here, is an interesting read if you want to know more:
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I didn't know that. I've analyzed his music but I've never read comprehensive biographies on him. My bad.
>there's no subtly or deeper emotion being expressed
Another baseless accusation, how can you say that?
Listen to these pieces and tell me they are devoid of emotion. What you call showy and flashy I call energetic and lively, passionate. And these are just some of his softer pieces, I quite enjoy some of his works.
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>And it pales in comparison to italian opera because its all about dancing and amusement than expressivity
While I can't speak for Italian opera I respectfully disagree. Sure a lot of it was about entertainment and a spectacle to impress, but there are parts in these works that are quite expressive.
>Never performed live.
Again how can you say that? There are countless recordings on Youtube of people performing Lully live in front of an audience.
>Again how can you say that? There are countless recordings on Youtube of people performing Lully live in front of an audience.
I'm saying that it isn't in the general repertoire. Listening to Lully is a rarity, but in every big French city you can be sure that there will be at least 1 Rameau concert per year.
It's like saying that Buxtehude is neverperformed. Of course across the US and Europe every once in a while a concert will pop up, but that's it.
>Buxtehude and Lully a rarity
Truly a tragedy of our times.
That's what you get when you apply free market to the high arts.
>Another baseless accusation, how can you say that?
eh, its more of an opinion. I just feel as though Lully is not the best musician when it comes to expressing subtle emotions elegantly in his music. it's all very heavy-handed and grandiose, and his harmonies aren't particularly expressive even if they are exciting and catchy... I'm not saying his works are completely devoid of expression, but they approach it in a much cruder and "primitive" (?) way when compared to his italian contemporaries. he doesn't really venture outside of established musical idioms for the french court, which makes sense since they're generally more catered to impressing a king and nobility than
creating a timeless masterpiece of personal emotion or being particularly innovative.
to each his own, though. He's not a HORRIBLE composers; I wouldn't have nearly as much of a problem with Lully if it weren't for the way he's celebrated among classical communities, see we'll just have to agree to disagree.
>I wouldn't have nearly as much of a problem with Lully if it weren't for the way he's celebrated among classical communities
Get a life.
this whole arguement was about Lully being overrated, tu enfant
Fair enough, at least you have an argument. Many people dismiss him and his work over trivial reasons.