I'm watching all the MCU shit in chronological order, and I've just finished The Incredible Hulk and the first Iron Man

I'm watching all the MCU shit in chronological order, and I've just finished The Incredible Hulk and the first Iron Man.

Why are they all so boring compared to Captain America? The First Avenger was the best movie so far tbqh.

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Joe Johnston + period piece = max comfy

So your question is why are 2 movies more boring than 1 movie?

I think the reason why The First Avenger is better than those movies is because it isn't guns blazing BOOM BOOM EXPLOSIONS fucking constantly like in The Incredible Hulk for example. No quiet time at all.

You have patrician taste, my friend.

First avenger was shit tho.

Thor was worse.

Better supporting cast desu senpai.

Also actual character development and quiet moments like pointed out.

first Iron Man rules pleb

>First avenger was shit tho.

>Film with flaws but with a lot of charm
>Cool and down to earth Actor
>Nice setting
>Cute waifu material Main girl
>Average Joe turns to hero
>Great bromance


It's the best MCU film alongside ANT-MAN

Cap 1 has a great first half but the second half is weak as fuck.

>joe johnston
not even once

My only problem with The First Avenger is Red Skull. He just looked like a red The Mask and it was distracting as fuck because I expected him to go THEY CALL ME CUBAN PETE any moment.

I thought the ending picked back up a bit,

>I had a date

cap:tfa iss my favorite (only liked?) marvel movie. watched 2nd avengers a week ago and thoroughly hated it and swore off marvel movies. should I give ant man a go?

First Avenger felt like I was watching League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Fun, but reeked of early 00's superhero movemaking.

Iron Man is still the best standalone Marvel film. Excluding something more meta like Watchmen, Iron Man is IMO, the best superhero film.

ant man is pretty good, as is guardians (inb4 reddit) but they are relatively memey

The lack of irony and genuine affection for the character, coupled with a director who knows how to make a fun period movie while staying focused on the story.

MCU Rankings:
>Cap 2
>Cap 1
>Iron Man
>Cap 3
>Ant-Man
>Avengers
>Guardians of the Galaxy
>Iron Man 3
>The Incredible Hulk
>Thor
>Avengers: AoU
>Iron Man 2
>Thor 2

If you think The First Avenger is good, then you're in for a great film in Winter Soldier. TFA was garbage imo.

Guardians is right under or next to Cap 2. How did you even manage to put it that low.

Hating the dance-off has become a meme.

>formulaic plot
>boring villains
>too many quips with only a few decent ones

I still liked it, though

Sounds like a Thor or Hulk movie, not Guardians.

GotG>Cap1>Ant-Man

Guardians was so garbage. It was just a vehicle for Chris Pratt's growing popularity.

>chronological order
Whatever floats your boat.

Iron Man has a good build up to the suit and a dull 3rd act against Evil Iron Man. TFA has a better character build up and a dull 3rd act against Evil Captain America but a sad/more interesting ending. TIH's first half is a decent monster movie (Hulk is the monster) with one of the best MCU villains until the dull third act against Evil Hulk.

Nigger GotG doesn't have a "formulaic plot" along the lines of really anything else in capeshit. Name another movie that does The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly in space.

nah gotg is shit. showcases all that is wrong with capeshit

>GoTG
>Good

I admit It was fun, but it's a fucking meme movie

Shit setting
Shit Villain
Meme jokes

> but it's a fucking meme movie

You're a fucking meme m8. That's not a criticism.

>Shit setting
Seriously, you're a thick cunt.

No, Guardians has tons of quips. Tons. Every other line is joke.

>Le jackson pollack joke. it was such a clever line

Guardians was just some dumb comedy with literally zero plot.

because you have fucking taste

im not even joking with this ranking

>the first avenger
>winter soldier
>the avengers
>iron man
>civil war
>ant man
>guardians of the galaxy
>the incredible hulk
>thor
>iron man 2
>thor 2
>iron man 3
>age of ultron

Well what is it, quips or jokes? Sup Forums is looking real hard to replace baneposting with something and calling gotg shit is sure as fuck never gonna catch on.

100% accurate

also check my 69370177

The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
The First Avenger

THE UNDERRATED TRINITY OF MCU

>formulaic plot

It's a superhero movie, not fucking arthouse cinema dude. If you want something different than good guys team up and defeat the bad guy with the power of friendship you're in the wrong place

>boring villains

Having a standard megalomaniac villain who hams it up worked for that movie because he contrasted with the quirky Guardians. Did we really need a subversive quippy villain, too?

