Only a fucking moron thinks the American style is a good idea.
>social welfare
Because there's literally nothing wrong with helping your fellow Irishman. Only a Paki or a Yank thinks otherwise.
>expansive employee rights
Source?
>trade unions
The fucking Blueshirts were in favour of this, they wanted employers and employees to meet every year and settle wages. That's not leftist, that's corporatist.
>and high corporation tax.
No they don't. Otherwise our corp tax wouldn't be 12.5%

>Irish people generally favour a bloated health service
>No, they desire one that works. Only a fucking moron thinks the American style is a good idea.
>social welfare
>Because there's literally nothing wrong with helping your fellow Irishman. Only a Paki or a Yank thinks otherwise.

So, you're a leftist? I'm not getting your angle. >Leftists are bad, but their policies are great

Switzerland banned minarets by popular vote and has the least strict gun laws in the west. So I'd wager no

>social welfare
>Because there's literally nothing wrong with helping your fellow Irishman. Only a Paki or a Yank thinks otherwise.
t. has never read a book on economics and is completely oblivious to the thoroughly detrimental social effects of social welfare

>leftist?
Welfare and a functioning health service isn't leftist, my ANCAP friend.

I'm doing a BA in Economics, cunto. Try again.

>doing a course in economics
>thinks social welfare is good in any regard
It's literally babby's first economic lesson to learn that the government handing out money to those who don't earn by taxing those who do is detrimental to economic growth unless the government pursues rigorous borrowing, which in itself will lead to bad effects on the economy down the line

>ANCAP
Well, I'm not, so if you're going to use an ad hominem argument, please make it an accurate one at least.
>Welfare and a functioning health service isn't leftist
Those are both objectively leftist. 'Left' and 'right' aren't synonyms for 'good' and 'bad'.

>BA in Economics
>Not a Bsc
You're obviously not doing very well at it, anyway.

>there's only one form of welfare
Investment in education definitely doesn't slow growth. It's the sole reason we're not some backwater fucking shithole.

The people who oppose welfare are retards who think they're going to be the next Carnegie or Rockefeller.

>if you're going to use an ad hominem argument
>call someone a leftist, surprised when they mock you back
Nice victim complex, what's the market rate for that?
>Those are both objectively leftist
>every government in the western world is economically left
Alri
>calling social science a "science"
Kek

>no leftist is ever getting me
;DD:D

Móra na maidine daoibh buachaillí

>every government in the western world is economically left
No. Some governments have lower welfare rates, with more prohibitive requirements, and their broader economic policies favour low personal and corporate taxation and fewer regulations.

You're far too quick to go to black-and-white thinking. Just because a government has some mildly leftist policies does not mean it's overall leftist, any more than the reverse. Is Cuba right wing now that people are allowed to own a small business?

I mean, are you seriously suggesting that taking earned money from one party, raised by taxation, and redistributing it to parties who have no earned income as a form of subsistence is not a left-wing policy?

Maidin mhaith. An bhfuil tú sa Tuaisceart?

>Investment in education definitely doesn't slow growth.
>government subsidies education
>degrees become worth less and less
>now you have to have full college education to even have a hope of getting a low skilled job
>meanwhile the government is spending thousands on retards who pursue art or women's studies degrees
>or worse yet pays for lads who drop out half a year later
>public education is a joke with worthless teachers
>private schools are getting saddled with regulations making them indistinguishable to public schools
>rate to pass has to be constantly shifted in order to make it not look like a catastrophe
Wew it's a good thing we're not some backwater shithole though

>>degrees become worth less and less
Ah yes because Dublin had a highly skilled workforce in the 1960s, we weren't poor at all. We didn't attract Apple in the 1980s following the implementation of education subsidies 20 years earlier, as the people who were educated were now considered more highly skilled.

Most people don't pursue "women's studies" or "art", and I don't think them dropping out is at all a reason to scrap the entire thing.

The DUP are the best part in Ireland desu.

