How can any self-respecting man """love""" a woman who fucks random chads she feels no emotional connection to for the...

How can any self-respecting man """love""" a woman who fucks random chads she feels no emotional connection to for the benefit of her own sexual pleasure but doesn't even value his feelings enough to give him a pity fuck

We find the nice guy!

but he's so fucking old, it's like a high school principal trying to pork a freshmen cheerleader

tips fedora

He has a strong Targaryan Fetish.

And there aren't many of those left in the world.

Valyrian Fetish, and there are many of those in the world.

Dany reminds him of his ex-wife.

Why wouldnt she fuck Jorah?
I'm not gay and i would fuck him.
Also he's way better looking than generic chad n.1

Hey genius when you get old guess what you're still going to find young women attractive. Best of luck looking like jorah here, the guy is handsome and distinguished af

WAAAH WHY WON'T WOMEN HAVE SEX WITH ME IF I'M NICE TO THEM WAAAAAH

No self-respecting man can. This thread is way too long.

This

>still thinking you earn sex and affection by doing women favors/being "Nice Guy"

YOU make it happen, you take it.

Everything u learned about dating/relationships from tv/film/your mom is wrong. So get it out of your head.

the question is, would young women find your old ass attractive?

Jorah "I'm actually a First Men but you can call me an Andal if you'll actually talk to me" Jorah.

so you're saying that jewish propaganda made women into whores?

No im saying that romantic fairytaleshit is written by writers in their 30-40s who never got any ass for the first third of their life.

Pretty sure the mormonts descend from andals and won bear island in an arm wrestling match with one of the starks.

well, getting ass in real life is not complicated, but you need to create conflict in shows to have a story.

so this happens.

Show Jorah doesn't even seem to have a sexual interest in Khaleesi

They behave like a father and daughter

daughters are fair game as long as they're not biological

D&D will probably write him on cuckhold scene.

>go cure your incurable disease and then come back to me
>yes my khaleesi

>Dany's power over Jorah is so strong she can literally order him to not die

I bet her fire proof dragon pussy can cure that disease

or at least worth trying

his wife was a valiryan

Don't forget
>I'm an all powerful queen that runs an entire city and several red priestesses but I won't get anyone with knowledge to try to help you find a cure

The won it from the kings of the Iron Islands. They are Northmen and First Men.

>not getting any ass from age 0-13

Fucking losers

Go back to bed, Woody.

I was with you until the pity fuck thing. Ewww.

But yeah, future generations will look back at this show and wonder how ppl saw Dany as a heroine.

>Actually no they won't, this culture is dead.

He thinks Dany is not for lewd, if he had any way of knowing how hard Drogo and Daario tapped that ass...

We say fall in love for a reason, it isn't a decision, it's a fall

Many women have daddy issues.

Preferring older men doesn't necessitate daddy issues. The chances are much higher if you're homosexual though.

Well...Iain Glen's quite a handsome man and he's got a terrific voice. After measuring myself against those criteria I have determined that the best response is to post an image.

Now specifically or for all time? Fairy tales are fucking *old* and in at least some instances genuinely ancient.

Jorah Mormont is an ex-chad though.

He literally pulled off the prettiest girl in that tournament didn't he? Except that woman was a golddigging ho.

He was also the second person through the breach at Pyke. Jorah's a legit badass but not handsome in the books.

Literally a c u c k

You must be a woman.

Show Jorah is DEFINITELY interested in Dany sexually. And on top of that its even referenced a few times when Daario is around.

As Jaime said, we don't choose who we love

Gee, I don't know. You should ask your mum.

Did you miss the part where his first wife basically treated him as a Sugar Daddy except that he was beta as fuck and she got him into trouble because he didn't have enough dosh which ended him being exiled and his house disbanded.

Niggers

>fucking a big grey scaley bear cock

>his house disbanded
Loli Mormont is the same house he is.

My massive dilf cock

His Branch of the House, yes.

He's a lonely geezer and around an attractive teenage girl all the time. It was bound to happen.

Women don't want a boring nice guy who puts them on a pedestal. They want someone unpredictable and a little dangerous who can excite and challenge them.

>missing the point entirely

I'm balding worse than Jorah and I'm 25

There's no hope. I've realized that girls of all ages see bald(ing) men as fucking losers.

shave your head and start lifting you sadcunt

Shaved head is not much better.

I swear Daario is getting beta just from being around Dany, though

>challenge

wtf? How do chad boyfriends "challenge" them? The treat them like shit and make them act submissive. They certainly don't make them rise to any sort of challenge/occassion or make them better themselves or make them examine themselves internally or forge new skills.

Do you mean that girls like guys who call out their bullshit behaviour and shit tests? Coz that's just guys genuinely hating how women act and wanting them to shut up.