>Too many quips

This isn't a flaw for most people, and most of Guardians is actual jokes, not quips

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It's not a shit movie. However it has more problems then I was willing to admit the first or second time I had seen it. And people have now had 2 years to reflect on it, it's not going to be everyones favorite, there's a lot of MCU movies bro.

And it has both quips and jokes, I suppose.
Either way, so many convos, almost ALL of them in the movie are broken up with some kind of joke or something that is meant to be funny. Seriously watch it again, just take in how many things are meant as jokes/funny lines. It's relentless and GotG is one of the biggest offenders of it as far as MCU movies go.

>there's a lot of MCU movies bro.
And in 50 years the only ones people will give a shit about will be GotG.

I need to watch AoU again with a more open and critical mind. I'm pretty sure I dislike IM 3 more though.

Is this supposed to be a good thing?

>GOTG
>good
top kek

the only good scene was when picrelated was shown

WHO'LL HANG A NOOSE ON THE GOOSESTEPPING GOONS FROM BERLIN?
youtube.com/watch?v=7i574Em3IrI

This is the best scene in the movie, if not the entire MCU

Yes. Are you retarded?

Do you think that counters his entire post or something? He even said it's not a shit movie, good lord.

I tried to watch it but I didn't finish it. It wasn't bad, it just didn't hold my interest for some reason.

This

Not him but,

>This isn't a flaw for most people, and most of Guardians is actual jokes, not quips

But it is a flaw, everytime the movie tries to be emotional, everytime it tries to make you care there is some kind of joke to be thrown on top of it. They couldn't manage anything serious save the beginning. Boy they tried though, but they just couldn't go without throwing in a joke for a 10 minute stretch.

>that's not a bad thing

I disagree, especially watching it now. It doesn't destroy the movie, but it serves to not help it in a lot of instances.
>what happened
>I saw you out there and I just couldn't let you die
>I'm going to start joking now so get ready to roll your eyes.

>Why did you go back for this?
>my mother gave it to me the day she..when she..
>uh, this is emotional, but let me tell you about kevin bacon and why I like this thing.

>the scene I don't need to mention

>here is a serious convo, I'm pretty much asking you to die.
>I would be honored to die amongst friends. This is actually pretty heartfelt, shows my commitment, shows that I care about you guys and shows I'm ready to kick some ass and do what is right...oh and I'm sure you will be honored to make this into a joke in the next scene haha!
>now were all standing in a big circle, bunch of jackasses
>Groots eating his own leaf, apex kek
>what percentage of a plan

Probably one of the only convos that was serious and did not have a joke tossed in was when Rocket returns to Nowhere where Groot and Drax are and have the convos...oh no wait, he has to kick some grass lol!

Do you see what I mean? That's just a few scenes of a what, 2 hour movie? I can go on and on.
I didn't even mention the elephant in the room scene

>you realize it's a comedy right

That doesn't make it alright. Also there is such thing as good and bad comedies, just because they're telling jokes all the time doesn't automatically make a comedy 'good'. And I'm not even arguing GotG is "shit" or anything, just flawed.

Im currently watching Winter Soldier after avoiding most shit aside from Phase 1 and the mainline Avengers movies, this shit is fucking great. However Google Play is a fucking scam, I paid twice for HD rentals and they only allow me 480p muddy fucking garbage. Currently looking into getting a VPN so I can pirate and enjoy movies in some decent goddamn quality for once.

as if you aren't a complete fedora tipper for defending capeshit

>I know what will happen half a century from now

Awesome dude.

You mean:
>The Incredible Hulk
>Thor
>Age of Ultron

AoU was shit, you should watch Antman.

Patrician taste, OP. All the Iron Man movies are boring drek, the first one only gets hyped because it was the first of its kind.

>Do you think that counters his entire post or something?
I don't care about the rest of "his entire post." He's complaining that it has too much of a sense of humor and too many jokes. He's making meme criticisms that don't matter outside of the incestuous circlejerk of empty complaints that Sup Forums has become.

Being the movie that will still be well-regarded and rewatched in half a century is unambiguously "a good thing." Are you also retarded?

It's my prediction. Screencap it faggot. See you in 2016+50.

What is that thing anyway?

>lack of irony
>director who knows how to make a fun period movie

That's why I liked Thor

Movies I enjoyed
>GotG
>Winter Soldier
>Iron Man
Movies that were ok
>Avengers
>The First Avenger
>Civil War
>Ant-Man
Shit
>Age of Ultron
>Incredible Hulk
>Iron Man 2
>Thor
>Iron Man 3
>Dark World

To be fair, Guardians managed to pull off "the sci-fi alien villain is upset about a treaty" plot

Fuck , I am perfectly fine with Mark Ruffalo, but the mention of incredible hulk makes me wonder how much more awesome Avengers and even AoU might have been with fucking Edward Norton on screen with downey, renner, johanssen, Evans etc.