>unironically being anti-abortion

i shig a dig dig

I support abortion for those born 9 months after Bonfire Night :)

maidin mhaith

>tuaisceart
is linne Inish Eoghain m'bhuachaill
tá sé an talamh thoir thuaidh ar an oileán

>maidin mhaith
Bore da

sut wyt ti

Ardderchog

figs'd (sorry kernow lad)

>Galicia

they wuz celts and sheeiiiit

>Brittany
Having visited there many times (very nice part of the country), they do seem to be quite attached to their Celtic heritage - even if they are sometimes unsure how to express it.

They have one of the most prominent Gaelic football scenes outside of Ireland, if that counts for anything.

>no cumbria

Cumbric died a long time ago lad

Brittany does seem nice

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Doing a think, lads.

don't particularly care about the contents of that article to be honest, as long as there isn't some agenda behind it

With the Irish Times there is almost always an agenda. It is essentially the Irish version of The Guardian (although it hasn't quite reached Guardian-levels of leftism just yet though).

kek

based Gerry tbqh

NEED a souriya gf

are you that tankie?

Away back tae britain with ye

Classic behaviour of the taig

>you could legally rape your wife
proofs?

>tfw no average irish gf

fuck off anglo-jewess whore
no chipa for you

we need unification so the unionists can save us from ourselves

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shut up ye dirty little tinker
you're probably not even catholic

so what if i amnt
im only one person anyway, you dont have to call me "ye"

Mate of mine fingered her outside an underage disco in Carlow once

>Swiss-American isn't even Catholic


About as Irish as the Nigerian toilet attendant in Coppers

>country of similar size to Ireland
>achieved independence over 2 decades after Ireland
>mainly desert with few natural resources
>surrounded by hostile nations

Yet

>won multiple wars when outnumbered and surrounded
>has one of the most modern militaries in the world
>possesses a highly advanced nuclear arsenal

What are we doing wrong that Israel is going right?

>so what if i amnt

...

masters of subversion get the greatest power in the world on their side
not really a surprise

They have the US giving them enough fucking weapons to turn Egypt into Libya.

>nuclear arsenal
You can thank the French for that, although somehow I doubt the French would be too happy about us having a nuclear stockpile when we're like 45 minutes from them.

Much of the foundations for Israel's current status was laid down in the 1947-1967 period when it was France, not the USA, who were their main ally.

That said, were Ireland in a similar geopolitical situation to Israel, I wonder whether we could exploit our relationship with the USA for similar gain?

We're not subsidised by the US

great post

nah I reckon we'd get proper rolled if we were israel
theres no way an Irish state could organise the defence of their nation like the israelis did

>What are we doing wrong that Israel is going right?
They have the support of Belfast loyalists. It makes all the difference so it does.

>That said, were Ireland in a similar geopolitical situation to Israel, I wonder whether we could exploit our relationship with the USA for similar gain?
Our greatest mistake was not joining ww2 when the US got attacked. Congress had a motion to pressure Britain into giving us the North but it was defeated and the most common excuse (I think) was because we didn't join the Second World War.

Had we signed up, we could've gotten a fuck ton of money from the US and probably got the North back. Oh and we'd have had an actual military.

Right now our best move, if we ever want the North back, is to sign up to a military alliance with the EU or US once the Brits fuck off.

Neutrality is great and all but it's completely pointless if you don't have the size or strength to protect yourself.

Hibernian diaspora aren't as powerful as evangelicals and zionists/ the Israel lobby in the US who believed supporting the Jews and reinstating them in their homeland and defending them at all costs would bring about the Second Coming of Christ

we're just not as Jewish as the Jews

>theres no way an Irish state could organise the defence of their nation like the israelis did
True. The ability of the Israelis to defend their state repeatedly against overwhelming odds is something I don't think we could ever achieve even with military aid. Israel's win in the 1948 Arab-Israeli war (only one year after independence) alone is something that defies belief.

>Congress had a motion to pressure Britain into giving us the North
As nice as that would be, it would have been a recipe for a civil war at the time.