Its not something girls should value/idealise in their relationships. It should be fucking embarrassing to have to be "challenged" like that all the time.

And the pedestal thing is crap, too. Nice Guys just treat those women like what they think they are (Angels etc). The literal only problem with that is the fact that they are wrong in their original assessment.

I hope this is b8 because otherwise you're a big cuck

Not even bait, so how?

Never mind man, just... good luck with your life. I hope you find some sort of middle ground in being able to tolerate your future hardships

I dunno, man. I feel like part of what makes people stupid is not even having the mental energy to express their ideas.

That "Never mind" stuff. Could there be a lazier way to avoid processing information and typing out some criticism? Is it really all too much?

But you're still so certain that you're seeing things clearly, even though you can't break it down enough to say it in English?

Do you really actually feel like you're taking pity on someone less mentally fortunate than you, or are you just pulling a ruse?

He's a humble guy.

ITT: butthurt virgins

he already said he loves her, and not as a daugher.
he wants to bang her.

you don't pick what you love

you pick how you react to those feelings, but at the end of the day you cant control what you love

...and the sluts who know that what we're saying is basically correct.

Get into a "D & M" with any woman, and 7 times out of 10 she hates herself. 10 out of 10 for the real sluts.

And its for the same reasons that r9k are talking about.

>inb4 Cross-posting
>inb4 Containment

This is a conversation about Jorah fucking Mormont. It should have been freaking POSTED on r9k.

Also:
>butthurt
>virgin

Does not technically make sense.

His mom probably told him he looked so cute in his pirate outfit....

And then this happened.

challenge is the wrong word desu

chads are a "challenge" because she knows a dozen other girls are jockeying for his dick at any given time, and that he could replace her with one of them any second.

that temporal factor puts a woman on her A game. She's more fun, more respectful, more willing to let petty shit slide.

the opposite of that is the rock steady "nice guy". She knows he's always going to be around, always going to put up with her shit, doesn't have any other girls in his life to replace her with. That scenario puts a woman at her absolute worst.

yes you can. are you underage?

Chemistry. Literally.

loving something in any sense of the word is basically a reaction. Forcing yourself to love x thing doesn't work.

Yeah no that actually makes sense.

Its awful and evokes a vast sense of cosmic aloneness.

But it does make sense.

I wonder who would actually be a 'challenge' for Dany, then?

Whose dick can't she have?

Jaime, basically. Maybe Beric. And Varys.

Anyone else would be down in a heartbeat with all her power and dragons etc. I guess she'll have to travel a long way to find a 'challenge'.

Game Of Thrones Jorah Cuck Porn Parody Is Coming...

lmaoing @ that hairline

try forcing yourself to love something

force yourself to love me

you cant

because you cant actually control what you love, you autistic faggot

>I dunno, man

You're right, you don't

Not him, but wisdom cannot be conveyed to another like intelligence can. Wisdom comes from experience, and those of us here who are experienced can see that you are trying to justify the notion that women shouldn't fall for 'chads' - when, in actual fact, ALL women fall for chads ALL the time, always have, always will. NO amount of reasonable thought will EVER change that. Your argument is sound and logical, and completely dissociated from reality.
You seem to believe that people are capable of rigorous self-control and logic. That ain't how people work.
It is true that women shouldn't like guys who treat them like crap: but, women like guys who treat them like crap. People like people who treat them like crap - it's a people thing, not a womyns thing. But it is true.
There is no logical way for user to explain it to you in a way you will believe, so he doesn't try.

this shit is only kinda of true tho, it really depends on the chick
if shes just as temporal, then playing that card doesn't really work unless your like a fucking 15/10 Chad and she flat out gets wet upon eye contact
I know this from experience unfortunately

glad i'm not like you people :)

You are stuck with a very basic, chemistry set interpretation of the word 'love' - get wiser.

If your definition is exclusively your own subjective feelings, your definition a shit.

His sister was lord of the house.

if you think love is something you control, youre actually unironically autistic

all adults and all classic literature and all of culture and all of society says otherwise

you can control how you react to love, and overtime love can change, but you cant consciously make the decision to love or stop loving something

Here's an interesting experiment.

Does the guy who didn't have the mental energy to explain himself:
Does that guy agree with the guy who DID have the mental energy to explain himself:

?
Are you two both coming from the same place, here?


Either way. I'm not some kind of Asimov robot who gets confused when people are not logical.

It's hard to say that these kind of patterns in female-to-male attraction to not speak to some kind of cause that is at least more PREVALENT among females. I mean, Rugby Union is a "people thing" as well, but its hard to say that there isn't a gender component.

Regardless, its still worth talking about.

