Who's ready for projects to get funding even if they aren't the best projects simply because someone has more melanin!...

Who's ready for projects to get funding even if they aren't the best projects simply because someone has more melanin! Whooo!

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Who cares, they're doing it to themselves.

Since when has the film industry ever prioritized funding the best projects?

To be fair, Id rather watch a black woman's film than a spoiled and downright toxic white woman's film.

it worked with cannon films, and they literally made the best films of the 80s and 90s

white male film directors have been making low budget high quality films for a century
women haven't because they're intellectually inferior

why do you faggots pay so much attention to this gay shit, you are just giving them attention

god i wish everyone but me would get genocided

>even if they aren't the best projects

That's already a given since it's women. And stories by white women are ones I never want to hear anyway. I'd sit through anything else made by a non white woman 500 times rather than The Intern or Sex and the City 2 or Sisters or some other trash like that again.

Ironically youre not entirely right.

Making good films can also be about emotional expression and creativity, which women are supposedly better at right?

Well wrong. Women are shit at everything.

There isnt a single female director who made it on her own.

Even Bigalow, whom I like needed to shag Cameron to become a name.

i don't even remember ever watching a british film. now i probably never will.

I agree. Daughters of the Dust is better than any film i've seen by a white woman.

>Pretending cinema has any sort of integrety or artistic merit this hard.
Movies can and never will be art. They are a conglomeration of several forms of art mashed together by technicians. A single shot can mimic the true art found in a painting. But it will never be art itself. The music can imitate the expression of masters long gone. But will always be a hollow facsimile itself. And the movie? As a whole it will never be art. Get BTFO cinefags.

>women
>directing
DROPPED

>lottery
>we pick who wins.

Huh?

>british film industry

shit and unprofitable productions, all the talent goes to america- if they want to tank even harder by valuing race and gender over talent, all power to them.

Oops, I think you ended up proving that there is anti-female institutional bias whilst on your misogynistic rant!
>There isnt a single female director who made it on her own.
Well yes this follows from what you were saying, women are "shit at everything" so obviously they would never make a decent film which could get attention.
>Even Bigalow, whom I like needed to shag Cameron to become a name.
Hold on, a woman not "shit", whom you like, needed to sell her sexuality to get ahead. That's the point us feminists tend to make, what a nice, progressive observation about the inequality within the system.

You're a dipshit. At least have the good grace to be consistent in your hatred.

OP, the whole point of this kind of thing is that there are 2 assumptions being made:

1. Black people have just as much capacity to be creative as white people (a point so obvious that anyone who has had more than a superficial interaction with a black person will immediately recognise).
2. That there is unconscious bias within the system towards the culturally dominant race.

Given 1 and 2, it makes sense to ensure there is a conscious bias which has as it aim the offsetting of societal unconscious bias.

I hope this makes things a bit clearer for all you stupid, thought-lacking racists.

lol

>WAHHH WHY ARE THEY GIVING A DEMO THAT MAKES UP 50% OF THE POP 50% OF THEIR FUNDING

Stop. Your bait is weak.

>No response
>Urrggh please stop baiting me, I'm getting triggered.

Will sexists/racists ever learn?

More like "why fund projects that don't deserve it?"

Also 50% of Britain's population aren't brown women, which are the primary target of this funding crap.

Just because there isn't perfect parity does not mean there isn't equality.

The fact that they're willing to impose sanctions against the majority proves that if anything they have a pro-minority bias. You think the film industry is full of white supremacists and misogynists? Why are they doing this then?

Are you fucking illiterate dude? How did you read "if they're all white, we will have failed" to mean that the majority will go to non-white women?

...

This.

>simply because someone has more melanin

No user, that's why they were DENIED funding for the last half century

white people are too good they actually need teams of minority groups to stop them excelling and place restrictions

yet they still excel

Its china's turn next so good luck

t. capeshit fan

I like how in every medium I enjoy, film, music, literature - in almost every single instance not only are the women veritable nothings compared to the men but generally their careers bud from their disdain for the men.

And don't get me wrong I'm certainly racist, but the reality is black people excel at NOTHING unless that's being impotent bullies who think shiny rocks and fancy shoes are the end-all of this world.

Fuck off with this day and age. Talent means shit these days. Your skin color and/or gender trumps everything else.

FUCK.
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Tits and ass for good measure not related.

>Its another "I'm mad about shit that doesn't effect me at all" episode
And you niggers bitch about tumblr. Two different sides of the same whiny ass coin.

who are good or at least best black male directors?

I'll admit I was pretty excited when I saw this (You). Scrolled down with a half chub and a twinkle in my eye. And then I see it. This. You got me good friend.

