Post your major political parties
Post your major political parties
I also forgot to mention the Green Party and the Libertarian Party.
Out of these the Libertarians received around 4% of the popular votes and the Greens received 1%
Bump.
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If Conservatives hate immigration how can they also support gay marriage?
The Lib Dems are better than both tbqh senpai
They're Right wing economically and left wing socially
kys
>an in/out EU referendum in 2017
didn't you already have like 3 of those?
are you not leaving already?
what the fuck inglan
That must be pretty nice.
They are fucking horrible I wish they never existed.
>High as fuck Immigration
>fucking up brexit
>"""Civics""""
>foreign aid out fucking everywhere
>pensioners getting fucked
could go on
This was from the election of 2015
Brits have an election every five years like Canada.
I thought they were against immigrants?
>in out
We had one fucking argy
No they love them, They just love them a little less than Labour. Think a tad better than the democrats in the US
That depends though.
Democrats can be anywhere on the left spectrum from Bernie to Bill Clinton.
Hillary Tier Loves Immigrants. It's a bit different because we are not 60% white and connected to """mexico"" so if we find an illegal immigrant in the country they cant get citizenship no matter what. But otherwise they encourage immigration and asylum seekers, eastern europoorz etc
So literally nothing changes immigration wise.
ok I'm sorry for not being up to date with british politics you filthy, smelly pirate.
Yep the only reason theyre support is not through the roof in the UK is because they are soft on immigrants
What are the major parties in Argentina?
That's the thing about it here..
Republicans are literally right on everything and Democrats are left on everything.
Pathetic bump.
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Wow.
Conservatives are more right then those in Britain?
they're always changing because smaller parties ally and gain a lot of approval rating and whatnot.
but generally there's 3:
Peronistas - PJ (Partido Justicialista[unironically social justice party]) they favor working class people
radicales - these are lefties but not commies
random conservative party, right now Cambiemos (they're currently ruling the country, neoliberal views)
there's a shitload more, based on communism or even some nazism and some really random ones that are actually funny, but they never get more than 1-2% votes.
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Surprisingly, yes.
So PJ is Pro-Workers
Radicle are a leftists but not far-left
Conservatives are neoliberals.
They're neocons and for this guy to be on Harper's knob I assume he's a cuckbertan.
Could you explain the biggest ones to me?
Libertarians are crazy here
They think the Constitution is a bible.
Rand Paul is based though.
essentially, yes.
PJ and Radicales are always there, the rest change all the time and make like alliances or whatever, it's complicated.
in 1999 one of those alliances won the election (party called literally Alliance) and they were the ones ruling during the 2001 crisis and left half-way through their mandate.
since 2003 we had the Kirchners (PJ) and last year the neoliberals took over (Macri).
kys
>Abortion, gay marriage and gun control
How about taxes, jobs and medical care?
Fucking pointless issues always dominate politics
>Political parties have stylized brand names
This seems like a very American thing to do but nobody has ever bothered to do it here
Well that's because republicans say things like government can't create jobs and then immediately say Trump will bring back jobs. While dems claim to be sceptical and then nominate Hillary.
I thought free healthcare was viewed as a "commie" measure in the states and therefore no party was ever going to implement it.
I mean it's fucking retarded because it literally isn't anywhere else, but you know.
I'm convinced that all Americans are crazy wingnuts regardless of their political affiliation.
Libertarians here are just normal people who think that government should limit it's involvement in things that it doesn't really need to be involved in.
>thought free healthcare was viewed as a "commie" measure in the states and therefore no party was ever going to implement it.
We have Medicare/Medicaid for poor and old people. Democrats are too spineless to try to increase the Medicare tax and cover everyone with it so Obama came up with a colossal piece of shit instead called the ACA
At least post the original.
That's not true. Libertarians here have an inferiority complex and try to out crazy american ones in order to compensate. Sovereign citizen retards getting weird nods comes to mind.
right wing economics and left wing socially creates nightmares and globalism.
The best is right-but-not-neoliberal-right economics and centrist socially
neoliberalism can go off itself
>anime
immoral
Women in Canada are equal in every institutional and measurable way. Maybe government needed to be involved in women's advocacy years ago, but it is no longer necessary, these sorts of measures are meant to be temporary and there is nothing wrong with shifting focus elsewhere once the problems have been corrected.
ok, but I meant universal healthcare, like free stuff.
I can go to any hospital for whatever reason and I will never ever be charged.
wether is to get checked for a cold or to get a heart transplant, you just get it, for free.
sure, that kinda ups the taxes, but whatever, it's not that much and it's an unbelievable benefit.
why is that seen as a commie thing?
it's only logical to be able to offer free medical treatment to your people.
conservative capitalists around the world agree with universal healthcare, except in the USA.
it's fucking stupid
Made a quick compass for the UK in 2017, rate it
shit
It's really not. I mean I suppose you can do mental gymnastics or accept it as compromise but the notion runs counter to the ideology you claim to represent.
