Why does David Fincher's movie "Seven" age so well? aka it doesn't even age, it looks like it was made today...

Why does David Fincher's movie "Seven" age so well? aka it doesn't even age, it looks like it was made today. How did they do this in 1995?Other 90s movies look so old-school now.

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post other old movies that ages well visually.

I wish I could say Terminator 2 aged well but the CG ruins it.

Terminator 2 still looks great but when you watch it you instantly see the 90s in front of you.

It's strange but the movie seven really does not reflect any generation, so that makes it feel like it was made today.

Because Fincher is technically great and always nails aesthetics.

I prefer Zodiac though. Feels like a more mature, less sensationalised version of Seven - which is still also great.

Fincher and his cinematographer Darius Khondji were ahead of their time.

This movie will never look old.

Raiders of the Lost Ark looks like it could have been made yesterday, though it's been 35 years.

Indy getting shot at 5:05 here (youtube.com/watch?v=F1ZyHNmb1yU) looks better than anything you'd find in a modern day counterpart.

Great directors usually create a timeless quality in their work.

The Godfather is another great example.

Are you replying to your own posts?

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>The Godfather is another great example.
I have to disagree on this one.
While the cinematography is impressive, many other aspects feel very old.

Specially the sound in Godfather didn't age well, it's very dusty and worn out.

sadly I do.
I'm trying to warm up this thread.

It's really hard to get these type of thread into attention since the general /tv user only cares about capeshit and shitposting threads.

So yea, I admit, I'm talking to myself the entire time, in hopes that people come here to talk about cinema(tography)

the cinematography in this film is some of the best I've ever seen. The compositions and lighting are just fucking top notch.

The fact that there was a whole wave of dark modern detective stories that came after it made it age. The edginess doesn't seem so sharp today.

>It's really hard to get these type of thread into attention since the general /tv user only cares about capeshit and shitposting threads.

Yeah I know.

But you can nurse a thread without literally replying to yourself like a spastic.

>art school fag reporting in

fincher approaches alot of scenes with painting style composition and setdesign. this makes them much more timeless

Because bleach bypass
And the digital transfers are really good

this

Film would be great if it had a better actor than Brad Pitt instead.

Why do Fincher films look so comfy?

highly recommended to watch the making of tgwtdt. literally every single little item is arranged for the composition - you can pause fincher movies at almost every scene and you got a beautifully composed painting.

what the fuck?

He gets shown up really badly in the car scene with Spacey and Freeman. He's just not on their level.

Fincher almost always gets good performances from his actors but Pitt is only serviceable in Seven.

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this is the best answer.

The color grading with bleach bypass made many movies timeless.

Seven, Private Ryan, Minority Report.

it's a great technique.

We need to unlock the blueprint to Fincher's movies. Wtf makes them so instantly comfy?

pure /rainydaycore/

I want to highfive the guy that did the subtitles.

edgy as fuck

Agree, he's good at the cocky part of the character but is pretty weak at the emotional/intense stuff.

dno wtf yall crackers on about

pitt was dope in this

only movie he stood out in a bad way was inglorious basterds... wtf they were thinking with that casting choice - we'll never know

Pfttt Hahaha

No he was not "dope". He lacks the nuance that other actors have. And it's not just because of the character he's playing.

His role in Inglorious is supposed to be comedic.

another movie that looks like it was made today is fight club
i work in cg visualization and the 3d scenes blew my mind for how good they looked, better than some trash i see these days

2001

he was pretty dope tho

Blade Runnier is still stunning

Fincher is very responsible with special effects.

youtube.com/watch?v=-sZS8OVyVr4

Not the only Kubrick movie, Barry Lyndon just gets better and better as resolutions and screen technology progresses. It is a real postcard movie.

Barry Lyndon looks great and perfectly captures the renaissance look in film
But I will always maintain that 2001 looks better overall

Because the characters were wearing timeless clothes. Suit and tie, and prison attire.

good point

looks like Fury Road except shittier

>mfw you will never see the "dead dog in the box"- ending

telegraph.co.uk/film/Seven/alternative-endings/

Burn in hell.

Gattaca still looks fantastic because they added the barest of sci-fi touches to locations that look timeless. As far as I'm aware some of those locations have been used in other films too.

