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How do you guys practice writing kanji, or saying out loud the vocabs?
I need to work better on reproducing from memory instead of just recognizing, but most of the Anki decks I'm using aren't meant for that even if I reverse the cards.
Isaiah Barnes
>How do you guys practice writing kanji By writing them. >or saying out loud the vocabs Say them out loud while writing them.
Jaxson Allen
What link?
Justin Wilson
How do you review them in anki?
Austin Brown
I don't use anki.
Hudson Rogers
The one from the previous OP by that Australian twat who keeps shilling his blog.
Thomas Flores
But how would you know if you forgot a word?
Kevin Wright
If I don't recognize it when I see it, or I can't pull it out of my memory in writing or conversation, I've forgotten it.
Nolan Wright
There is no need for reproduction of kanji. It's a lot if work for very little gain. Even native people hardly ever write by hand anymore. And it will take at least twice as long to learn them, probably longer.
Knowing how to write hiragana is good enough.
Grayson Harris
Lol really, waht is it i want to see
Anthony Thomas
I always say my card out loud before pressing to show answer, so I can't cheat myself and think "hey, that's the pronunciation I was thinking about!". When you say it the sheer contrast of hearing the answer differing will give you the Right or Wrong feeling.
I wrote my Anki reps up to 7k words, but now I don't anymore, because I want to keep my daily reviews under 60 minutes and my review numbers are too high for that shit.
But it was pretty useful, I have a great deal of comfort handwriting nowadays.
I will get back to practicing writing when I study radicals and start to memorize how to write them, not only how to recognize them. Writing mindlessly during reps doesn't do much good in this stroke memorization department.
Fuck off.
Brody Phillips
Go look for yourself. There is a link to the previous OP in this OP.
Wyatt Williams
Okay, I've been doing this for about two weeks, and I guess I can now vouch for it:
If you get at least word's pronunciation OR meaning correctly, and it's a word you've just learned yesterday (meaning this is your first review of it), press space and listen to the sample sentence, without reading the answer. If you can guess its meaning, you can safely press Easy and consider it a pass.
When it shows up again 3 days later you'll end up remembering it and it helps to keep that card's ease curve not so flat from the get go, meaning it won't show up excessively and your total number of repetitions won't skyrocket as much.
I'm finally out of the 240-260 reps a day, starting to enter the 220-230 zone.
Today I had 281, but that's because I fucked up big time a while ago.
Xavier Harris
>tfw JLPTの受験番号を失った
Tyler Reyes
結果は郵便でも来るはず それまで待っとけ
Anthony Nguyen
Instead of cheating and using the program wrongly you can just mess with your interval settings to get the same effect
Dominic Phillips
今こそ見たいのに
Carter Long
No you don't. If you can't recall a word from memory through exposure alone, then you don't know that word well enough to use it anyway.
Camden Lopez
how would you say "This is my everyday life" in japanese? I Figured it would be something like "それは私の日常" but I feel like something's off.
Ayden Smith
just learn a few thousand kanji first. after that, if you erally want to write, learn radicals and start practising writting.
Owen King
desu.
I see nothing wrong here. You can try rephrasing it, but it's not wrong. 自分の日常だぜ!
Matthew Morgan
Thank you!
Adrian Perry
It's OK to use a "hint" like that now and then, but pressing easy after using it as well? I can guarantee you will forget that shit
Ayden Anderson
Sorry, I bit my tongue.
I meant Good, I'll only use Easy for Engrish words.
Levi Wright
Give me compliments and head pats for passing the N1. NOW.
Ryan Wright
>Still not Japanese equivalent of the Oxford/Cambridge Latin Courses
John Wood
congrats mr. perkele-san
Zachary Morris
You did nothing but your obligation. Don't get conceited, kid.
What would you say helped you the most in preparing? I've got N3, wrapped up all my N2 grammar points/vocab, and starting the grind on an N1 deck. Wondering if I should take N2 or just keep going until N1.
Jacob Allen
These anons failing the JLPT by 30 points or more is only reinforcing my desire to study my ass off for the JLPT even though it's only January
Question: At what point in japanese study do I start looking up JLPT prep tests? After I finish tae kim's guide or?
Grayson Brooks
>tae kim Lmao The hardest part is probably knowing enough vocab.
Anthony Ward
>these digits
Colton Bailey
i've never heard someone say "lmao" at tae kim before
is there actually a better way?
