Anyone else think Han Solo's death was done terribly...

Anyone else think Han Solo's death was done terribly? Not only was it terribly executed and pathetic Its also done in poor taste. A son killing his father in cold blood? Even in the Original trilogy they ever done anything this distasteful. Did Disney forget this movie was mostly marketed for kids and how seriously they take movies. What if some kid hates father and gets infatuated with this movie and decides he wants to kill his father because maybe he associated with kylo ren and had a terrible father growing up.

I just think a son killing his father is a little extreme and is not in the same morality of the original Star Wars trilogy. Yes Vader killed Obi wan but but Ben let his guard down in a duel and plus they were not related. Luke killed Vader but only because he was already dying.

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Han Solo is like what, 75? And Kyo Ren is like what, 25? So Han Solo had him when he was 50, is that why he's so messed up? Bad genes from old parents?

It was terribly done. His death served no narrative purpose and was only for shock value. JJ has even admitted to this.

>His death served no narrative purpose

It helped to further Kylo's dark side training

The whole movie was done terribly.

>bringing back old characters who had happy endings just to ruin their lives
>not establishing the republic at all
>First Order is just a smaller Empire with somehow more resources

>Evil is distateful

>JJ has even admitted to this.
>author intent
nice meme

I didn't really see the point in it myself though. but really though OP are you serious, if some kid identifies with a fucking space ninja with magic powers the movie is at fault? I don't think so

He should have been Han Solo's grandpa I guess, but Ford looked very alert in the scene.

It would have been nice if Han had a conversation with Rey about his son, or if Kanjiklub had killed him instead.

Maybe the Scottish guy was a standin for Kylo?

*grandson

>What if some kid hates father and gets infatuated with this movie and decides he wants to kill his father
News flash: that already happened. Can't find the link but some guy killed his dad after believing the movie was speaking to him. Poor mixed up kid didn't realize Kylo Ren is actually a personal attack on me

Kylo ren is 30

My friend tried telling me recently that there's some kind of theory that Han hit the on switch on the lightsabre and did himself.

Anyone else hear this stupid shit?

JJ blew the scene. Could you imagine if Han had peeled off the sword and looked him dead in the eye and simply said, "I love you." And Kylo says, "I know."

That would be really creepy considering that it was already used in a romantic context before.

Can you imagine if Kylo Ren sliced Han Solo's head off? People would be like WHAT THE FUCK, DID YOU JUST FUCKING DO THAT IN A STAR WARS MOVIE, WHAT THE FUCK DISNEY!!!!!!

It was a cheap attempt at a WOW factor for the movie, and since the movie just went full downhill after the famous laser beam frozen by the force, when this scene took place it's when it hit me like a bowcaster, whatever little magic Star Wars had was gone. Whatever they do after this, it doesn't matter, it's going to be shit. It was distasteful and the last nail in the coffin for me.

I thought it sucked.
They should have killed him in the 2nd movie, because right now it's like:

>''Han Solo! hey old friend!''
>OMG Han solo is his father!
>oh noes!! Han solo is murdered by his son!

I mean common, why did they have to rush it so much

If he was gonna just milk the originals, fucking drop the hacking and start mackin'.

Be cool if Zack Snyder and JJ Abrams could interview each other and then ISIS bombs them or something. Kind of a 2 for 1.

it was good since Kylo is a rare villain who's not naturally evil and is fighting against his better nature to try and achieve his bad goals, and there was legit tention if you hadn't been spoiled since you could see how conflicted Kylo was throughout the movie and might have very well given in to Han and gone home with him

keep in mind in the original star wars vader tortures his own daughter and then genocides an entire planet

Kylo is about 30 and Han is probably about 65 or so.

>OMG Han solo is his father!
but that's revealed in the first 15 minutes

I'll tell you what's unforgivable in this movie. Her husband's killed on a mission with his old, dear friend Chewbacce and a couple of literally-who's, and when they return, who does Leia hug for comfort and consolation?

Literally Rey Who.

Chewie gets no medal when they free her and blow up the Death Star, Chewie gets no consolation after losing his best friend. Fuck the droids. People in Star Wars are Wookieists.

i blame the illuminati meme. in order to sell your soul to satan snoke, first you must be willing to sacrifice a family member. i agree that it was tacky. i wanted to see solo not go out like a bitch. i mean he's han fucking solo. coincidentally he died like a bitch like how he killed boba fett (inb4 boba survived). he and chewbacca dying together in the falcon sacrificing themselves to save the rebel alliance would have been more fitting. they died like heros. together. it's depressing seeing chewbacca by himself. it just doesn't feel right.

in Ep. 4 Vader accidentally kills that rebel guy by choking him to death, so it wasn't intentional
in Ep. 4 Vader kills Obi-Wan in cold blood, that was the only fucked up kill but Obi-Wan's ghost forgives him in Ep. 6 so it's cool.
in Ep. 5 Vader kills Admiral Ozzel and Captain Needa because they are incompetent, cold but they were bad guys anyway, so who cares, right?
in Ep. 6 Vader actually only kills The Emperor.

