Is The Witch just a meme horror?

I am about an hour into the movie and so far it's just been a couple of halfway-retarded kids in danger, and also a fully-retarded baby. How am I supposed to feel fear from watching this movie?? Does it get any better in the second half?

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I thought the picture, score, and writing was great. It was unsettling and disturbing without being too 'in your face'. The pacing in the second half picks up a little, idk mang, i liked it, was a great change from the usual jumpscare horror.

It's fucking shit, don't believe the meme crowd.
Literally Nothing Happens: The Flick

ITT Plebs

>pausing a movie so you can shitpost on Sup Forums

This is now a chill goat thread

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Living the delicious life. Nice one user

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I thought the first half was good but yes, the intensity picks up quite a lot in the final act. Some parts had my heart racing.

>meme horror

Please fucking kill yourself

OP here: Idk, it just feels like you need to either feel a great attachment to children (be a parent, be a pedophile, etc...) or be extremely religious to get the full effect from this movie

Black Phil is a CUTE

You actually have autism my man

Okay

To be fair, the twins annoyed the fuck out of me

I enjoyed it even tho I didnt understand about 85% of the dialogue.

Why are her eyes so far apart?

We all have autism

black phil hasn't got fukken shit on gary, mate

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Black Philip is satan himself. Thomasin becomes a witch.

If anything, I think this is a decent film about a pilgrim family going bat-shit insane

There's one thing i didnt quite understand. Why did the father lower his axe against black phillip?

Just appreciate the changes thomasin, mother, and father undergo. Also to be appreciated is the mastery the director shows of a cast that's literally a majority children actors. It's a good movie. Don't think of it as horror.

I still think you would need to be medically retarded to get "scared" by the plot of this movie

no it follows was a meme horror

So the girl wanted to be a vvitch all along? Or am I missing something here ?

It's a psychological thriller with horror elements.

You won't get the usual horror schlock in this one. Sorry, if your plebness can't enjoy thrillers.

Please, I went into this film expecting it to be to 2016 what Ex Machina was to 2015, but it's honestly a 6/10 flick.

the ass in the witch definitely beats the ass in ex machina

"Psychological thriller". Was this the first movie you ever watched? Seriously, this movie is about a bunch of retarded pilgrims in the woods. Can you honestly say this movie "thrilled" you psychologically?

Yeah, the ass was the best part, shame we didn't get to see more of it.

I want to hear your definition of a "psychological thriller"

Lmao are you saying Ex Machina was a great movie? Have some dignity, Redditor.

You haven't seen a lot of thrillers have you?

This movie deconstructs the effect of religion/superstition on the psyche.

I'm sorry there weren't enough jump scares and gore and scary monsters in it for you.

Seriously, get some taste.

Not him, but causes you to feel fear or nervousness without making you move suddenly in your seat? By no means a perfect definition, it's just usually how I think of it. I just think of it as my psyche is scared, my body is not.

A psychological thriller deals with a mystery that works on the psyche on the main characters.

The Witch deals with a mystery of what happened to the baby, the brother and the twins and how it effects the psyche of the family, predominantly Thomasin.

Ex Machina was really good, go back to your upvote site and cry more.

You're half right.

It has excellent cinematography, atmosphere, and some of the best child actors I've ever seen. Worth watching just for those points.

But it is pretty meme-y. Just look at the Sup Forums threads. No discussion, just Black Phillip memes.

>No discussion, just Black Phillip memes.

I've had countless of interesting discussions about the movie, even in the meme threads.

But yea, you can ignore the discussions and focus on the memes if you want to prove your point. That's easy.

Oh come on. Tv will make memes about any movie. Dispense with that. It does very well what it sets out to do.

Okay, sounds good buddy!

Gotcha. I do think this movie was deeply unsettling at several points, but I think my biggest issue was that I never felt too attached to the characters or the overall plot. A perfect horror/thriller for me would be that disturbing/unsettling tone mixed with a somewhat relatable plot

>I never felt too attached to the characters

I doubt many people would feel attached to a bunch of 17th century puritans.

Do you only enjoy movies about characters you can relate to?

You can still feel attached to characters even if they are different from you, I'm not sure what you are getting at. Feeling attachment for a character is a sign of how well a character is developed, not how similar you are to that character (at least, in my opinion)

Now that I think about it, I'm not sure there is any material that doesn't either fall in normie-pleb tier or edgy-contrarian according to Sup Forums. All I can think of is perhaps a simple but eloquently made film like Master & Commander. I don't know if I've ever seen that bashed here.

I'm sure just mentioning it will bring all sorts of critics out of the woodwork, though.

meant elegantly, not eloquently

Character development is what defines characters. I'm pretty sure you can adequately describe all of the main characters in the movie.

I think you confuse it with likeability.

Likeability is what makes one attached to a character.

Fuck goats.

I see where you are coming from, but I often find myself attached to characters even if I don't "like" them. If a character is interesting and well developed I usually find myself attached to that character, to some degree. Again, this is only my opinion and I understand that there are people who feel much differently

Again, not him, but I find myself wondering what would create better attachment for you in this film. Obviously they're different from us in a lot of ways, but at the heart of it I see community, family, and trust as the main issues they deal with here. All those things are enduring human issues, so I find it pretty easy to connect. When you say attachment is connected to the development of a character, are you suggesting they were not developed (movie picked up suddenly in their lives) or they were developed poorly (unbelievable decision making, etc.)?