IIRC most women advocacy group's in Canada that get this kind of funding focus on Aboriginal communities.
not him but our issue is that everyone is too much of a fucking to make the debt go from 0 to 6*10^1,000,000,000 because we don't want our debt to GDP ratio to be Italy and Japan tier
The major difference between us and you guys is the sheer amount of people we would have to serve. Combined with the automatic spending (meaning we literally are required to spend and we can't just not spend on it due to laws) from Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security, there just isn't enough money to do it.
Ahh yes the issues that matter
fuck off tim farron the dickhead
The problem is that Medical research in mostly done in the US, and new drugs are costly, so the American taxpayer would have to bear the full brunt of the costs due to the fact that they're being produced within the country as opposed to abroad. It'd be a 10% hike in everyone's taxes for not enough benefit for the vast majority of people that use the system.
no it doesn't.
it's health.
I understand if morons don't want to pay higher taxes for free universities, they don't want to pay for other people's education, but health is something that should be a given, in literally any kind of system and ideology.
I'm no Liberal, son
Democrats and Republicans only really differ on idpol. Most of the rest is a consensus with varying degrees in intensity, Libertarian and Green Party are meme parties the former with educated hicks and the latter with burnt out hippies and some fed up Dems.
even if we raise taxes to Europe levels we would not be able to afford universal healthcare in the style of Europe without our debt ballooning.
We can do it through other means though although I'm not sure what because the best bet was gutted by Obama being a massive pussy in legislation
Look guy the ideology is clearly defined. It violates the principle of letting the market sort it out and it also puts the government in a greater position of power.
what the fuck are you talking about
you can't afford universal healthcare?
how is that? I seriously don't understand. it sounds a bit like an excuse to be honest.
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>Republicans are literally right on everything and Democrats are left on everything.
Wish there was more actual variation in the spectrum for political parties, not just extremes.
This makes party support so hard in elections. Personally by all my beliefs I fall on the liberal side pretty much entirely but I also find that I also don't agree with the crazy extremes that the liberal parties here have. Like I didn't support the cessation of the ISIS bombing campaign for Canada, they need to be eliminated and us backing out of the coalition made us look terrible.
Also the refugee wave. I sympathize but I have to put my home first on my priorities and this country is doing pretty bad economically and we did not have the luxury of funding for welfare and social programs to take on the refugees, we're burning money we don't have taking them. If any money was to be spent regarding, I'd rather it be a short term funding setting up support and shelter for them in their own countries than taking them here and adding a life long cost to this country.
The only way to avoid these is support for the opposite extreme, the Conservative party. Which is basically the polar opposite of my beliefs on many other subjects than the ones above. So I am sitting with 3 parties to choose from that all have a couple things I love and a bunch I hate and I just feel like it's hopeless.
Because if we covered the last 10-15% of Americans then the entire international pharmaceutical industry would collapse killing most of the planet.
Yep
America already spends the most of any country in the world on healthcare, both in real terms and as a percentage of GDP
It's insane when they say they can't afford it
isn't it funny? poor hell holes have universal coverage and the wealthiest countries have it and we don't yet pay the most in the world
>Women in Canada are equal in every institutional and measurable way. Maybe government needed to be involved in women's advocacy years ago, but it is no longer necessary
Fucking Christ this. I am so tired of seeing womans advocacy groups that are focusing on Canadian women who already have every fucking right and opportunity in the world open to them. They can literally do anything in this country, and in many other western countries too.
Fuck off to Africa and the Middle East and help the women there, they actually could use your help. But nope, that's too scary and hard.
I just explained it to you. 10% of the population would benefit to implement a plan that would be designed around covering 100% of it, which would destroy much of the private sector health insurers as well as lead to American pharma companies being much more strict with their funding, limiting their potential for innovation.
We need something like the German system, where everyone is required to have private insurance that's also affordable for their income level, not 100% public healthcare.
NBN stands for National Broadband Network. The Coalition won and surprise surprise, the cost and timeframe have blown out and there are huge numbers of complaints about it.
now that's being a next level retard
the government would still be paying for the medicine, pharmaceutical industry still gets the money, am I not seeing something here?
>the government would still be paying for the medicine, pharmaceutical industry still gets the money, am I not seeing something here?
I was being sarcastic.