What a disappointment you must be to your mother. Congratulations on surviving the abortion.

>Why acknowledge something retarded is happening?!? Let's be good goys and just silently embrace it!

Jesus christ there is a difference between equality and whatever it is they are doing. This is legitimate discrimination based on race and gender and its hilarious they don't realize it.

Did you read what I wrote? Unconscious structural bias is what I am talking about. If you want to think about it another way:

Given (1) - from my original post - you would expect to see more equality (I am using this word to imply proportionality of representation) within the film industry. Since this is not the case, one assumes there is unconscious - and again I stress that word, it's very important - bias within the system itself. In other words, the market dictates what will be made. If movies are made in order to appeal to the majority of the market, they will tend towards representations of societally dominant races or genders. (It is another argument whether, as rightists seem to believe, the left has won the cultural war, but in terms of the real loci of power, the banks, the governments, high-earners, etc. white men still dominate pretty handily.) There is therefore no moral consideration made by any individual within the system, but in order to serve its profit motive there will be an unconscious bias. Not only that, but I would not dismiss the idea that people, through no real fault of their own, tend to favor people of their own gender and ethnicity when recruiting. Applied to the film industry we can see how there would be a bias towards people similar to those who run it - white people, by and large.

Now I have explained, essentially, the idea of ideology and its operation within the film industry, we can talk about the idea that they are "willing to impose sanctions against the majority" which shows "they have a pro-minority bias". This is all within the realm of enforcing conscious bias to eradicate the aforementioned unconscious one.

Listen, it's absolutely ridiculous for those who are the beneficiaries end of this unconscious bias to complain about explicit "sanctions" when the very issue here is IMPLICIT sanctions against minorities which are much more pervasive and insidious.

It's creepy. These self-loathing weirdos don't want equality of opportunity, they want equality of outcome. Which is literally impossible and unattainable.

It's a moral crusade with no end goal. There will never be a point at which these people declare themselves happy. Instead, the movement just begins to eat itself by marginalising all groups until they're fighting for the rights of wheelchair-bound gender-fluid queer folk and everyone else is problematic.

It's never been easier to make independent film. It's true that nepotism exists in the film industry, but it's also true that far more men are interested in the technical side of filmmaking than women.

>they don't realize it
are you fucking stupid? they are doing it themselves on purpose.

Read these
and enlighten yourself. Eventually you will realise that you are simply idiotic and can't comprehend subtle arguments. If something seems one way on the face of it GOD DAMN IT THAT IS HOW I AM GOING TO THINK ABOUT IT and any attempt to make me reconsider my initial reaction will be met by the STONE COLD WALL OF MY IGNORANCE.

That's you right now. Try being a little more patrician in future.

Just because they have their reasons for doing it doesn't mean those reasons are right or that we have to agree with them. Why does it bother you so much that some people are bothered by this?

Only idiocy truly bothers me. It is my life's goal to wipe it off the planet.

What also bothers me is that there are angsty NEETS out there who think they are not stupid when in reality they are stupid. Racism also offends me, partially because it is the epitome of idiocy.

I am bringing a new era of Enlightenment to Sup Forums. All you morons bound to lose.

>I am bringing a new era of Enlightenment to Sup Forums. All you morons bound to lose.

Nah, this is me. Taken this weekend.

>Given 1 and 2, it makes sense to ensure there is a conscious bias which has as it aim the offsetting of societal unconscious bias.

Except that is bullshit and can be used to justify all kinds of a retarded shit, you SJW twat.

Why should blacks be given a handicap rather than given equal footing with whites?
You have 10 seconds to give

>WAHHH WHY ARE THEY GIVING A DEMO THAT MAKES UP 50% OF THE POP 50% OF THEIR FUNDING

But they aren't 50% of applicants for film grants.

Women will actually need to make movies, though.
And most simply can't.
There are obviously few who can, but suddenly giving more women more money to "make films" doesn't mean such films will be made.

They try this shit with video games all the time, "oh I'm a lady with an idea, please kickstart my project!" or "here, we've made a fund to support women who want to make a game!"

And they either make trash or flake out on the project altogether.

You'll see a lot more "Production company swaps [Woman] for [Man] after [Movie]'s disastrous first month of shooting."

>Given (1) - from my original post - you would expect to see more equality (I am using this word to imply proportionality of representation) within the film industry. Since this is not the case, one assumes there is unconscious - and again I stress that word, it's very important - bias within the system itself. In other words, the market dictates what will be made.

OR, more whites are interested in making movies than blacks.

Did you ever consider that?

Jew referendum when?

