Be me

>be me
>parents moved here from france in the 90s, both are from the burgundy region
>I consider myself quebecois but also french
>meet friendly black guy at bus stop
>tells me that he's new here and already hates winter
>I ask him where he's from
>france he says
>I ask him but where originally
>france he says and tells me that he's a frenchman and parents are too
>I can tell he was insulted and on the defensive
>little awkward silence
>I say oh cool I'm also french
>no you're not
>mfw

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>>be me
> >parents moved here from france in the 90s, both are from the burgundy region
> >I consider myself quebecois but also french
> >meet friendly black guy at bus stop
> >tells me that he's new here and already hates winter
> >I ask him where he's from
> >france he says
> >I ask him but where originally
> >france he says and tells me that he's a frenchman and parents are too
> >I can tell he was insulted and on the defensive
> >little awkward silence
> >I say oh cool I'm also french
> >no you're not
> >mfw


you are not french you are american now.

Well did you tell him something back or stayed there doing nothing like a loser?

To be fair you aren't french, you're a dirty quebecois. Don't worry, he isn't french either. Not that being french is anything to be proud of anyways

>be me

stopped reading right there lol

>you are american now.
No hes not.

canadians are americans

You're not french mohamed

No, they are Canadians.

>I say oh cool I'm also french

MUH

canada is in america

>canada is in america
Canada is on the continent that also hosts the USA.

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Cash me outside girl has Italian muh-heritage. Really makes me think.

yeah I told him that my whole family was from there and I go visit often, I think I just ended agreeing with him like a cuck in the end because I was born here after all, it was just the fact that he clearly was pure african that triggered me

>being this new

Lol, you as much French as I am German.

>muh heritage
every time

Unless your parents are from Germany not really. Most people in Canada/USA with two parents from the same country basically grow up in a household that speaks that language, eats the foods from that country, celebrates holidays, are part of an ex-pat community, etc. They are kind of hybrids.

If you are born in America you're american, no one else.
The nation of your parents stop being matter.
Yet You somehow cling on your heritage.

You just wouldn't understand. I grew up with both french parents with french accents and had french family/friends visit often from France. I'm close to that culture. of course I somehow identify with it. If you were born in america with two russian parents you would feel the same way I'm sure.

Doubt it.

Are you OP? That black French dude probably feels the same way as you to be fair. He and his family probably only identifies with french culture and probably lived in France for a few generations.

What a fitting coincidence, people in Burgundy have accents nearly as retarded as the ones in Québec.
t. my family also come from there

Insulte mon accent encore et tu vas y goûter, Talib.

>Yet You somehow cling on your heritage.
I dont, closest to European I am is that 3 great grandparents are from Europe. However, if you think his home would have been a normal American/ Canadian home your high. Why do you think we have problems with Mexicans and Europe with Muslims? Not everyone really assimilates.

yes, and maybe you're right maybe I'm just a dick

>probably lived in France for a few generations.
Highly doubtful.

>be me
>grandparents moved to France in the 60s
>I consider myself French but also Tunisian
>Go to tunisia for holidays
>people ask where I'm from because eof my accent
>I say I'm French Tunisian
>No you're not tunisian
>mfw

I'm from Burgundy too
Also maybe this guy was from french antilles, if so his family lives in France since a long time

I totally understand you Québec bro (t. French of Tunisian parents).
But I understand he was offended desu.

You don't know. It's very possible.

Not accusing you of anything but this is the same thing people think about black Americans and Africa. Black american have been in the country since colonialism, and yet they're all suppose to go back to Africa when most of their families have been hear longer than the majority of white Americans.

Nous it's not very possible, 99% of the blacks in France came less than 50 years ago.

>source: my ass

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you should laugh at this nigger and tell him that being born in france doesnt make him french and that hes ooga booga ethiopian

You're being dense and you know it

Well, if you consider "being french" something genetic, then you're stupid.
If you consider it a cultural thing, then I say you're both French, as long as you actually do the shit you're saying and you're not just pulling an Irish-American on us here.

>spend 14 hours a day whining about immigrants not assimilating into your culture
>claim that a fully assimilated Frenchman of foreign descent can never be considered French
I hope each of you gets burglarized by Maghrebi gangs

You are German?

hommesmigrations.revues.org/1719

They started coming in the 60's but until the mid-70's immigrants were mostly Arabs. Blacks came after the "regroupement familial" laws.

Truth

Nah, American studying here.

[spoiler]hopefully I can become a german though :3[/spoiler]

Wrong
It is in North America
America is a country

You can't be "fully assimilated" if you or your parents are from another country, as you will not know the traditional culture, even more so if you look foreign, people will always see you as non-french because French is an ethnicity and a culture
My dad is not French, and I feel way less French than my pure French friends and girlfriend as I don't have all the French culture they have, instead half of it is foreign even if my dad is from another European country.
An adopted black guy will have the culture but because he will be seen as a foreigner, he'll often associate himself with Afro-American culture and " black culture"

>but because he will be seen as a foreigner, he'll often associate himself with Afro-American culture and " black culture"

This is what Canadafriend is saying is wrong, btw. That he's treated as a foreigner regardless of what he does.

Well... neither of you are French.
You're Canadian, and the black guy is just a guy without an ethnicity.
Maybe he will also be Canadian some day.