>top right
hnnggg
makes me wanna go out and shoot tonight, sadly it's pouring rain

goddamn that is a nice transfer

friendly reminder that it was shot entirely with natural/candle light

>based on the seven deadly sins of the Bible
What a dumb bitch. The seven deadly sins do not exist in the bible. They were made famous by Dante Aligheiri in the epic poem, The Divine Comedy.

Agreed 100%
Now with digital grading embraced by the industry this photo-chemical technique has mostly disappeared unfortunately.

Khondji did the same on alien 4 btw. I know that movie is disliked, but it's cinematography is pretty amazing for it's time still, particularly the action scenes.

oh wow

kek

true but there's more:

the city is never named
it's raining during the entire movie until the last scenes with john doe
No brands, no adverts, no fashion trends

Fincher made all these choices on purpose, it was shot in LA but he would ask his crew to take out the spanish written road signs for instance to blur the location for the viewers.
Smart genius mofo

its fine user

give up user

If you know about men's dress clothing you can easily tell what decade the clothing is from by the width and style of the necktie and jacket lapel, along with the overall suit cut and style. All of these clearly place places the costuming in the mid 90s, but you're right, to the layman the suit hasn't changed at all between 1900 and now, for all intents and purposes

>grandpa, why do you like these old 2d movies? they look so flat.

Aside from the technical aspects of its cinematography, it's art direction/style doesn't contain any specific things that can identify it really.

There are plenty of films out there that are just so aesthetically tied to their decades/eras its hard to see past it.

>2d
These whores are still 3d though user

It's amazing how the same director made both the best and the worst serial killer movies.

It would be better in 3d, 48 fps but somehow is still good.

Fincher managed to work around the limitations of that age flawlessly.

>best and the worst serial killer movies
zodiac was awesome, what are you talking about?

Subtle

Lighting and manual color correction

21 years is not a particularly long time, OP. Give it another 20, or 40, and see what you think. Perhaps you will have nostalgia goggles, or perhaps it will still look pretty good to most. It certainly has an interesting premise and conclusion, with a bunch of A-listers, so this should secure its place.

There are certain anachnonisms, however. Mills speaks of a "hidden library list", which we know today as the NSA. The mere act of visiting a public library to photocopy books is somewhat of an anachronism, as well. And the Cliffs Notes have a distinctly 90's look to them, as you'd expect. Furthermore, a typewriter is an absurdity even in 1995, shoehorned in to suggest "timelessness" I suppose, but the typewriter is a stretch even then.

Se7en's aesthetic, then, is two things: it is postmodern, and it is also following closely following established norms for what noir and detective movies are supposed to do, be, look like. The dingy, humble municipal office, the mean streets, the mystery, the chase, the literal fedora. Two other films which make this intentional eclecticism about the period of their props are pulp fiction (another postmodern film), and more recently, It Follows, which seeks to recapture a certain 1970s horror mood, albeit with modern-tier props like that one girl's clamshell e-reader.

I'm a massive fucking pleb, but after reading those "alternative endings", I'm glad the studio forced Fincher to have that Hemingway quote at the end. To me, it's beautiful.

> i'm an art school student
Most directors or cinematographers use composition. That's not what makes a movie timeless. Finchers films age so well because his style is very minimalistic, clean and geometrical/symmetrical. And right now there is a huge trend towards those aesthetics. Though fincher probably played a huge role in setting that trend. Just look at all the "arthouse horror" movies. Mommy, the invitation and even ex machina.

I don't recall any treatments of an alternate ending (save one which I'll mention below), but I also like the quote at the end and think it was a "fine" coda.

It sounds like the filmmakers were just understandably resentful of this producer's note blunting the completion of their vision slightly. But I think the quote works in context. The jaded Morgan Freeman character continues his existential fight, but he has received total vindication that the world is not a "fine" place, which the whole atmosphere of the film has been building towards. Freeman's cynicism is vindicated in this case, in a way that it just wasn't for the various cynicisms of the characters of Alien^3, which I wrote about earlier today in another thread still active as I write.

The original ending(?) treatment sounds interesting, though. Mills simply shoots Doe as per the final cut, and we FADE to the binocular view with the SWAT team's panicked voice focused on Mills, walking away from the scene. "SOMEBODY CALL SOMEONE!" A beat of silence. -ROLL CREDITS.

Oh, fuck you.

Fucking kek