Like theres Irish american communities that are really big on their heritage but I think the average Irish american just sees themselves as a white.
The Jews have much stronger ties to their group

>Congress had a motion to pressure Britain into giving us the North
Sauce? I don't want to believe famine dodgers are so powerful.

Unification is a recipe for civil war at any time you fucking limp wristed faggot.

I read it before, I'll see if I can dig the link up again.

think again Billy, The Irish Are The Most Powerful Race In The World

The Irish diaspora has the potential to be as influential as the Jews (if not moreso due to numbers), but the motivation simply doesn't exist. The threat of your ancestral homeland being overrun by Arabs and your ethnic brothers being slaughtered serves as a unifying motivational factor that (thankfully) doesn't exist for the Irish people. That said, Dev was able to acquire sizable funds from America for the War of Independence, which shows that the potential is there in a time of need.

>Unification is a recipe for civil war at any time you fucking limp wristed faggot.
Calm it down, user. In the 1940's, given Unionist supremacy in the North, any potential civil conflict resulting from forced unification would have been considerably more messy than it would be now for example.

It's probably for the best it didn't go through, watching stay-at-homes being curbstomped by the lads coming back from the war would have been ugly.

>The threat of your ancestral homeland being overrun by Arabs and your ethnic brothers being slaughtered serves as a unifying motivational factor that (thankfully) doesn't exist for the Irish people
Wait a few years

all me

>They have the US giving them enough fucking weapons to turn Egypt into Libya.
The US has been pumping money into the Iraqi armed forces for years now, yet that doesn't seem to make them any more competent at defeating the Islamic State.

While I understand what you're getting at, such a situation wouldn't even be remotely comparable to the situation Israel has found itself in since the foundation of their state.

>his unabashed paedophilia has infiltrated the sacred Irish shores

pretty sure we had more lads fighting in WWII than you did

The Iraqis are fucking Arabs, they're completely and utterly incompetent. The thing about the Israelis is, they use F-16s to flatten insurgents. If Iraq tried it, they'd be brought up on war crimes.

You should be deported to Britain where you belong ye shoneen cunt

OHHHHHH goodbye to the port and brandy, to the vodka and the stag

to the smithwick, and the harpic, the bottle, draft & keg

>The US has been pumping money into the Iraqi armed forces for years now, yet that doesn't seem to make them any more competent at defeating the Islamic State.
That's because the US doesn't want to defeat ISIS until Assad is gone. Notice how they only bomb them when they're close to the "moderate" rebels or the kurds. Sure the US has technically been funding ISIS through Saudi Arabia

>>Swiss-American isn't even Catholic
Source?

They also managed to revive their language.

Also I've missed the last few threads, is that you frogweeb?

>sinn fein

>The Iraqis are fucking Arabs, they're completely and utterly incompetent
I use a very simple metric to evaluate whether a military is competent or not.

Any army that I see celebrating by shooting in the air are not to be held in high esteem.

>Ireland apparently ranks 3rd for global stock exchanges
I'd have thought the US, UK, Japs, Singapore would've -at least- been ahead of us.

>Sure the US has technically been funding ISIS through Saudi Arabia
wew

>irish women

>The thing about the Israelis is, they use F-16s to flatten insurgents. If Iraq tried it, they'd be brought up on war crimes.
What are you basing this on?

Not that Iraq even has a proper air force any more.

>That's because the US doesn't want to defeat ISIS until Assad is gone
If the US goal is to not eradicate ISIS in order to keep Assad from focusing solely on internal Syrian rebels, defeating ISIS in Iraq without eradicating them would make a lot more sense because ISIS would naturally retreat into their remaining strongholds in Syria. In fact, that was standard Iraqi army policy when surrounding ISIS-held towns; leave a corridor for ISIS to escape westwards.

Iranian pressure (the Iranians support Assad) convinced Iraq do abandon this policy with Mosul though, hence the current clusterfuck there.

>Also I've missed the last few threads, is that you frogweeb?
Aye - arrived back home on Monday.

>Swiss-American isn't even Catholic
No sauce but he's one of those varg pagan twits.

Get off your proxy already cunt