I mean, boiling away false protestations of virtue ("I want a bf who CHALLENGES me") to reveal what is basically hypocrisy and masochism...

...well, that's what public forums should be all about.

That, and Game of Thrones.

Only a Sith deals in semantics, user.

VENOM "PUNISHED" BETA
-A Fallen Nice Guy-

Wait a second...

I don't follow this show except from what I pick up from my friends, but why the fuck did Danyeris (sp?) exile Jorah when he's the most loyal character in GoT?

And whats to love? Shes an arrogant, self righteous little shit. Now Myranda... There's a woman.

It's really not that mysterious - look into Erich Frohmm, user, unironically.
You will quickly learn that you have a lot to learn.

EVERYONE'S a hypocritical masochist. You've just figured out human nature.

Thing is, our emotional drives are quite separate from our thought process. We are taught to think things; but these things we think are not necessarily aligned with how our emotions work. So, we THINK we should love somebody because of x, y, z - buuuuut, we find ourselves feeling goodhappyfun feelings about the a, b, c we see in that OTHER person who does NOT have x, y, z. Thus, without any logic, we latch onto the a, b, c - cause it feels good! We say we want x, y, z; we protest to all who'll listen that we want x, y, z; but we stick with a, b, c because we love a, b, c. Abc treats us like crap, but we love abc, and we know that, with enough loving kindness and niceness, abc will love us back.

Do you see the pattern?

because he started out as a spy and never told her.

He is the literal, actual definition of a cuckold. You can bet your bottom dollar he'd raise her children by another man too. He's the ultimate beta cuck. It's who he is.

It works both ways with men and women. Kaleesi is a total badass fucking random dudes and not giving a fuck. This old man wants the cool slutty girl. Same way the cool guy bangs all kind of sluts and some nice girl really wants a bad boy.

Yeah, except that in this analogy qualties a, b and c involve treating you like crap. Which means that the we can't say "abc treats us like crap, but we love abc" because that's part of our original definition of abc, so we have to say "abc treats us like crap, good" which people DON'T say, so we have to invent a NEW set of characteristics, call them q, r, s and THOSE characteristic are made up ones that we use to DESCRIBE abc ppl without admitting to the fact that we want to be treated like crap, so now we can eat chocolate ice-cream and complain to our girlfriends about how "qrs treats us like crap, how is this happening?" when really qrs = abc so that this was a fait acompli to begin with.

And they need another negative set of characteristics to give the same treatment to xyz ppl, becoz fuck those guys, so xyz now = Nice Guys, and we all know that they are creepy conniving virgins.

THAT's what people actually do. That's the pattern. And while it is 'human nature', it is still heavily gender skewed.

Other sick parts of human nature skew male. That's for sure. Rape, pillage, investment banking, those are on us.

But calling this specific pattern of hypocrisy/masochism a simply 'human' problem over-generalises it, leading to the same old anodyne, equivocal rhetoric like "everyone is shit" or "let he who is without sin" and so no one ever gets called out on their shit.

>girls are valued romantically for their sluttiness

This comment makes sense only from the perspective that you're a Penny Dreadful fan, and hence an Eva Green fan...

>"""love"""
>"""

CUT THIS SHIT OUT

We all have been Jorah at some point. I feel you man.
But death is the best that can happen to him if he doesn't snap out of it which would still suck because he's turning into a stone dude and no woman would love him

Also Khaleesi a shit, would only touch with a stick if it had a sharp metal headat the tip.

You just want to be justified in your hatred of women because they don't like you. Man up. Be what a woman wants. Don't know what that is? Yes you do! Women want the stereotypical man. Period. Full stop.
How can this be so difficult to understand?

Because he was a spy passing info about her to her enemies. He eventually become loyal to her during his time with her, but the damage had already been done.

Why does no one in this fucking show wear vambraces? This triggers me.

The whole world has changed even in the last 5 years from people pointing out flawed patterns of general behaviour and complaining about them in sufficient numbers.

Our whole fucking civilisation talks, thinks and acts differently, mostly not for the better.

In practical terms, yeah, the best way to get a girl is to embody certain qualities.

But if we're admitting that the qualities in demand are (partly) shithouse qualities, then we're also duty bound to try and bring awareness to that and change them. John Stuart Mill, basically.

Also, its pretty misleading to conflate "Women want bastards" with "Women want a Man. Man up."

Men are not bastards. The virtues of masculinity as they have been handed down through the ages include manly qualities like Strength and Forthrightness, but not "treat ur gf like shit".

So if there's a situation that favours certain kinds of men who are clearly bastards (I've outlined pretty clearly why I think there is), the problem cannot be said to be a failure on everyone else's part to Man up.


>How can this be so difficult to understand?

How could something like this NOT be complicated?

I love the thousand yard stare he has.