Dudes a dick, but he's a solid actor.

I liked Deadpool well enough but I feel like he wasn't enough of an asshole.

One of the Celestials, they call him Eson

Celestials are a species of powerful extraterrestrial cosmic beings, only few of Marvel characters can fight them like Odin or Dr Doom

>the guy who directed the best shakespeare films ever was the same guy who directed Thor

What in the fuck happened

>He's making meme criticisms

Yeah, it really doesn't matter if a movie having too many awful unfunny jokes and sometimes ruins what could have been some pivitol moments, it's just a "meme criticism"

Nah a meme criticism is saying it's outright shit and telling anyone who likes it to fuck off. That's a Sup Forums "thing".

Your post refutes nothing, it's just you huffing and puffing about how the movie has some magical staying power other marvel movies don't. Don't quote a post if your response is going to have nothing to do with it.

>Being the movie that will still be well-regarded and rewatched in half a century is unambiguously "a good thing." Are you also retarded?

You have no idea if this will happen. And again it refutes nothing. Keep throwing insults around though, makes you look super mature.

The best part of all of this is again, he's not even saying it's a shit film or trying to push some meme, just that it isn't flawless, I don't know why that's so hard to swallow.

Are they going to be relevant or is this just an Easter egg??

Part of world-building maybe

why is this allowed?

likely for after infinity war, i dont see them being used during or before

Nothing? How long is this "Thor movies were shit' thing going to go on? A little underwhelming maybe

Okay fine Thor 2 was kind of shit

People seem to dislike Thor but I thought it was alright. Not sure why they decided to have Thor not be Thor for most of the movie though.

>isn't guns blazing BOOM BOOM EXPLOSIONS fucking constantly like in The Incredible Hulk for example
this has to be a fucking joke. this "incredible hulk is bad" meme needs to stop already. its getting ridiculous. if anything, captain america is the one thats all explosions and action without any character development. did you even see the hulk?

I can't for the life of me remember anything in Iron Man 2 really.

I sort of remember there was a scene when Tony had the suit on and was drunk. I remember shit getting fuck at a race track.

...that's honestly it. What even was the final fight scene?

The worst part of the Thor 1 was the giant armor suit thing. In the theater the BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM it made every time it shot its beam was ear-splitting. I had to leave the theater until the thing died.

literally the only time in the movie where there wasn't action of some kind was when he was working the factory and messaging Dr. Blue

it was constant RUN AWAY FROM THOSE or HULK SMASH

Funny opinion because most people put the first Captain America right up there with AoU for some of the worst MCU movies.

I didn't care for it but he's definitely full of shit about the movie being constant explosions.

>awful unfunny jokes
They aren't. You're just a memey faggot.
>sometimes ruins what could have been some pivitol moments
You have a spectrum disorder.
>it's just a "meme criticism"
Glad we're on the same page.
>Nah a meme criticism is saying it's outright shit and telling anyone who likes it to fuck off. That's a Sup Forums "thing".
Complaining about quips is a literal-definition-of-the-academic-term meme on Sup Forums.
>Your post refutes nothing,
Implying we're having a conversation that merits "refutation." You didn't like that it had jokes.
>Don't quote a post if your response is going to have nothing to do with it.
Pic related is my dog. His name is Dog Bronson.
>You have no idea if this will happen.
Sure I do. I'm a soothsayer.
>And again it refutes nothing
spectrum disorder.
>Keep throwing insults around though
you're less intelligent than you believe you are.
> makes you look super mature.
I don't come here to project maturity. I don't like to take my work home with me.
>just that it isn't flawless
Which is what makes it so good and ultimately timeless. Wabi Sabi brah.
>I don't know why that's so hard to swallow.
Next time tell him to eat pineapple before hand.

I am going to remain the only person who liked Age of Ultron aren't I?

And I am DEFINITELY going to remain the only person who liked it more than the first Avengers, right?

okay... ;_;...

The studio made Favreau throw in a lot of universe building shit with Nick Fury and Shield. And the final fight was just Iron Man fighting 100 other iron men.

No to the first but yes to the second.

