I guess GoT was successful enough to make the money men want to adapt more fantasy.
Do you think it'll be worse than D&D's GoT? Is high fantasy more risky to put in TV series format than low fantasy? How are they going to find a budget to CG all those one power scenes? Even if they churn out a season per book, that's 14 seasons, so at they very minimum 14 years, how are they going to deal with the young actors ageing? Would a season per book even cover enough?
Who's your favorite character and who would cast as them?
Wyatt Sanchez
>Wheel of Time Kek
Joseph Lewis
There's no need to do one season per book. 7 and 8 are companions to 6 and 10 is a companion to 9. Also the first few books aren't even canon, they're full of irregular shit that should be suppressed such as Verin delving retarded Ogier in a stedding and tons of other stuff that was not fully sorted out until around book 4.
Rumor has it that Jason Denzel of Dragonmount has been appointed as a producer of the new series.
There is no way to depict channeling onscreen from the point of view of channelers so all channeler POVs must be excised.
This won't even happen and if it does it will be canceled almost immediately so there's no reason to even speculate.
William Torres
>Do you think it'll be worse than D&D's GoT? depends on who adapts it. if it's showtime or equivalent, it should be decent. if network tv, it will probably be awful
>Is high fantasy more risky to put in TV series format than low fantasy? probably. people like the grittiness of GoT, but bear in mind WoT is not tolkien with elves and dwarves and dragons and shit
>How are they going to find a budget to CG all those one power scenes? yeah... this is going to be problematic. see above about cable vs. network tv
>Even if they churn out a season per book, that's 14 seasons, so at they very minimum 14 years, how are they going to deal with the young actors ageing? If I were set this task, I would storyboard all 14 books and selectively cut wide swathes of content and subplots. plan an initial season, then semi plan for 3 more to cover the entire story. we don't need a whole season of elayne bathing, cursing, drinking goat's milk and running andoran internal affairs. same goes for everything perrin does, the sea folk content could be cut entirely, white tower civil war could be massively condensed, etc.
>Would a season per book even cover enough? one season per book would be too slow. see above
Anthony Ross
>it's a Fain nails a myrddraal to a wall through where its eyes should be episode >it's a Mat crushes a guy's lungs with a quarterstaff stab then crushes another guy's trachea and they collapse on each other and scrape their feet across the floor until their death rattles come episode >it's a merchant says howdy at a watering hole and Rand beheads her and her guard then uses the power to make their headless bodies bow to him episode >it's a front rank of the Shaido exploding episode
Luis Myers
To be fair the merchant and her guards were darkfriends, Rand notes afterwards there was a man he killed that he didn't realise was there initially, the reader is supposed to connect this to the unnoticeable assassins when they are properly introduced later on.
Aiden Stewart
Gray man/darkfriendship aside, puppeteering headless corpses to bow down post-murder spree was a little strange
Luke Sullivan
>how are they going to deal with the young actors ageing Honestly there are barerly any child characters and characters like Rand showing signs of physically aging would be good for the character
Lincoln Green
he was pretty new to Saidin and the taint messed with him pretty hard in the early days
Gavin Lopez
Really, that scene just made me wonder what robert jordan was up to in vietnam
Ayden Reyes
reading lengthy one power descriptions made me wonder what RJ was up to with LSD
Easton Cruz
I just hope the trollocs don't look too fake.
Alexander Cox
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James Morales
I just hope they don't make Tuon unattractive. Based Mat kinda got the short end of the stick compared to Rand and Perrin.
Noah Gonzalez
Perrin got a slanteye with a huge nose and Tuon is a coal-black nigger, user.
Samuel Ward
I'm delighted that mainstream television will finally be making a show for people on the autism spectrum
Christian Harris
she was fucking fat in deadpool you could see her love handles spilling from her sides when she was in the x-man onepiece suit.
Levi Moore
A Memory of Light, the final Wheel of Time novel, sold 50,000,000 copies in the USA alone. This is a massively popular series which is already mainstream.
Nolan Perry
It's still some of the most autistic anti-literature I've ever encountered
Chase Nelson
I'm not sure what autism has to do with the Wheel of Time series. Could you explain the connection in greater detail?
Michael Ramirez
why don't you post in threads about things you like instead of shitposting in threads about things you don't?
Anthony Allen
Nynaeve tugged her braid
Hudson Bennett
Wheel of Time and Kingkiller Chronicle adaptations.
Goodbye Fantasy TV renaissance.
Colton Stewart
I'd like to know what Red Eagle Entertainment got for the rights. They bought them back when fantasy TV was a joke and made their ashcan pilot in the GoT era.
Christopher Stewart
>user, why don't you like Nynaeve? She's not that annoying.