Ayden Gomez
Tae kim is fine in the beginning but won't teach you grammar above like N4 level
Julian Campbell
'lmao' as in thinking that finishing tae kim is enough to start thinking about JLPT.
You should definitely do tae kim, but that's just the start of your long journey mf.
Jason Harris
How long did it take? What did you do to get there?
Ian Jackson
Too much Sup Forumstard shit going on in that chatroom. Sorry my Spaniard friend, going to have to pass on that one.
Austin Lee
What book is recommended for above N4? Aside from the JLPT textbook in the guide ofc.
Jayden Watson
Thanks Anders.
Don't talk to me monkey.
I never took any other JLPTs so I can't really say how big the differences between levels are, but I'd say you should definitely go for the N1 if you already feel like you've got the N2 down. I was also kinda uncertain whether I shoul take N2 or N1, but because I felt that I would be sure to pass the N2 and was already partially familiar with N1 vocab and grammar, I took the leap and studied a lot and in the end passed with flying colours.
I know it's been repeated to death, but going through the Kanzen Master books will prep you a lot. Also just general reading of compelling content you like. I read the Psychiatrist Irabu series (Kuuchuu Buranko is based on those books) and Boku to Tsundere to Heidegger last fall before the test just to familiriaze me with reading something on paper without the ability to rikai everything and it must have been pretty darn effective since I got full points for reading.
Never give up user!
4 years of self study. I wasn't the most diligent, but being a huge disgusting weeaboo, I was never completely away from the language.
中級の日本語 is pretty good, it gives you balanced practice in grammar, reading and listening if you get the included CD on N3 and maybe N2 level. Also I love nihongo no mori videos on youtube, they teach grammar and listening, specifically tailored for JLPT and it helped me a lot for N2 at least: youtube.com/user/freejapaneselessons3/playlists
Gabriel Cox
My japanese friend bought me this textbook that leads directly into a N2 textbook and an N1 textbook
it's made directly in Japan
this textbook series is probably directly what i need
yeah, it skips me from >Basic greetings straight to N2 i mean what the fuck japan
Camden Moore
>中級の日本語 is pretty good Do we have that in the CoR? Do you think it would be worth adding? Also, do you mean 中級から学ぶ日本語? There is a copy of that available on yuki-nezumi's blog.
Tyler Myers
Sorry, dumb question, just started learning recently. If I wanted to say "tip-toe kiss" in Japanese would it be as simple as 蚑キス?
Jaxon Fisher
could you show me a sample page of that book please. tae kim is boring as fuck i'm looking for something different
Eli Lopez
つま先立ちキスだと思う
Colton Gomez
No, that's not the monkey. This is the monkey.
Brandon Baker
Sure, give me a second.
Noah Hill
>Fuck Sup Forums I see you're enjoying your stay here, lads
Brandon Gomez
Hello friends, I'm moving to my dad's this summer for work and was hoping I could learn japanese atleast, I have a few question mates.
>Should I start with hiragana,katakana,kanji first? >Should I start practicing how to write them first or do I practice pronunciations immediately?
>what would make learning easier? Read or Write? (i mean which do I learn first)
thank you
Jeremiah Gomez
Thank you. I appreciate it. That makes more sense than what I said.
Nathan Young
Ok, I'm grinding Kanzen Master N1 right now. I do a chapter a day and make an Anki card for each entry.
I'm reading history books from the high school library too, but I'm worried about being able to understand the test passages. A lot of the practice ones are about incredibly boring shit that only Japanese people give a fuck about, like leaves changing colors or bath etiquette and my eyes glaze over. On the N3 exam there was even an entire passage about putting trash out in the morning rather than the night before.
John Peterson
It's a bit dumb but I have been able to discuss raw manga here in these threads more than on Sup Forums. There also seems to be a lot less hostile shitposting as many of the rather aggressive autists have taken up residence in the same titled general thread on /jp/.
That phrase provided the right sort of images from a Google image search, but that doesn't mean it is accurate. You're better off using that phrase and doing further research to see if it is something Japanese actually use in reference to tip toe kissing and not something which is more of a media buzzword type phrase for TV dramas.