I liked Age of Ultron, but it did have some problems in the script. The first one was better though, so you're alone there.

kek

i guess the rest of the fucking movie doesnt count since you only watched the first 20 minutes

>Implying we're having a conversation that merits "refutation." You didn't like that it had jokes.

No one said that either though. I'm just of a similar opinion to the guy you originally quoted, that sometimes there is just too much or there really didn't need to be a joke. Plenty of Marvel movies fall into this though, GotG sticks out the most to me for it.

I'm not trying to act like I didn't laugh or have a good time watching it.
The movie has flaws, that's all anyone is saying.

You don't have to agree, but you also don't need to make a completely wiled assumption about half a century from now and pretend it's some sort of response to that critcism

>work at factory
>hitsquad
>run
>guatemala
>back to the university
>pizza delivery
>long hulk fight scene
>betty and him are on the run
>more fight shit at the new university
>abomination hapens
>explosions and cars flying everywhere
>end
Literally shut the fuck up.

im not whoever youre talking to, but i really have to ask. why are jokes a NEGATIVE in a comedy movie for you people? i get if you dont like the jokes themselves, but you all just say there were too many jokes

I liked TFA (capeshit not starshit) and GOTG.

Was meh about the others.

Fucking hated Antman.

you yourself just pointed out that there were 3 (THREE) (TRES) (TROIS) (SAN) times. the bottle factory, the university, and the final showdown. the rest was filled with character development/drama+some comedy between bruce and betty and his frustrations over being unable to live a normal life, not even being able to have sex because anything can set him off. so how about you literally shut the fuck up and take your memes elsewhere

>there were 3 times
And that was 80% of the movie.

AoU was the 'okay this is kind of getting old' movie.

Like was it bad? No. could it have been better? Yeah. Were there a lot of missed opportunities? Sure. Does every marvel film have that though? Basically.


I feel it was the MCU film that finally made people go "this is kind of getting tiresome...I've seen this before"

>lot of jokes, check
>villain pretty much does nothing of value, check
>cool scene of everyone working together with lots of CGI and enough camera cuts to where you don't know what the fuck is what? Check
>random plot points that under closer scrutiny kind of don't make sense? Check

Even though it was one of the harsher "rotten" reviews the one where the guy said it's pretty much Transformers but people are going to overlook that because it's an avengers movie, sort of had a point...

It's nice there's a little break between Civil War, and the Infinity War movies. Gives people time to breathe a little.

>>villain pretty much does nothing of value, check
Ultron was the only reason I wanted to watch this movie. Would I be wasting my time?

>i was wrong but heres another lie about why its still bad
absolutely not. fuck off already. i blame Sup Forums being stupid and reactionary for this meme sticking as long as it did

>I am now aware more than half of Avengers is on the air ship helicarrier thing

Damn

He's cool, he makes some valid points, but to put it in simple terms he does a lot of talking the talk more so than actually backing it up.

He's a bit underwhelming, honestly, but not a movie killer.

Of course.

>The movie has flaws, that's all anyone is saying.
Bruh. It's impossible to even talk about it without people saying reddit, memes, quips, etc.

>The movie has flaws
And that isn't "refuting" anybody in the first place. What kind of belligerent dipshit would ever suggest that any movie is "flawless?" GotG's imperfection and troma-y feel are what elevates it above the rest of the cut-and-dried MCU movies.

>but you also don't need to make a completely wiled assumption about half a century from now
Just did. Whine about more.
>and pretend it's some sort of response to that critcism
There is no criticism of note. When there's nothing overwhelmingly wrong with a movie, the contrarians inevitably complain about "quips." It's well-written wordplay and optimism porn. If you didn't like it, there's no discussion to be had. Much less a "response." People outside of the contrarian Sup Forums hivemind overwhelmingly responded positively to the "quips." I don't really need to dignify non-specific complaints to sate some teenager's autism. Not one bit.

Maybe I'll just look up some of his scenes on youtube.

>Infinity Wars I and II in 2018 and '19
>the first time you know who will do anything will be two thousand and fucking eighteen.

Guys..this mother fucker has literally been sitting on a chair since 2012, holy shit.

How sore do you think his ass is?

It had a great first half but it went to shit after he actually got the powers. I wanted to see fucking Saving Private Rogers but they gave me some shitty thing without a single swastika. Fuck'em.

See, I enjoyed Thor 2 way more than Thor.
Probably because they developed Asgard a bit more.

In regards to the GotG and quips debate, Ant-Man probably has more quips than GotG and has Quips: the Actor as the lead yet doesn't get criticised as much.
Similarly, GotG doesn't have the four leads outshone by a side kick (Edward Peña)