Moreso the unbelievable decision making, but I understand this is because they are from a completely different culture/time-period. I do think it's a decent movie, a convincing period-piece/fiction about a pilgrim family going crazy; but to me it never felt like a fully-realized horror film

The characters in the Witch are well developed. They all have distinct personalities and they change over time in a believable manner.

You might find them not interesting, which is understandable, but that has more to do with you than the movie.

I don't get to witness a lot of puritan people so I was already interested in that aspect.

Seeing how their superstition made them turn against each other was very intriguing to me.

But that's just me and I do understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea.

That's because it's not really a horror film. It has a lot in common with 10 Cloverfield Lane actually.

Just replace the witch with aliens.

It's more of a psychological thriller with some supernatural elements to it.

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I have this downloaded in my hdd but I'm hesitant to watch it, the last time Sup Forums went mad for some so called memehorror movie was the babadook and it was completely underwhelming, it was decent but nowhere near the hype and shilling... I suspect it's going to be the same with this movie.

The part when she smooches the boy was pretty hot and so was seeing that girls butt the end

>born April 16, 1996

Goats > Hares

I'm so fucking tired of people calling this horror. Not that it's your fault or anything; that's how it was marketed. But the amount of criticisms that can simply be responded to with "ok, it's not horror; what do you think of it now?" is so gigantic. Seriously, don't view it as horror. If it ends up being good horror (in your opinion), whatever; lucky you. If it's not "scary" enough then that way you won't come back bitching like everyone else does. Again, not trying to shit on you. I'm just amazed by how rigid some people are. It's like if you're told you're eating the best taco in the world and it turns out to be the best quesadilla in the world they feel completely ripped off or something; makes no sense to me.

The final battle is literally a drunk pilgrim fighting one of his own goats. It's essentially "Australia: The Movie"

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Thomasin is pure. PURE!

I don't know much about the bible, what satan would do with bunch of witches?

Make his influence on Earth stronger? Like, show everyone how fun it can be to sign over your soul?

I still don't get this movie. Goat/devil worked together with the witches to destroy the family and to take Tomasin? There were 2 threats all along, right?

I'd implant my demon seed balls deep inside her

It has nothing to do with the Bible.

>The final battle

This is what capeshit has done to people.

Seems like the greatest threat was Tomasin's schizophrenia

What's the hare supposed to be if goat's a satan?

No, no, no. The family was already fucked. That's why they had to leave the town.

The father's sin was pride.
The mother's sin was wrath.
The brother's sin was lust.
The twins were sloth and gluttony.
Thomasin was greed and envy.

They all got punished by the devil. The witches were just one of his tools.

Heh, I thought about that right as I posted, probably should have said "the climax" of the movie. Sarcastically said "final battle" because it literally was a fight between a dude and a goat at the end of the movie

What are talking about it's not even a battle the goat attacked him out of nowhere

Yea, but that isn't even the climax. The climax is Thomasin killing her mother and selling her soul to the devil.

Seriously. Get help. Stop watching capeshit.

The fucking goat talks.

Get out.

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She wasn't greedy or envious at all. Apart from the baby she actually seemed to be without sin, which probably made her all the more enticing to Satan and why he went through the trouble of getting her. She only gave in to Satan because she had no other choice.

Will you be my therapist, daddy?

*apart from the baby she was the only family member without sin

And she was even baptized too.

>without sin
>murders her mother

feed them butter

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She was envious of how her siblings got treated and she also envied her life in England which factors in to her greed, that's why she gets seduced by the devil with butter and a pretty dress.

Was Thomasin punished in the end tho? also mother has signed a book when she dreamed of the boy, right? Didn't that make her a witch also? I like the lore, and the folktale element of this movie a lot

She lied which lead to her being accused of being a witch, cajoled her brother into taking her out into the woods which lead to him dying, and she killed her mother. She sinned a whole lot, breh.

She became a pawn of the devil. Most of us would call that shitty.

>also mother has signed a book when she dreamed of the boy, right? Didn't that make her a witch also?

She was offered the book, but I don't think she signed it. That's why the baby changes into a crow.

Thomasin was punished in the sense that her family is dead and she killed her mother. She ultimately offers her soul to the devil in order to live deliciously.

the following and the babadook are also meme horror

>gets to live forever
>gets super powers
>gets new friends
>happy ending

Spotted the faggot.
Babadook was a great film.

needed more black phillip, the goat was the GOAT

was the boy saved by Jesus or what? Couldn't figure out if he was saved or just damned like the rest.

the two kids were the creepiest part of the movie

Babadook was alright but it was overrated. Not scurry enough.

He was damned for lusting after his sister.

>you will never live deliciously

Self defense isn't murder.

No she wasn't. Remembering pleasant past events or being frustrated with your younger siblings is neither greed nor envy. And she gave in to the devil first (she went to seek him out) because there was nothing else for her to do).

Again, self defense isn't murder and her retard brother would have gotten seduced by the witch anyway because of his own sins.