Is Colombia the economic tiger of South America?
Booming economy(highest growth in SA)
Stable currency
Highest wages and purchasimg power in SA
Constructions everwhere, from 300m skyscrapers to high speed trains
Best technical university in SA
Lots of start ups and hq of big companies(google, fb, microsoft) for latin america
Stable political system
Goverment with vision
Rapidly decreasing criminality
Unique culture
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GO COLOMBIA!
>stable political system
Wrong.
Why are you so mad, Reddit is that way
Outside the southern cone the ones that are better off are Perú then Brasil then Colombia, maybe.
This
FARC is so widespread that it probably controls 50% of the country and is so powerful that it has its own government
That's very impressive. I am supportive of the growth and success of Colombia as a nation. Hopefully Colombia will grow to be a shining paragon and assist in leading all of South America into a brighter and more prosperous future, because God knows my country is not.
any successful non-white country is successful because of white people, non-whites can't do anything for themselves because they're inferior
t. Sup Forums
Yes because they finally embraced Capitalism like every country should.
Fucking Chileans are abandoning it like a bunch of retards.
You know that's not true, Zhao Li Feng
>Is Colombia the economic tiger of South America?
No
>Booming economy(highest growth in SA)
Wrong that would be Peru and if investors choose to Argentina could be great again
>Stable currency
No, it's suffered the same devaluation as other Latin American countries
>Highest wages and purchasimg power in SA
Lol no higher wages are in Uruguay and Argentina although cost of living is really low
>Constructions everwhere, from 300m skyscrapers to high speed trains
High speed trains? You just made that up, among the shittiest roads in Latin America
>Best technical university in SA
What technical university is that mate?
>Lots of start ups and hq of big companies(google, fb, microsoft) for Latin America
Really?
>Stable political system
Lmao no they are paving the way for gommies to take over
>Goverment with vision
Literally one of the most corrupt governments
>Rapidly decreasing criminality
Only on the surface
>Unique culture
Yeah, so?
It's a nice place to live if you are wealthy or mid class. Being poor in Colombia is tough
Commie detected. Kindly fuck yourself.
>taking Sup Forums so seriously
Holy shit, are you really this insecure. Beck to Reddit you faggot
joke's on u lol I was only pretending
Please tell me that (you) wasn't meant for me.
Never post again
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>Inb4 it's le vice so ur arguement is shite xdddd
they have improved a lot but we have thousands of young Colombians in Buenos Aires because "free" University Education.
And what exactly is the problem with my post? Colombia has had the most free economy in Latin America for a while now, and it's benefited them tremendously.
They're doing well but I[d say the real dark horse so far is Peru, they have low key advanced greatly. If I was an investor that's the country in South America I'd go with.
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That's your fault for having a system that everyone can take advantage of and not only Colombians do that but literally everyone of the continent
Are they all black? I met tons of colombians when I lived in NY and none of them were black, but some user from chile posted colombians in chile and they were all black lol, really made me think.
tell that to australia and their $18 minimum wage :^)
Peru is the country that grows the most in South America, then Colombia. Other shitholes grow less or are in recession.
it is, Colombia has been the most democratic South American country for the past century. Other Sudacas had dictatorships, we didn't.
I have never seen a black Colombian, which is funny because Chileans complain about them a lot here, Colombians here tend to be mainly Spanish mestizos, kinda like the soccer player James.
And yes, we are the welfare state of the rest of South America with no reciprocity whatsoever.
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>Welfare state
Well there's your fucking problem. Maybe if you dumbasses would adopt capitalism, you'd be on part with Western countries.
>Wrong that would be Peru and if investors choose to Argentina could be great again
it could be, the fact is that this year Colombian economy will most likely grow more.
>High speed trains? You just made that up, among the shittiest roads in Latin America
there are plans for several suburban train, metro and urban train systems. Also no country is investing so much in roads in SA.
>Colombia has had the most free economy in Latin America for a while now
in some very specific items, yes. Overall, Peru and Chile have a more free economy. Then comes Colombia.