Nolan Jenkins
t. nigger who has clearly never lived in Japan and dealt with the mountains of papers encountered frequently maybe you want to pull out your phone every 5 minutes, but most people don't if you do RTK, writing ceases to be an issue
Ryder Hernandez
>if you do RTK, writing ceases to be an issue Then it's just an issue of handwriting. I can write Japanese but it looks like a prescription written by a doctor. I swear penmanship is harder than language learning.
Lucas Perez
Honto oishii soshite kimochi
Nathan James
Did you ever bother with stroke order?
When I first got here, the principal saw me practicing kanji at my desk. About an hour later he called me into his office and had a projector set up, and spent the next 20 minutes demonstrating stroke order. I'd been ignoring it up util then, but it was so cute for the old man to try that hard that I couldn't let him down. My handwriting unironically got better after that desu
Also I think Japanese people hold their pencils slightly differently but I never really bothered to check
This book is very engaging to me. It follows Sean, an american, on his adventure in Japan.
It's way easier to stay committed to than something like tae kim, because the activities are engaging. You can see in the picture "please try to invite a friend".
These authors know what they're doing.
Gavin Wilson
Are you meant to learn grammar and core 2k simultaneously?
Jose Wilson
>Did you ever bother with stroke order? Initially, I guess. My first experience with kanji was through RTK, so through that process I generally became familiar with how to write kanji by memory (a lot of it has gone stale due to general lack of writing these days, but it doesn't take long to get back into the swing of it) but now it's more a matter of scrawling out characters without much thought. It developed a kind of shorthand within itself. I'll have a look for my notebook which was used for kanji reps while I was writing them out for kanji reps in anki. See if I can get a decent enough photo.
No, you're meant to finish the HSC, go to uni and degree, get a 40+ hour a week job making someone else rich, shack up with some cunt and lock yourself down with the ball and chain while shitting out two and a half future tax payers.
Jeremiah Long
初回から全開でとばしまくってくれてるヒイロ君の狂態に注目
spoonfeed me this sentence like what does it mean? it's from some gundam wing japanese episode summary site.
Zachary Howard
It's really just a matter of efficiency. If you already know the language and can read is, learning how to write it easy.
But if you're new and you've got only one hour a day, there are much better things you can do with your time. It's clearly not a priority.
Besides, stroke order is pretty consistent, if you can remember what radicals a kanji is made out of, you should be able to write most kanji you already know without problems.
>Should I start with hiragana,katakana,kanji first? Read the guide
>Should I start practicing how to write them first or do I practice pronunciations immediately? Read the guide
>what would make learning easier? Read or Write? (i mean which do I learn first) Read the guide
Benjamin Long
>listening to Vocaloid in 2017
it's time to stop
Ryder Gonzalez
Why, i listen to it while lifting weights.
Samuel Taylor
>tfw liked vocaloid when i was a kid because it was an alien langauge >tfw liking vocaloid more as an adult for its actual messages unfiltered by corporations
Zachary Thomas
How hard is it to get selected for the JET program? I was told that the number of candidates that get selected depends on the year. I study Japanese in uni but I can't say shit because I'm a shitty student and I have to prioritize other subjects like English and stuff that has to do with management and law. If I try to get into the JET program, will it be just a bonus that I'm fluent in English and that I'm studying Japanese or is it absolutely necessary to be fluent in Japanese as well?
Grayson Gomez
Pretty sure you have to be native english to have a decent chance. Not saying not to give it a go thoguh
Anthony Reed
I've been told by someone who got accepted a long time ago that many of the others who got in didn't have English as their first language, including her, and that some schools were starting to teach French more and more (which is my 1st language). My problem is with Japanese.
Evan Murphy
狂態 is scandalous behaviour.
初回から全開でとばしまくってくれてるヒイロ君
A. 初回から means 'first'. B. 全開でとばす means 'at full power'. C. 初回から全開でとばす
B is a metaphorical expression from driving. アクセル全開で飛ばす means 'To drives at full throttle'. Furthermore, C is a metaphorical expression from one inning of baseball. ヒイロ君 makes his best endeavor from the beginning.
ヒイロ君の狂態に注目 Let's pay attention to Hiiro-kun's scandalous behaviour.
とばし(まくって)(くれてる) These means a double emphasis.
Ian Martin
My nakama. I thought I was getting ignored but you came through. I'm still having difficulty processing it all. If you don't mind answering, in what ways are those metaphors relevant to observations about Hiro's scandalous behavior? Is it saying Hiro goes full asshole mode(全開) in the beginning(初回)?