>Why should blacks be given a handicap rather than given equal footing with whites?
You have 10 seconds to give

I will give.

Until such a day as the socialist utopia you speak of has been achieved, comrade, something which I will with all my heart, there need to be some practical measures taken. Only by doing can we enact being. Doing something like this - positive discrimination, if you will - is part of the process towards being in a society which doesn't need such artificial methods to ensure equality.

>People actually defending blatant discrimination against whites and men ITT.

I thought you faggots stood for "equality"?
I guess blatant discrimination is OK so long as it fucks whites and men, though, right? Fuck the white cis-patriarchy!

>Doing something like this - positive discrimination, if you will

Did you mean "discrimination"?

There's no such thing as "positive discrimination", you ass-backwards racist.

>positive discrimination

It's not racism if they already have legal equality
It's ableism because they're mentally retarded

Yes I did, and did you ever consider why that might be the case? Could there - just imagine it! - be an argument to be made that this is a circular process, based on lack of representation creating cinema as a realm beyond which it is reasonable for a black person to aspire to?

In other words, maybe it is no 'brute fact' - if it is indeed a fact - that black people lack the same desires as white people. If something appears unobtainable you would be forgiven, as a culture, for retreating from that world as a mode of ego-preservation.

Let them waste their money. It isn't equality when they have to forcefully make everything for their agenda. Maybe there isn't film being made with this criteria because not every black female woman want to be in films??? Could it possibly be that???

Yes. Let me reiterate for all of you who feel the desire to respond without, clearly, having put in the work to read my posts. There is UNCONSCIOUS discrimination. The only cure is CONSCIOUS discrimination. I think it's justifiable to call it positive discrimination, however, given that it discriminates in favor of those typically, normally, discriminated against. What do you call it when a negative turns into its opposite? Positive? Call it what you want, words are words.

>The only cure is CONSCIOUS discrimination. I think it's justifiable to call it positive discrimination, however, given that it discriminates in favor of those typically, normally, discriminated against.

What hashtags should I search on tumblr to find your blog?

Ah, the discrimination is intangible and unquantifiable, only visible to the oppressed.

How convenient.

Not true, you don't understand the context in which I used the word unconscious. It is very tangible and quantifiable. Look at the heads of state, of business, of most powerful positions. You would have to be really dunder-headed not to see the pattern.

I agree, fuck meritocracy. What's it ever achieved anyway?

>Unconscious structural bias

I like how you're saying that it's a conspiracy NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH

I bet you think I'm a white male too.

>Call it what you want, words are words
>you don't understand the context in which I used the word
What are you even doing?

>There is UNCONSCIOUS discrimination. The only cure is CONSCIOUS discrimination

This is like second rate Freud trash that even he would object to. Go back to tumblr with this stupidity

>Could there - just imagine it! - be an argument to be made that this is a circular process, based on lack of representation creating cinema as a realm beyond which it is reasonable for a black person to aspire to?

Probably not, because that sounds retarded.

How about you just let people like what they like and lack interest in what they lack interest in?

Obama is president tho.

> Let's dedicate 50% of our budget to 13% of female directors
> The other 50% will go to the remaining 87% of male directors
> That seems reasonable, equal and fair

I'd make a joke about the UK but Canada is doing the same thing...

>There is UNCONSCIOUS discrimination.

You keep saying this like it's fact.

Can you prove that this supposed "UNCONSCIOUS discrimination" exists and isn't just another nebulous boogeyman for idiots like you to justify cockamamie anti-equality legislation?

Is it possible races have differing intelligence, and achievement discrepancies are not caused by phantom discrimination?

#idiotsgettingtold
#toostupidtocomprehendmyarguments

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>you're saying that it's a conspiracy NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT

but he never said that, you silly double-nigger

Deconstruction at a pace too fast for your measly mind.

Alternatively, maybe you could apply your brain and realise that I am not saying words mean nothing and require no context but that precisely the meaning of the word is purely its context. I will not explain how I have demonstrated this this time, try to work it out and respond with your answer.

>White people are successful.
>Therefore, there is a MASSIVE INVISIBLE RACIST CONSPIRACY AFOOT!

You see this? This is why people don't take your shit seriously.

Stop being angry that whites are successful and then "getting back at them" by endorsing legislation that discriminates against whites.

Again you're talking about equality of outcome not equality of opportunity.

What's wrong with more men than women studying politics? What's wrong with more women than men studying nursing? What's wrong with more women than men studying veterinary medicine? The answer to all three is: nothing.

It's down right weird to expect equal representation everywhere. The film industry is a business and art form, not a social service.

>Look at the heads of state

Yeah, it's not like America has a black president or something.