Technically there is enough wealth physically in the US to get universal healthcare
But because FDR kicked the bucket too soon and the men who came after him were too short sighted to reform it or get rid of it like how FDR openly intended to we are legally required to spend over half of our budget on social security, medicare, and medicaid which are unironically run like Ponzi schemes except the person at the top of the scheme was mugged several times by his associates and therefore must pay out through regurgitating his own feces, meaning that rather than reforming it politicians saw that there was a large amount of money in these programs, decided that they had tons of time to fix it, and then proceeded to take money from the programs because they were """fine"""
Tl;dr there isn't enough money in the budget because we are forced to pay for our own horribly planned 1940s safety nets
Now we have Trump and formerly who both said they weren't doing jack shit about it for votes
Pic related, military is also a lot of money but cutting that by the amount we could reasonably cut it to without hurting several states economies like Connecticut would not be enough
>the government would still be paying for the medicine
Your government can do so because it gets 20 year old hand me down medicine that already went generic in the US. Hospitals here are required to stock the latest shit which is marked up to be very expensive so as to provide a return on a Pharma companies investment ASAP
you can still have the private sector health insurers.
we have them atleast, and they're very popular with the rich since you don't have to wait in hospitals next to niggers for 5 hours to get checked for your cold and such.
and I seriously doubt that only 10% of the population would benefit when you're covering 100% of it.
What the fuck is this knob talking about?
>I would be employed by this hospital and paid for my work through a tax payer funded system, I would have sick days, benefits and such but that means it's slavery.
>and I seriously doubt that only 10% of the population would benefit when you're covering 100% of it.
Only 10% of the US population isn't covered by Medical insurance, so yeah. People have the idea that 'why should we pay for something that only a minority of the population will benefit from' while they still pay for their private insurance on top of increased taxes for those that are covered by medicare/medicaid.
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>People have the idea that 'why should we pay for something that only a minority of the population will benefit from'
this is what gets to me. You're ALREADY paying for people who can't pay. In fact their lack of having any health insurance makes them more expensive when the nigs go to the ER for everything.
>People have the idea that 'why should we pay for something that only a minority of the population will benefit from'
Why is this such an issue in the US? Are you just a naturally selfish people?
I pay higher taxes thanks to our health care and have fortunately been a health person my life to date, so made little use of it. But I am glad to know anyone sick or hurt can be treated here without worry of payment.
The easy thing to do is to focus on preventative care which makes it cheaper, which is what hospitals are starting to do...
But this won't yield results for at least a decade at least, and that's being generous
No you idiot, it's that you're paying more for something you personally don't benefit from ON TOP of what you already pay. It's a bad system and is why Canadian healthcare in particular has issues that German/Netherlands healthcare doesn't like rationing and ridiculous wait times.
Not him but:
VVD: Rich people
CDA: Center everything, "christian" party
PVDA: Originally the "workers" party, now mostly caters to brown people and muslims
SP: Socialist commie party
D66: Center right? left? even they don't know
Partij van de vrijheid: Anti-EU and immigration. Wilders.
Groenlinks: Lefty green party
Christenunie: Christian party, conservative, but still socially left
SGP: Hardcore christian party, the real bible thumpers. Have no female members, because women should stay out of politics
Partij voor de dieren: Animal party, Ultra green party
We have way more, but they are mostly memes
That's so stupidly simplistic it hurts
>CDA: Center everything, "christian" party
How can a party that would be center on subjects like gay marriage also be labelled religiously to a religion opposed to such things?
KPL :Communist party
ADR:Conservative
CSV:Christian Democratic
Lsap: Socialist
Déi Gréng :Green party
Déi Lenk :General left
>We have way more, but they are mostly memes
Are you fucking telling me that huge list isn't memes? You actually have this many parties campaigning and viably placing in elections?
Jesus Christ.
Fucking Keskusta the shit smelling money jewing rural party.
That's why I wrote it as "christian". It's the kind of social christians that are indifferent or pro gay marriage, abortion, and birth control.
There are around 20 parties participating in this years election. But around 10 of those are small and most of the time new, by next election they have probably been forgotten and disbanded to make place for other meme parties.
Partij van de vrijheid sounds pretty cool.
Do they have a large following like the anti-eu parties in France and Germany?
Si
It's the third one on this list. PVV
They literally have the most members.
Holy shit so they're the biggest party?
There's hope for Netherlands.
They are the biggest in the polls, so... It could still change.
Oh yeah, also noticed the "50+" party in that diagram. It is unironically a party that caters solely to old people.
We only have one party lol.
To clarify, the grey bars is the current government, the coloured ones are polls from two different months I think.
>piraten partij
will they ever have success in any country?
But what if I go there and there are two of you and one of you is a fake who is telling me lies the whole time
so fucking stupid. No country that has universal healthcare prohibits physicians from providing care privately. 50% of Australians still have private health insurance and visit private surgeries etc..
Infact in my state there are more private hospitals than public ones. Even if you CHOOSE to be a doctor in the public system, it's a far cry from fucking slavery. Jesus libertarians are retarded.
ADR seems good.
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