Looks are knowledge and knowledge is power

looks are knowledge and knowledge is power.
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PARADOXICAL

god that was awful

Disagree. Not all villains are alphas

>tfw critics hated this character because he behaved like a nu-male and they don't like seeing themselves portrayed negatively like that

he was literally the best character in the film.
Who needs quips if you have Lex Suckerberg in your film?

most people just hated him because he's not their manchild comic luthor.

But Lex is supposed to be alpha, for the most part. In one of the best recent Superman stories, Lex was at near peak physical and mental form. That's what made his hatred of Superman so perfect, that no matter how hard a man tries, he will never, ever be at the level of the alien pest, but goddamn if that's going to stop Luthor from trying.

And in a way, he succeeded, then failed, but then succeeded at a higher goal.

I think Eisenberg was a good choice for a Birthright-inspired Luthor, but that's not what the script called. To be honest, I still have no idea what the script called for, and Eisenberg's performance suffered because of it.

>most people just hated him because he's not their manchild comic luthor
case in point:

>no matter how hard a man tries, he will never, ever be at the level of the alien pest,

Honestly, that just makes me want to root for Luthor. He seems like the underdog here. It's like Tom and Jerry. You can only see Tom get the shit beaten out of him so many times before you want to see him catch Jerry and skin him alive.

:^)

That's why it works so well. There was nothing going for Snyder Luthor, no solid motivations, none that made sense anyways. The script was so weak that it kneecapped any potential for an interesting portrayal, especially a new one separate from the comics, which is what most of these cape films fail to do.

People who complained about this Luthor are the same retards who wanted him to put on his green ironman suit and start flying around shooting lasers. Little kid shit.

Well there is more to it than that. Like how in many ways, Clark is the more human of the two of them. Lex does so many bad things that it's hard not to think of him as a monster, and yet in his opinion, he represents humanity in its struggle against "the alien".

>hehehe... aaah... no. no...
EVERY Fucking time

>daddy's fists and abominations.
>god is tribal clark-jo

power my friend, it was all about power, there was no such thing as an all powerful savior to him. It didn't make sense, and he hated Clark for perpetuating the myth that god can be that.

You probably think Aquaman still rides a seahorse, you Family guy watching faggot.

Lol whatever that means.

Yeah, I'm not even disagreeing, just his actions seemed really separate from his motivations in execution. Outside of that one exposition dump in his daddy's office, there wasn't much else to point to that theory in terms of why he did anything halfway through the second act. Most of his actions seemed to serve the central plot, instead of his own goals.

He wanted to pit man against god to show how worthless god was. It is a little convoluted in the movie however, and i imagine the longer cut cleared Lex up a little. Its a shame, because i think it can be easily looked past.

Just for clarification, by man vs god, do you mean Bats vs Supes? That makes sense, but I'd just personally feel like Luthor would fight his own battle to prove superiority, instead of handing to an unknown element. Not in a bloody mech suit, but through his own means.

It works, in a way, since they highlighted Luthor's manipulative/distant side, what with the remote explosion, the central fights, and smaller elements, like the letters being blocked. I've just always felt Luthor works better claiming victory for his own ego, which is a flaw that I don't remembered being explored much in BvS, though I could have just forgotten.

yes i do, and manipulating Batman and Superman IS his own way. He took his mother, he is quite involved.

>He took his mother, he is quite involved.
True, but that really only heightens in that later part of the film, the early Luthor is mostly focused on subterfuge and manipulation I feel, and only really revealed himself when he thought he was ready, which honestly, I think works really well.

Personally, I wanted to see a personality shift in jail. Some kind of mental transition when he loses his pride and joy hair. Obviously, but I felt like it would've added something to his character that could be explored in the next movie.

My feelings towards almost all the writing elements of BvS boils down to neat ideas, mediocre execution. I think there was something promising there, but somehow, it got lost.

go watch the animated JL movies you mouthbreather.

I agree that his state in the prison seemed a little off. I suppose that has a lot to do with his contact / fear of Apocalips which just isn't played out in the movie to save time. Execution is the issue you are right. I think Snyder struggles to make films that work for less than 3 hour cuts, but i also think the studio probably wanted this movie to do a lot more than it needed to.

>go watch the animated JL movies

Why would I watch that shit? But yeah just completely ignore how he looks and acts in Superman animated or Smallville, you dumb cunt.

I think Snyder has great potential to make certain types of movies, but continuously tries techniques and approaches that he honestly can't handle. He's aiming above his skill, which is admirable, but it really doesn't count unless you can stick the landing.

Also, I have no doubt the studio kneecapped him throughout production. Explains the after credit sequence halfway through the movie.

Petty, but no matter how hard I picture a perfectly executed, Snyder-peak BvsS, there's still that one part of me that always wanted that World's Finest.

Hopefully we'll get it at some point.

This scene was actually fine

I think this movie is all about humbling superman, connecting him with humans and turning him into the hero we all know him as.

We'll get our lighter batman/reeves-esque superman team up eventually i think.

I like that, and again, elements are definitely there, it's just missing a few key scenes that would tie it all together nicely, which hopefully will be on the director's cut.

I rather enjoy capeshit, it's admittedly nice to see when characters I love get justice and recognition on a larger cultural scale. Yet to see CW, but I heard Rudd as Lang is a highlight, which is cool.If you told me the lamest Ant-Man gets a starring moment in a multi-hundred million blockbuster, I might've laughed.

There's too much of it being released and announced right now though, someone is going to run over someone's toes at some point, and it'll be very ugly, maybe fatal, for at least one studio, which would actually be a shame.

the insect themed superheroes in CW are the highlight for sure. The final act is a little dull imo, but the airport fight is good fun.

Neat, I'm checking it out with some friends tonight, should be fun.

Also, can't believe they've been showing the Giant Man reveal in recent trailers, I thought it was geared more to be a minor surprise. It's not an illogical choice, I was hype just seeing a soundless WEBM of the scene, but I would've enjoyed it even more in a theater setting.

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Yeah im a two trailer guy. keeps things fairly fresh. i should have done that with bvs desu/.

I love the ideal of trailers, the best parts of the movie set to appropriate music that properly gets across the general plot and tone of the film across in a few minutes.

However, since directors, or any part of the core production crew, rarely have time to dedicate man-hours to another project, so the studio gets a post-production house to do it, which I think can lead to some real pieces of shit.

Just compare The Snowtown Murders trailer to the new AssCreed trailer. Kurzel would've never gone with that direction if he was in control of the latter trailer. However, he's too busy making sure a hundred million dollars don't go up in smoke on set, so the studio picked someone who wanted to put an inappropriate Yeezy song over the whole thing.

you think quality will win out in that movie?

I have HUGE faith in the creative team and talent. However, I can't lie and say the trailer didn't challenge my expectations a bit.

In the end, there's nothing more that I want then for it to be a great movie, at least an enjoyable little adaptation, but I'm mostly concerned about Kurzel and his crew making it out alive if it doesn't.