The double emphasis throws me off too. How are they used in the sentence.
Levi Taylor
"初回から全開でとばす" is a kind of set phrases. This is also a kind of slang.
I don't know what ヒイロ君の狂態 is. It depends on the context.
1.とばす 2.とばしまくる 3.とばしまくってくれる 4.とばしまくってくれちゃってる
I think that about 3 or later are slang. I think those auxiliary verbs have meanings little.
James Carter
とばしまくる is kind of like flaring up in a temper or sudden action/movement.
I can't decide what the meaning of that word is specifically. Because that is a metaphor.
Daniel Cox
>乗り物を速く走らせる That would fit in with >or sudden action/movement. Wouldn't it? If that's the case, I think I understand. With the metaphor of that phrase couldn't it mean that ヒイロ君 was headlong involved in what was happening?
So much of language is expressing chunks of meaning via metaphor and comparison to other sets of almost "encoded" chunks of assumed understood phraseology.
Brandon Allen
これに近い色はありますか って英語でなんていうの 化粧品屋とかで使う
Liam White
To get straight to the point, I have googled that sentence just now. Even if we continue to talk about that phrase, the result would not come out. st.rim.or.jp/~r17953/impre/Anime/Gun/W/W_1.html
I think that phrase is sometimes used for such a explanation of the story of TV program and so on. That is one of quite funny expressions. ヒイロ君 have a very strong showing probably. It is a kind of irony..
Nicholas Nelson
LEARNING JAPANESE IS ABOUT BEING A GRINDER! SOMEONE WHO FIGHTS THEIR WAY THROUGH ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY GO THROUGH! DON'T GIVE UP ON YOUR REPS! DON'T GIVE UP ON READING! DO NOT GIVE UP ON YOUR GOALS AND YOUR DREAMS!
YOU WANT TO IMPROVE YOUR READING? GRIND! YOU WANT A LARGER VOCABULARY? GRIND! YOU WANT TO LEARN JAPANESE? GRIND! IT'S ABOUT WAKING UP EARLY, STAYING UP LATE, AND DOING WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO DO TO REACH YOUR GOALS! YOU HAVE TO RISE AND GRIND!
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PUTTING IN HOURS, IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THOSE HOURS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN! YOU CAN'T BECOME GREAT UNTIL YOU FIGHT GREATNESS! YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GET THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT OUT OF JAPANESE IF YOU'RE GOING AFTER WEAK AND EASY TARGETS! YOU DON'T CLIMB A MOUNTAIN BY LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM! YOU CLIMB A MOUNTAIN BY CLIMBING TOWARDS THE SUMMIT! DON'T TRY TO AVOID THE HARD PARTS AND GO AROUND THE DIFFICULT READING MATERIAL! TAKE IT HEAD ON AND FIGHT YOUR WAY THROUGH IT!
Benjamin Russell
>IT'S ABOUT WAKING UP EARLY, STAYING UP LATE Need to sleep to maintain your gains.
Jose Ward
Right okay then. Feel like I understand it but can't really put it properly into words. Oh well, there are plenty of other things in Japanese I can understand while reading but not really put it into words in English. Maybe in another few years I'll be proficient enough to translate.
James Nelson
is there a brighter color than this one?
みたいなのは?実際通じるかしらんけど。
なにか基準になるものを指差してこれより~なものはありますかって聞くのがいいんじゃない?
Sebastian Powell
Yeah that's the site I got it from. This seems a little advanced for me right now. I'll return to this again in 3 months.
Cooper Torres
>brighter color なるほど!ありがとう!
Justin Scott
should i focus primarily on writing or speaking/hearing first?
Easton Rivera
なんで遊女wwww
Evan Johnson
How often do you guys practice Japanese?
I've been slacking on and off for about two years now. I think I'm gonna stick to 3 hours a day and hope to become fluent in 5 to 6 months.
My practice mostly consist of listening (from anime) transcribing and collecting vocab and grammar. Also reading manga and mining from there as well.
Blake Rivera
Out of how many candidates? The criteria to apply seem pretty specific so a lot of people can't even apply.
Austin Parker
>How often do you guys practice Japanese? Every day when reading manga and reviewing vocab and grammar in Anki. That's pretty much the limit of it.
