SNOKE IS NOT PLAGUEIS CONFIRMED

SNOKE IS NOT PLAGUEIS CONFIRMED

PLAGUEIS FAGS BTFO

wtf kind of name is snoke anyways? I find it lacks any originality at all. Fuck all of episode 7 lacked originality.

>We want the Hunger Games audience.

In that case they should have named him Penis.

>kylo ren is not original

inb4 EUfags

Darth icky- superior name.

>edgelord
>original
Holy shit kill yourself asap senpai desu

And who is this guy?

>Han Solo's son turning evil
Nothing original with that

Who the fuck is plagueis?

He is the Senate

>most fleshed out and developed villain in the entire star wars franchise
>not original

what a faggot

I honestly would have enjoyed this movie faaaaar more if it was straight forward about the skywalker lineage. Does this series really need to be so mysterious? There can still be twists and turns without it being empire strikes back reveal 2.0

>Kylo Ren
>fleshed out and developed
We don't even know why he turned to the Dark Side. There's just a few throwaway lines about how he's obsessed with Vader's legacy, which isn't a good reason.

>The master of Darth Sidious who was killed by sidious in his sleep

it's obvious they stretched the plot out over a trilogy

It's a prank brah.

You have to admit Snoke is heavily influenced by Plagueis, though. Just look at this imagery.

Does this fat neckbeard even have anything to do with the movies? Or he just oversees Wookipedia EU bullshit that's all been thrown out anyways

>the game

Now I've lost.

good. look at this goofy motherfucker.

That appearance is no longer canon. He could look like anything in the Disney canon

whatever

Everything about Snoke is extremely underwhelming and bland. I can't fathom how people are so curious as to who he is. Any air of mystery that his role in the story might create is dashed by how boring every other aspect of him is.

Can't believe there were people stupid enough to a character as irrelevant as Plagueis would ever be show up again.

eh, they wanted an interesting backstory for Snoke, not Emperor 2.0.
but who cares anyway

Just like Darth Vader is not Anakin Skywalker :^)

No shit. Anyone expecting any plot/continuity connection or deeper meaning behind Snoke doesn't understanding the sequel trilogy.

Snoke is going to be a generic sith lord. I doubt he'll even be given any backstory at all.

That's an actual retcon.

>LITERALLY a combination of Darth Revan and Jacen Solo
>original

>implying JJ has ever heard of some shitty EU fan fiction characters
EUfags are crazy yo.

Snoke is undoubtedly the worst thing in Force Awakens. Say what you will about every other character, but wannabe Emperor with a stupid name and a ridiculously big hologram was the most shlocky Disney thing ever.

Who cares? Seriously? Snoke is completely forgettable.

So now instead of a canon character, we're getting an oc donut steel that has apparently lived for hundreds of years but is not mentioned once in the past six movies?

Makes a lot of sense senpai.

Snoke is canon, why are you complaining about?

Well shit, you should have told us you're a time traveler. that has seen the new trilogy already. How goes Trump's presidency in the future?

SNOKE IS JAR JAR BINKS.

My problem with Snoke is that he is said to have lived for a long time, and yet there is not a single mention of him in the past six movies, hell, not even a hint.

I'm not saying they HAD to use someone mentioned in the old movies, but why not go with younger villains instead of shoehorning in some random guy 'who was always there'?

but if you don't know anything about him except his face and voice, how can you know which aspects of him are boring?

wat

I don't think this is a valid complaint until they reveal Snoke's back story. I think you are jumping the gun a bit without adequate information.

Who said he lived that much?

Nice try juden, I'm onto your tricks.

The only things you know about Snoke are:

* Leader of the First Order
* Seduced Kylo to the Dark Side
* CLAIMS he can train Kylo in the Dark Side
* Has a damaged face and looks/sounds oldish

You don't know:
* If he can actually use the force
* If he is tiny or huge
* Why he is damaged
* If he is actually old
* How Leia knew him before
* How he seduced Kylo

It's said that he saw the rise and fall of the Empire.

Snoke was apparently always present during the rise of the Empire, so why did no one ever mention someone so powerful being alive?

This is what the new trilogy is starting to do with TFA, they add new shit while ignoring the past six movies. Jedi needed training? Fuck that, the Force does everything.

>Snoke was apparently always present during the rise of the Empire, so why did no one ever mention someone so powerful being alive?
See, you're making an assumption that he is powerful here, but we don't actually know much about him.

>his is what the new trilogy is starting to do with TFA, they add new shit while ignoring the past six movies.
I don't like it either, but it's a soft reboot. The only characters that matter are the super iconic ones, since they give authenticity to the new movies. Minor characters don't and are not really important.

Snoke has been stated to have had several apprentices before Kylo. It's obvious that he can use the Force since he's the one training the new Sith.

>* If he can actually use the force
>* If he is tiny or huge
>* If he is actually old
>* How he seduced Kylo
answered in the novelization

Rise and fall of the Empire is like what, 30 years?

Han Solo also saw it. Leia and Luke too.

Luke and Leia were literally born the day the Empire started.

>new Sith
No such thing as Sith anymore.

Can you provide said answers?

Because I read it and it never says any of that.

Stated where? Stop lying lol

I think the novelizations states that Kylo is his "best" apprentice yet. Not that I would trust anything he says though.

Maybe he's just a hack fraud who cannot even into the force but somehow managed to bullshit his way to the top and surround himself with powerful people

Did people seriously think that the new trilogy would even acknowledge plageous? He was barely mentioned at all before, the lay audience member probably won't have any idea who he is. I wouldn't mind seeing it but it just seems unlikely that he will ever show up again

what's a plagueis

SNOrt coKE

Like the other user said, there's novels. Which is funny since you need to read them to make sense of what the fuck is going on in that mess of a movie.

Yea, IMO the name Snoke and his almost literally snake-like body tells us he is like a snake in the more literary sense: he lies, deceives.

He probably can't use the force at all, he is just conniving and evil.

Only rabid EU fan boys cared about him and thought he is important. But EU people tend to be pretty autistic.

Agree. The snake/smoke naming is clearly that.

Like his hologram.

Smoke and mirrors. Guy is gonna be weak as fuck, just very smart.

Exactly, I wouldn't take anything Snoke says at face value. Han Solo outright tells him Snoke is using Ben after all.

I read the novels, it's not there.

You are quoting wookiepedia.

>shitty rough draft name by George Lucas vs. a shitty name that made it into the final product
Good logic you got there mang, where'd you get it?

>How he seduced Kylo
Well he started off with a nice evening out then he invited him back to his place, he lit a nice cosy fire which they cuddled in front of for a while before things got a little steamy.

Snoke sounds like some tiny and wise old man in a childrens movie desu

Then they didn't see it rise, they just saw it fall, Han was 8-11 in RotS so he saw it rise and fall.

Plagueism is a mental disease.

wat

so you say they he see it then say he did?

wat

also,

are children blind or what?

they would see it even if they were 2 yrs old

and how does that contradict my point? snoke could be 40 or 50 years old for all we know

wat

>Implying Rens appearance wasnt stolen from Revan
Theyre practically the fucking same

Is this serious?

Revan is just a Vader with Boba Fett's mask, like all of KotOR, it's a giant movie rip off. There is nothing original in KotOR.

If you were to look at the Art of Star Wars, you would see that Ren is also completely derivative of Vader. His first costume was so much like Vader they had to tone it down because even they realized they are too obvious.

the most disappointing moment in SW7 is when that temple starts collapsing and the rocks go through the giant hologram of Snoke. I had been hoping the whole time that he was a 20 foot tall nigga but now hes probably gunna be like 4 feet at most.