Brayden Flores
>every character in the series cannot adequately understand anyone else, constantly struggling to comprehend even the most basic of non-direct communication, and often express deep frustration and rage at the seemingly "veiled" intentions of others >most characters engaging in ritualistic behavioural tics >unwillingness to leave anything to the imagination, obsessive description of unnecessary and tangential details (scrollwork of the bodice of dresses, the exact colours and styles of each carpet in every hallway, the intricacies of an unnecessarily complex magic system) >characters constantly overwhelmed by loud noises and/or bright lights
Pretty autistic if you ask me
>muh hugbox
Asher Carter
>50,000,000 in the USA Are you implying that almost 1 in 6 Anericans owns a copy of this book? Your facts are wrong.
Jackson Ward
No, I'm stating the solid fact that A Memory of Light sold 50,000,000 copies in the USA alone. That accounts for collectors purchasing multiple copies, fans purchasing multiple versions across hardcover, paperback, and ebook, and retailer stocking. Fifty million copies were sold, you stupid asshole. That's a fact.
Cooper Gonzalez
Holy fucking Freudian projection. Screencapped for deployment in actual WoT TV threads. This is golden.
Hunter Parker
>being this delusional and butthurt Sanderson pls go. You suck.
Anthony Martinez
>every character in the series cannot adequately understand anyone else, constantly struggling to comprehend even the most basic of non-direct communication, and often express deep frustration and rage at the seemingly "veiled" intentions of others characters from different backgrounds and nations have trouble dealing with each others habits and traditions, just like IRL. >most characters engaging in ritualistic behavioural tics Real people bite their nails, pick at scabs, and other stuff like that too. Besides, I don't see who you mean aside from Nynaeve and her braid and Rand and his list of women names. >unwillingness to leave anything to the imagination, obsessive description of unnecessary and tangential details (scrollwork of the bodice of dresses, the exact colours and styles of each carpet in every hallway, the intricacies of an unnecessarily complex magic system) The heavy descriptions of scenery and furniture serves to establish what different nations and cities look and feel like. Having ADD is on you mate. >characters constantly overwhelmed by loud noises and/or bright lights talking out of your ass on this one
>muh hugbox you're nothing but a petulant child who can't stand other people enjoying things while he wallows in his own biterness. Grow up.
Nolan Bailey
There is no fantasy TV renaissance. There was Game of Thrones and its success (which would not have existed without Robert Jordan, pic related) and that's about it. No other fantasy adaptations have succeeded.
Shannara and Legend of the Seeker do not constitute a renaissance.
Nathan Cox
>It's a Nynaeve tugs her braid episode
Henry Perez
Jesus Christ that's dumb.
Matthew Richardson
You didn't even read it you autistic neckbeard.
Kevin Rogers
>open this to read it a bit >eyes fucked when I close it
BASTARD
Ayden Reyes
It's just a totally dumb criticism. I read all of it, all the way through, thoroughly, something you didn't do for the Wheel of Time.
Kayden Walker
>something you didn't do for the Wheel of Time.
Because I'm not a fucking autistic pleb who wastes his time on fanfiction-tier verbal masturbation.
Austin Gomez
Oral tradition is amazing. I'm not surprised you can't grok it. You're very, very stupid.
Cooper Jenkins
>Oral tradition is amazing.
What the fuck are you talking about? it's not oral tradition, it's autistic porn.
Dylan Nguyen
>What the fuck are you talking about? Right, exactly.
Colton Peterson
>didn't read/view/listen to a medium >posts his opinion and criticizes the medium anyways
sound like you are in fact an autistic pleb there buddy
Caleb Collins
Silmarillion is next.
Jordan Butler
This isn't your pseudo-medieval cuckoldry stories, user, irl this comment is retarded, not witty. We have better standards than your gay knights and geeks.
Benjamin Sanchez
Except for the rant on complexity of the series, I'd say it's completely accurate. I'm surprised whoever wrote that left out the part where Faile completely shuts down a rescue mission - potentailly causing an entire village to be destroyed - so Perrin is forced to take her along so she can insult him for not helping the village enough.
Reading the series, I honestly entertained the notion that Jordan is hardcore anti-feminist, and these books were meant to be a satirical view of how terrible the world would be when women rule it.
Asher Price
Yeah, I meant it was dead before it even started.
Even if WOT is somewhat good, shit like KKC will put an end to all that.
Benjamin Perez
As someone who hasn't read WOT, I'm curious, does it have any chance of replicating the success of GOT?
Will we find ourselves dying to know what happens next?
Sebastian Lopez
im just worried about having to put up with fucking egwene all over again through a tv series desu. pic unrelated
Austin Phillips
it doesnt focus on violence and sex like GoT so it wont find a mainstream audience with normies to the same extent i reckon
Jeremiah Taylor
>does it have any chance of replicating the success of GOT?