Why don't you? This is far more a point about how you morons feel the need to get triggered by this kind of shit. I'm being purely reactionary.

Wait who forced you to post? Clearly you're busy not giving a shit about any of this, and you've been forced to take time out from that to point out how I should also not be giving a shit.

You're a trite person.

Well there is, technically. But it's not in the Ebil Corporate White Males.

It's the Market.

Nobody gave a fuck about Dope, or Selma, or Dear White People.

Bit you know what movies they did watch? The Revenant, Pacific Tim and Gravity.

The problem is "black directors" are too politically aligned to make movies anyone will like. Kevin Hart and Ice Cube make better movies that the market likes.

>It's down right weird to expect equal representation everywhere.

Not him, but why ? you'd expect a group that form x% of the population to have a x% representation about everywhere you look.

Name one movie made by the BFI since 2003.

>This is far more a point about how you morons feel the need to get triggered by this kind of shit.

Liberals saying they want "equality" and then participating in active discrimination, and us calling bullshit on it, isn't getting "triggered".

Holy shit, why are you running damage-control this hard?
Why are you so obsessed with defending this retarded legislation? Are you paid by the State to do this?

It's an interesting point. I think the reason it matters is because of the assumption, made by probably all non-racists, that if there were genuine equality there would also be equality of outcome. Trying to reverse-engineer this really is troubling and shouldn't have to happen, but I really cannot think of a better immediate solution. But the idea is that via enforcing equality of outcome, this will begin a chain which will eventually lead to equality of opportunity.

Well, you tried.

Gay Niggers From Space

Creed did pretty well.

>Not him, but why ? you'd expect a group that form x% of the population to have a x% representation about everywhere you look.

Apparently you know dick about statistics.

That's NEVER how it breaks down in ANY demographic.
There are always outliers and discrepancies based on personal interests.

Smart people understand that that is how statistics work.
Idiots see it as evidence of evil conspiracies (but only ones targeted at disenfranchising minorities).

>white women

You mean jewish women, right?

>Look at the heads of state

As elected by the majority female voters.

The aim of the funding is specifically for them, and then women in general.

Or it will irreparably damage and subvert equality of opportunity, for reasons that should've been obvious to you as you were typing that post, because you've already identified them. I think you just haven't wrapped your head around what it actually means.

How fucking butthurt are you that you typed this out?

You're this fucking salty because someone challenged your full-retard conspiracy-theory that discrimination is justified based on your insistence that a nebulous boogeyman makes it reasonable?

No one is saying there is an evil conspiracy. Let's take a moment to quote from myself, in this very fucking thread:

>There is therefore no moral consideration made by any individual within the system, but in order to serve its profit motive there will be an unconscious bias.

No evil conspiracy, just the movement of capital.

The problem is to them "Equality of Outcome" means: 50/50 Black/White Male/Female.

They could give a fuck less about Latinos or Asians. Or even fucking ARABS.

As much as the Socialists love to tote around their #NotAllMuslims hashtags the BBC has far more Blacks than Arabs.

Xe's most likely one of those poor brainwashed kids on a Social Justice course.
Probably screen capping every post to get it's degree.

The problem with liberals is that they were raised to have a faith based belief that humans are a blank slate with no genetic differences in ability or behaviour.

This is a central pillar of leftist dogma and they are unwilling to reconsider it.

Everything for them is filtered through the lens of equal potential.

So they end up seeing invisible demons everywhere. And then they go on holy quests to exorcise the demons they call "privilege", "discrimination", "patriarchy", etc.

Prove it, libshit.

maybe they should've done more movies that were good?

This.

Liberalism isn't a political-philosophy. It's a religion. It has been for decades.

Hell, they believe women can magically be born in the body of a man, and they turn back into a woman if they cut their dick off, so no shit they believe in retarded magical bullshit like "wage gaps" and an invisible conspiracy to keep blacks from making movies.

maybe they were good but people just didnt bother to tune in and watch

You would only expect that if you wrongly believe that everyone has equal ability and equal behaviour.

Starting with that false premise causes you to come to false conclusions.

What you need to do is reconsider your faith in equal potential. Then you can begin to understand why Blacks are more violent and less successful (HINT: genetics).

then it could'nt have been good

Man, I grew up liberal, but I'm drifting further and further away from it as the years go by. There's just too much of this kind of thing. "Let's consider ANY POSSIBLE ANSWER except for the obvious one that's right in front of us."

And it's starting to become clear to me that liberal economic policies don't actually help the poor, it actually KEEPS them poor and dependent on the government.

But it's not like the Republicans are any better. America really is kind of fucked