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Argentina is 100x better than your shitty country
Also criminals
>tfw no novio colombiano
This is how argentina looks today
Tu no sabes nada pero muchos espanioles cuando se refieren a sudacas es a venezuela y colombia principalmente
La cantidad de criminales bandas latinas en Espania son de tu pais o centro america
The thing with Peru is that is evolving faster than everyone but it used to be a pretty poor country so their starting point was pretty low, we will probably get on the same level and keep moving at the same speed in some years
Also this thread will probably end up as shitposting fest since the galles have arrived
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Argentina is getting worse, while Colombia is getting better. Given the choice to move to either, I pick Colombia without a fucking doubt.
I've actually visited both countries. Argentinians are lazy fucking Shits, and the only reliably open shops are operated by Asian immigrants.
sudaca is everyone including Mexicans.
there are much more criminal scum from Romania/Morocco (like you) than Colombians doing that.
Peru is already average or above average on several items, and it will continue to grow fast because of good economic policies compared to socialist shitholes like Argentina or Memezuela. The thing is that they need to diversify their economy, also, improve education system significatively.
>Argentina is getting worse, while Colombia is getting better. Given the choice to move to either, I pick Colombia without a fucking doubt.
Fucking idiot
>I've actually visited both countries. Argentinians are lazy fucking Shits, and the only reliably open shops are operated by Asian immigrants.
True
los peruANOS
Same
Colombia is the future
Argentina is just full of arrogant pricks living in the past
Colombia is populated by criminals and everybody hates them at least in Spain
Sup
PeruANUS get all the digits, maybe Peru is indeed the future.
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Agreed on the shitposting, and as I mentioned my view is Colombia is doing pretty well. The question was about who's a tiger (as in similar to Asian tiger economies) Colombia is still bogged down by far harder to fix systemic issues (drugs, corruption, violence) than Peru, Chile is more settled and has a lesser return on investment. Granted, both Colombia and Chile are more advanced than Peru in many areas, but mid to long term I see greater potential for sustainable growth in Peru.
In a wider sense these three countries, along with Mexico, are already considered the Latin American tigers.
El estereotipo viene de tu mierda de pais y hazme caso
Aqui en Espania esta mejor visto ser de Argentina que de colombia pero de lejos
Vosotros y los rumanos estais en lucha de conseguir el primer puesto en como joder esta nacion
They could a pretty good tandem with colombia
Colombia is doing great latelly, last decade was the best in our history.
Marihuana is expected to become a big part of our industry, because North americans couldn't simply compete againts our prices (a few cents cost a marihuana flower here versus several dollars in north america).
FARC has agreed the peace deal, ELN will soon follow.
Next goverments will stop having to worry about war and could rather spend the money on education and infraestructure.
I keep hearing from americans and other foreigners that we love to work hard, dunno, can someone confirm?
No
It's a glorified banana republic that's based mostly on exporting raw natural resources. Also lmao at the person itt saying we never had dictators.
t. Colombian pro
I visited Spain several times. Colombians are fairly well integrated, a lot of them even acquired Spanish accent which I find very odd. Doesn't matter if there is a Colombian in the news from time to time because drug trafficking
bud why?
>Colombians are fairly well integrated
Colombia has a very dark future because of the goddamn communist guerrillas. They are among the wealthiest organizations on the planet and are buying their way into government. Colombia is also a very corrupt shithole and taxation is off the roof. Literally all investors will flee to Chile, Peru and Argentina. They raised the taxes to 19%
Also we are a NATO associate and our government made a deal with them last month, Maduro is already sperging out about it
>it is, Colombia has been the most democratic South American country for the past century. Other Sudacas had dictatorships, we didn't.
Your country has had a civil war for decades along with a narco war with dead politicians, jorunalists, etc with massive corruption and violence.
Your political system isn't stable at all, having a dictatorship or not doesn't change that.
>Marihuana is expected to become a big part of our industry, because North americans couldn't simply compete againts our prices (a few cents cost a marihuana flower here versus several dollars in north america).
do you have legal weed?
we don't yet, but the companies in it are already valued at 3 billion
>Also lmao at the person itt saying we never had dictators.
its the truth you monkie, we had a single dictator, for four years in the 50s, and it was a shit dictator who gave up easily and called for elections himself. a few years later he nominated for presidency and lost.
any other Sudaca country had one or several dictatorships that lasted decades.
Spain is full of unemployed lazy retards comparably worse than even most Latin American countries, so I'm not sure why I should care about what the Spanish think.