So, the moral ground was much more cleaner in the OT. in the prequels Anakin goes apeshit, killing sand people women and children, kills younglings, slaughters the trade federation aliens, decapitates dooku, obi-wan cuts his limbs off and leaves him to die. lucas lost his damn mind with the prequels trying to be an edgy tryhard.

Can you imagine if they actually tried to add good commentary?

>Uhh, did you just try to impale me wih a lightsaber? The fuck... You're supposed to be my son, not a sith lord.

>forgetting Disney is run by jews

that would have been wayyyy too fucking dark
han's death in particular felt pulled back, as did most of the movie, a bunch of punches they pulled back on

Yes it was so obvious that Ren was going to do it and him being his son just felt unneeded.

kek

Of course it was, everyone brushed it off to pottery like ben kenobi before him, fast-paced, action oriented etc. except the difference is when ANH was released that was the only appearance of kenobi at the time, the audience wouldn't have been as emotionally invested as say, Han Solo, but it was so predictable and poorly excecuted that no one gave a fuck, in fact when i was in theatre my normie friends talked about how if Han didn't die then the movie would've been pretty bad , there's no stakes, just like the MCU, fuck disney so much. Lucas himself thinks the movie is bad, that's a clear indicator of shitty pottery.

the movie is total fucking garbage

What would have George done?

This.

The lazy reboot was what pissed me off, instead of dedicating more time to how the galaxy had evolved in the time between the OT and now. The New Republic being a footnote that gets annihilated somehow and all their main planets are within visibility of each other in the sky.

Agreed. It was predictable and shit.

Everything in that movie was done terribly. It literally does not have a single redeeming factor.

No, no one ever thought that. You're the first. So original. Before you, everyone thought it was cinematic genius.

Nobody wanted more shitty prequel world building though.

create an optimistic, introspective skywalker soap opera without new order/kylo ren and none of this angsty contrived bullshit

>Nobody wanted more shitty prequel world building though
I did, you fucking hack fraud redditor

>this movie was mostly marketed for kids
No, it was mostly marketed for manchildren.

>What if some kid hates father and gets infatuated with this movie and decides he wants to kill his father
Your reasoning made me throw up a little inside my mouth.

I would have much rather they'd built a new world than just rehash the same one from the OT.

>Ben let his guard down
no he didn't
it was suicide by Sith

apparently what ever he had planned was really fucking horrible for them to make TFA instead

The only good bit about that entire shitty sequence was Chewie going ape shit. Reminded me of Han's reaction to Chewie's death in the original expanded universe. He literally spends a year in depression and goes on a roaring rampage of revenge.

It's not stupid. And it makes sense with the dialog. Han knows what needs to be done to either push kylo Further into the dark side and guarantee his survival. Or he lives and his son fails his master, and has not killed han, realizing or releasing his hate.
Tl;dr: if he doesn't kill han, Han wins.
If he does kill han, he becomes more powerful than ever, having a self loathing of killing his father, then goes on to destroy the dark side and eventually himself in insanity.

hold on a minute, you can't criticize this movie as potentially affecting kids enough to make them kill their fathers and then complain about shit like ESRB ratings and Antia Sarkeesian on Sup Forums meme wars crossposter

>His death served no narrative purpose
>What if some kid hates father and gets infatuated with this movie and decides he wants to kill his father
>Kylo killed Han in cold blood

The fuck am I reading??

I don't know about all that shit but it was definitely a stupid scene that could have been done far more effectively.

That's the dumbest shit I've ever read, kill yourself.

How? Argue against me. Tell me how han sacrificing himself doesn't fit the dialog?

Sup Forums being stupid as usual

it was hamfisted. Anyone could see it a mile away, it wasn't a twist or a shocking moment.

The biggest mistake is not showing any of the relationship or past of either Ren or Han. We don't feel anything for their relationship because we don't know what it is.

Han stole much needed screentime from the new characters 2bh. Fuck him.

If you look into the context, Kylo presented as an autistic manchild with anger issues, his parents going separate and Han Solo being a real alpha pussy magnet in his time, you can see this as a symbol of broken nu males brought up to become sjw manginas by single moms lashing out against true masculinity.