No. It's like GoT but even more feministic, autistic and confusing. At least GoT is somewhat entertaining.
Levi Gutierrez
>people complaining about Jordan's lengthy descriptions of clothes and scenery >apparently everyone forgot Gurms endless descriptions of FOOD FOOD FOOD
what said. Although every book ends on a very highly action packed couple of chapters, so every season ending on a crazy episode could keep the hype going.
Jason Lewis
No, GoT is lightning in a bottle like Lost when it comes to being a cultural phenomena. Besides being a hugely successful show that sells subs and licenses for HBO, it's a merchandising juggernaut.
Doesn't matter how good WoT ends up being as a show, it'll always be compared to GoT and people will always bash it in favour of GoT. Also unless it gets picked up by a serious network that can pony up a lot of fucking dosh it'll never be able to do any of the things it does better than GoT like its high fantasy action sequences.
Carter Mitchell
>It's like GoT but even more feministic
>Women take over the world >They fuck it up >Constantly >For 3,000 years >4 of the last 6 books are dedicated almost entirely to how badly they fucked up and continue to fuck up >They made an overtly autistic, extremely angry tumblrina Amyrlin in the first half of the series and none of them ever considered that it might be a bad idea >It takes Odin, Thor and Tyr being reincarnated as boys to unfuck it
>Feministic
Alexander Roberts
yep. the best part is that RJ probably thought he was creating muh strong female characters but they just all come across as fucking awful people who are genuinely stupid
Justin Reyes
No, he was doing it very intentionally. They're literally basking in their own glory in an ivory tower for the better part of the series. RJ used them to demonstrate the worst of women, they seclude themselves from the world, disdain men, rarely if ever have children, refuse to acknowledge their own faults and They control men through fear, manpulation and bullying. The Aiel Wise Ones are a foil to this. They are worldly, almost all of them are married, most have one or more children, they work together with men to guide their people to the best of their ability through reason and logic, and each and every one of them was something else BEFORE they were a wise one. Amys and Aviendha were Far Dareis Mai, Bair was a Roofmistress etc.
RJ was basically calling out modern feminism on its bullshit with the Aes Sedai before modern feminism was a thing, and giving an example of what feminism should be with the Wise Ones.
Owen Edwards
>It's a Seachan training Aes Sedai episode >implying I don't want this
Levi Walker
RJ being anti SJW before it was a thing, nice
Samuel Walker
>Do you think it'll be worse than D&D's GoT? In comparison to the source material? Impossible. As something to watch and enjoy? Probably.
Matthew Adams
No, he was very much against the idea of a matriarch and goes out of his way to show what it would really be like. Through personal conversation it came from an early knowledge of how cruel women can be with unchecked authority
Aaron Jenkins
i don't see how live action WoT can work unless they have a fanboi billionaire backing them
trollocs, myrdraal, channeling etc. it's gonna require so much fucking CGI and shit
Dominic Butler
>Mydrall
throw a black cloak over a horse rider, there's your Mydraal
the rest will require some cash but is manageable
Hudson Moore
i just hope they make a faithful adaption and don't turn it into a Xena/Hercules clone like they did with the Sword of Truth/Legend of the Seeker
come to think of it, it's probably for the best that they didn't adapt SoT faithfully, all the Objectivism and hardcore rape etc. would probably cause mass strokes all over tumblr
Robert Ortiz
source it faggot
Liam Foster
Getting sick of adaptations.
Luke Collins
Are there any rumours as to what studio will be taking it on?
Really the whole show depends on budget, unless they seriously want to cut down on locations, battle scale, creatures, One Power channelling, cast etc.
Zachary Rodriguez
Way too hard to be adapted as a decent tv show, what the fuck are they thinking. They could EASILY adapt The Blade Itself and make it the next big thing instead of trying to ride the popularity of a beloved series.
Joshua Phillips
>"Look for the official announcement coming soon from a major studio." narrows down the list to what you think can be considered "major".
>The series was optioned by Universal Pictures in 2008 for film adaptations, with plans to adapt The Eye of the World as the first film. they ended up dropping it, but after GoT's success they might be reconsidering
Daniel Smith
Fantasy will always be shit unless it gets a LOTR budget.
It will probably get no name actors, but who is your dream cast?
John Thompson
Is the wheel of time series genuinely good books or just good by fantasy standards?
Lucas Baker
It's terrible even by fantasy standards. Most of its fanbase is lonely old landwhales.
Kevin Parker
It needs no-name actors simply because anyone who already has a name is probably too old to see it through. It would take a minimum of 8 years to do even a minimally accurate adaptation, nearly 15 years for a proper one, yet the story takes place over only 3 or 4 years. I really like that image you posted though >Crown of Swords >Sword hand cut off pottery.