How about you go 10 years without a civil war, and then I'll care about your opinion.
lmao nobody will vote for those faggots here.
It doesn't matter because the next president will be another uribe puppet.
nobody here likes socialism.
And cheap prostitutes or putas de carretera
>Your political system isn't stable at all
but it IS stable. has it changed? no.
>They are among the wealthiest organizations on the planet and are buying their way into government.
that's retarded. They could have done that already many years ago, they aren't doing it now that they will be exposed and under all kinds of scrutiny.
medicinal marihuana is already legal here, so there's already big plans to harvest and farm marihuana for medical purposes.
nytimes.com
Other countries simply can't compete because we can harvest all year long here because is basically summer the entire year here.
First let's solve the narcotraffic problem in all of SA and then we'll talk
You guys are on the right path. Hard work is the key to a prosperous country.
Commies always overestimate their needs relative to their ability and it leads to the fall of society. Just keep doing what you're doing.
Colombians are fine with corruption especially the ones who have those involved in it either via family or friends when push comes to shove.
Keep telling yourself that, almost half the country voted for a peace agreement which had the mandatory political presence of FARC in the congress without election and land redistribution laws. Give it a decade until you and your cuck generation end up like the liberal faggots in California whose only concern is gay marriage. Oh that's right one of the government agreements was to acknowledge that gender is a social construct.
Colombia already has gay marriage retard.
You never had a dictatorship because you never needed it. Politics in Colombia is still in the same standard of oligarchic control as in the rest of South America during the 1910s.
the companies here are building greenhouses that cost almost 30 million + so they can grow year round
I know and I meant it as they turn out to be liberal SJW faggots you faggot ass leaf.
Americans would have never voted for a socialist but weaken the values, give them drugs and sexual degeneracy and you have Americans voting for Bernie Sanders.
Don't underestimate the FARC. If they are leaving the armed struggle, it's because they believe they have chances of success in the political struggle.
I'm going to predict here that in less than 20 years the party created by the FARC will win the elections and undo all the progress of the last decades.
you don't know my country.
the left already is a fucking failure here and never wins any election.
the right already control the media.
Look up the anti gay manifestations in my country, the only reason there's gay marriage is because leftist here spoke about our international compromises and some shit.
gay people are still beaten here and most people feel proud about using biblical arguments against gays.
shut up, you don't live here and my country is like a muslim state compared to your faggotry and SJW and trasngender shit.
The threat of Degeneracy is the least of what's stopping us from voting for Bernie. Millenials, X Gen, and Baby Boomers are fairly socially liberal. It's the vehement rejection of socialism that keeps us far away from electing Bernie.
Yeah, and they will be bankrupt when they discover they can harvest four times here in a year without warehouses and simply using natural daylight.
you can thank the FARC for giving the left a big stigma here.
I don't think the country will become a majority those new millenials voting for FARC.
Also, the thing about the FARC is that they still have economic power and political influence in the areas they control.
Everyone else disappeared, the cartels of the 1980s, the paramilitary armies of the 1990s and early 2000s, while the FARC remained and have taken control of the entire illegal drug trade in South America. Brazil is currently entering a drug war between the main factions, and one of them, the one that controls trade between South America, is linked to FARC and left-wing movements.
Bogota and those fucking coastal shitholes will change that in some years, the only solution will give independence to Antioquia and the Santanderes
>you can thank the FARC for giving the left a big stigma here.
These things pass rather quickly, given left-wing institutional control of the media and education systems. I don't know how things are in Colombia in this regard, but I'm going to guess most universities are filled with pro-FARC people who mask their attitude behind "human rights" discourse. These guys are going to educate the next generation to believe FARC were the good guys fighting inequality and oppression, so when they begin to vote, they will vote for the party associated with the FARC.
That's how ex-guerrilla members have reached power in countries like Brazil and Uruguay.
Just throw them out of Helicopters. It seems to be the only system that works in South America.
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And I do know more about Colombia than you do. Petro a literal former communist guerrilla commander who turned bogota into a piece of shit is second on the polls for president. Like Brazil said do not underestimate them, these people have billions and billions of dollars in Switzerland waiting to be used to gain power. You do not become the biggest most powerful drug cartel in the world by being dumb, they have a plan.
Pretty sure there are import tariffs on marihuana
Same here...it is local or from netherlands(single eu market)
It is impossible to export "drugs" from SA to Canada or EU
good luck getting the population to vote for you when you kidnapped their relatives, killed them (the peasants), made terrorists attacks for years.
good luck getting the people to vote for leftists when the historical turn over for left politicians is 30%
good luck getting the majority when we have uribe and ordoñez, who are basically right wing conservatives and hold more political power than the FARC.
also good luck promoving leftists ideologies when the average colombian still goes to church and believe in the bible and jesus.
we're a conservative right wing country.
people still here remember Pablito.
>Bogotá
You really can't expect more from rolos but I'm sure that won't happen in almost any other part of the country
And yes, Petro biggest victory was a fucking major in the capital, filled with SJW.
he was fourth in the results when he was president, and yes, I voted for him.
he's big on the cities, but good luck getting the average peasant on the farms voting for him.
You need to remember Uribe is basically jesus 2.0 here.
It would be easier for uribe to be president again than FARC.
The national university of Colombia,
>nO cHanCe wE cAn B iDocTriNaTeD tO Da LeFT LMAO
That's just like Brazil in the early 1980s, and look what happened afterwards.
If leftists control the university system, then they don't need anything else but teach their doctrines to the people that matter at colleges and wait.
Seriously, if after years of civil war, with right-wing death squads killing activists, the turn over for left politicians is 30%, they are going to win easily once they stop being actively fought against. It won't even take 20 years as I predicted. Already in the next decade we will have a socialist president in Colombia.
>the right wing elites will do nothing and leave commies to take over
It's always the universities man, the universities are the key, and everyone forgets it.
The current tragedy in Venezuela didn't began with Chavez winning the elections in 1999, or with the economic crisis of the 1980s. It began when, Romulo Betancourt, out of his naive democratic idealism, gave autonomy to the universities in Venezuela, prohibiting the police from even entering university campuses. As a result, Venezuelan universities became hotspots of revolutionary activism, there were Cuban trained guerrillas inside the Central University and no one gave a fuck. These people educated the Venezuelan elites for decades, the intellectual elite who staffed the bureaucracy, the media and the cultural industry and who would later accept some brutish military officer as the socialist savior of the country. That's how our countries fall.
Why is it so hard to understand that generations can be cucked into accepting leftists ideals and support SJWism? It happened in Europe it happened in Canada and it's happening here big time.
Of course FARC wouldn't get themselves to be Potus but they sure can have some charismatic leader who supposedly has nothing to do with them obey their asses. Don't be so naive.
I hope to God it doesn't happen but there's still a cultural war to be fought so in 10 years from now people still despise leftism.
yeah, good luck promoting socialism when you have a failed socialist state next to you.
you also seem to imply the right wing elites will allow for commies to win, is very common to hear people IRL and on facebook talking how the FARC will take over after they sign the peace.
we haven't forgotten or ignored their plan.
socialismo del siglo XXI is already failling here and most countries are moving away from leftism.
hell, trump got elected, brexit happened, we voted NO.
right now the left is dieing and the historical pendulum is moving back to right wing and nationalism.
holy fuck, calm down the fear faggots.
If the right-wing elites are educated by Marxist professors at universities to see social inequality as the greatest evil that must be atoned by socialist wealth redistribution, and that possible human rights violations are worst than the lawlessness and disorder brought by crime, yes, they may actually just let the commies take over.
I know because I live in a country where that's exactly what happened. It took the creation of another right-wing intellectual culture, one that completely rejected the moral framework of the left, for us to be able to fight back.
you seem to ignore how the right wing is having a revival all over the world.
Left-wing governments in Latin America were hit by economic crises, but they didn't lost their political power. Maduro is still firmly in charge in Venezuela, thanks to his support in the army and with paramilitaries. Argentina will probably elect a Peronist in the next elections since Macri didn't manage to convince investors that the country is stable enough to warrant investment, Brazil is also at risk in 2018, Lula may very well win the elections, Chile has just change the constitution that gave it stability, which also increases the power of the left.
Don't underestimate these guys, they are planning their takeover the continent, articulating their strategies, for decades.