The first book is on the lower end of average, the second book is average, and third to fifth books are fantastic. After the fifth book it starts to drop off (because the author was literally dying while he wrote it I'd guess) until Brandon Sanderson took over.
Asher Evans
If it were a movie it would be a flick, but sometimes you just want to watch a flick, you know?
Nathaniel Martin
Damn. Was hoping I'd have a new series to read. Any genuinely good fantasy series you'd suggest? (Not GoT) >inb4
Jayden Morales
WoT. It's a classic, if you haven't read it, you should, it's a hell of a lot better than ASoIaF at least. It's too mainstream for /lit/ to talk about anyway.
Brody Sanders
Lord of the Rings.
Logan Hernandez
The Farseer and Tawny Man trilogies are literally amazing.
Gabriel Parker
Black company, malazan book of the fallen, and first law trilogy
Dylan Allen
Gormenghast is a favourite of mine, check out Book of the New Sun, kind of trippy in places but well worth the effort if you like to use your imagination a lot.
>Remember reading ASOIAF back in the early 00s when it was considered obscure as hell Ironic how times have changed, isn't it?
Ryder Ross
-Depends on how it's done. It's all in the execution -No, especially not now when GoT has warmed up people to fantasy in general -They'll do as GoT.. make some scenes on a preschool play budget and some real ebin that make people forgive the cheap ones. There's also always the cut to black trick from season 1 of GoT -They won't care- -Probably if they get skilled writers in
Ethan Stewart
Farseer is great too, I'd love to see that adapted. Biggest issue with them is that the author is clearly not comfortable writing a character as masculine as Fitz. Most of the time she does fine, but sometimes she turns Ftiz into a woman out of nowhere.
Lincoln Bennett
The trilogy of the Blade by Abercrombie, give it a try.
Owen Diaz
Thanks for the suggestions fellas. I'll check these out.
Hmmm never heard of this one, is it new? Sounds pretty interesting.
Juan Gonzalez
NOOOOOOOOOO
I wanted a break from fantasy once ended but now we got 14 years of MORE fantasy!!
Nolan Green
Fantasy will be the next Capeshit
It's going to be like early 00s again but worse
Cooper Taylor
Fuck that, I want more fantasy shit, and I dont mean Game of Thrones "gritty" fantasy, I mean corny, adventurous fantasy with evil old guys throwing spells and loin cloth wearing musclehuge guys fighting monsters and gay elves. Im sick to death of how much sci fi there is, go back to fantasy, at least you dont need to completely rely entirely on CGI to sell the world and props with fantasy.
Grayson Taylor
How can Fantasy be the next capeshit if capeshit was already the next Fantasy?
Caleb Ross
I agree with this guy.
Jaxson Reyes
>implying this WoT adaption will be successful >implying even if it was they'd do a full 14 year run
Cooper Campbell
Just make all 6 Dunes as a HBO series.
Far better choice
Jonathan Jackson
>Fantasy novel >It's entirely Tolkien derivative and there's nothing original or without substance >Still somehow manages to be a best seller
Worm Ouroboros movie would be great though.
Ayden James
WoT's kinda gonna be CG heavy though, with extremly regular use of Channeling, and regular encounters with Shadowspawn, Ogier, impossible architecture, Raken and all the other magical beasts Seanchan bring along, and so on and so on
Jack Torres
What? Wheel of Time is basically as far from Tolkien as you can get while still being Fantasy and having An Ancient Evil bad guy. It's more like a derivative of Book of the New Sun, given the whole "set in the future" thing.
Nathaniel Lewis
That wheel couldn't even turn. Bravo Jordan.
Cameron Cox
>it's a damane episode
Angel Ortiz
First of all, we need a fantasy story that has characters that we care about, such as GoT and all the families and houses with different motives.
Is there any fantasy books like this? I know Dune is almost identical to GoT with its houses (me thinks GoT is based off that).
Lucas Gutierrez
>Daenerys wants to break the wheel >Wheel of time is next after GOT
Dare I say it?
Cooper Walker
>First of all, we need a fantasy story that has characters that we care about, such as GoT
You lost me.
Benjamin Harris
>It's a Mat is a whiney cunt and fucks up eeryone's plans episode. >It's a Perrin bitches about his awesome fucking powers episode. >Its a oh-so-funny Perrin and Rand both think the other is better with girls episode >It's a Rand is mopey and brooding episode >It's an Egwene flipflops between being in love with Rand and ogling every man in sight episode >It's a Nynaeve continues to bitch about the Aes Sedai while training of one completely of her own accord.
Jordan Flores
GoT isn't fantasy, it's a medieval political drama soap opera with the occasional mystical element.
And yeah, there are very few good fantasy books like this, they usually have terrible characterizations, and the conflict is shallow.