I'm from Eastern Europe but consider myself fully American

>An adopted black guy will have the culture but because he will be seen as a foreigner, he'll often associate himself with Afro-American culture and " black culture"

user this is idiotic

Being French is both being culturally French and ethnically French or at least European.
My aunt grew up in France of Tunisian parents, she's mostly culturally French ( even if she's utterly ignorant of anything outside Paris) but she consider herself Tunisian as French people and Arabs will always view her as a tunisian.
Her half French children will probably see themselves as franco-tunisien, and if they have children with French people her grandsons might consider themselves fully French

>dumb shit
>you

If a nigger is born in a garage itdoesn't mean he's a garagist.

I also could stand forever in the forest in wouldn't make me more of a tree.

>what are les Antilles
>what is la Réunion

Well I have two good friends who are half blacks from the French carribean islands and they copied Afro-American culture and view themselves as Africans. My ex was ethnically Vietnamese but was adopted by French parents, so she has no Vietnamese culture whatsoever, still she felt Vietnamese because she was reminded all the time she wasn't French, she just had to look in the mirror to see she was Asian, not French, even if she was culturally French

>be me
>parents moved here from france in the 90s, both are from the burgundy region
>I consider myself Svensk but also french
>black guy talks to me at bus stop
>call the police

They're "French" in name only, their culture and their ethnicity is not French hence they can't be considered French.

>Being this self conqcious
I'm French and I don't need anyone to approve.
Suck it if you don't like it.

If both your 4 grand parents and parents aren't ethnically french or/and you haven't grow up in France you aren't French because you lack the culture or ethnicity.

I agree 100%.

Yeah, but this isn't necessarily how things must be. I myself am the son of an Egyptian immigrant, and I was essentially just an American with a funny name until 9/11.

Réunionnais and Antillais never call themselves french m8.

How would you know?
You guys made niggardry an export culture.

French is a people not a culture, you are not French anymore than French people are tunisian.

True thing though.
Stop influencing black people living in Europe, you guys are making things more complicated than they should be

but he's not Canadian either, he's from Quebec

>>black guy talks to me at bus stop
>>call the police
is it common to call the police that someone does not want to rape you?

German immigrants dropped their ancestral names or changed them to english sounding ones when they came to the US. You should have done the same.

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Because America is a land of immigrants, there's no American ethnicity cause they've been wiped out. France is a nation built around a specific culture and a specific ethnicity. If you can't "pass" as French ( basically if you're not European), nobody will see you as a french person because you're obviously from another country, you or your parents.

finally a good post from a leaf

terrible post Rachid, just go back to Algerie

>Because America is a land of immigrants, there's no American ethnicity
"America" doesn't exist, the nation was a nation of white men thus people who went into this state who were white were of the same nation, it's provincial moving from nation to nation.

That's some big revisionism here

I think the germans should have kept their names, desu. That said, I am actually giving serious thought to taking my girlfriend's last name (Meyer) if we stay together. I'm just not sure names matter, as long as the culture and language is there.

The land was dominated and owned by White men, yes or no?

after 400 years you can properly say there's an "american" (well, more like texan or cali or eastcoaster or nigga) ethnicity
even if a nation of mutts, every nation in the New World has its own personality nowadays. we earned it
but if you're talking about racial divide, then yeah, there's no possible assimilation when that happens

lol

>is it common to call the police that someone does not want to rape you?
No you don't understand. Talking to someone you don't know IS rape.
Sorry for bad quality of pic related

How so ? A black, an Arab or a Asian can't be a local, if you go to britanny and see only black people you will not think " oh yeah they're totally local people, here since thousands of years ago. You know they're not, they arrived recently and you know that cause they don't look like locals.If I go to China as a white bloke and get the nationality, nobody will see me as Chinese neither the whites nor the Asians cause I wouldn't be fucking chinese.

my face when

So you aren't French then. You've to go back, Mohammed

>I am actually giving serious thought to taking my girlfriend's last name

I've thought about doing that as well, gf has super cool last name and my name is shitty and common as fuck. I'd hyphenate or maybe even combine the two if it sounds good.

I'd do that or change my last name to something I actually like.

Oh really

>I'd hyphenate

actually it still is, USA is still a white state.

l'autisme est réel.

She's also Jewish her other last name is Jewish

>France is a nation built around a specific Ethnicity

>La France est une République indivisible, laïque, démocratique et sociale. Elle assure l'égalité devant la loi de tous les citoyens sans distinction d'origine, de race ou de religion. Elle respecte toutes les croyances.

>La République et les peuples des territoires d'outre-mer qui, par un acte de libre détermination, adoptent la présente Constitution instituent une Communauté. La Communauté est fondée sur l'égalité et la solidarité des peuples qui la composent.

This is just our current constitution. You can go check the first one if you want. You won't find any mention of Ethnicity or race.
fr.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_du_3_septembre_1791

Is this were you accuse me of being a nu-male or something? Even if my last name sucks I still have a large family so completely abandoning it seems more pussy than hyphenating it. Ultimately I like the idea of combining names to make a new one more so that might be what I'll aim for.

>1971
French is a people, European Aryans same as Tunisians are Semitic Arabs.

yeah otherwise how would have Trump won?

The political regime -/- the country or the people.

In regard of the law there's no difference between a black who recently acquired the nationality and don't speak good French, and a guy from Corrèze, whose ancestors always lived there. And that's good.
But no French people will see the first guy as being g French and nobody will see the other one as being anything but French

Words have a meaning. You said France was a nation built around an Ethnicity. It's just plain wrong.

Israel was built around a religion, Germany was built around an Ethnicity (unifying gzrmans) , France never was.

>French is a people
just 75 years ago every french woman was having german nazi babies and now they're having mahgrebi and sudanese babies
please tell me what characteristics this "french people" have

>please tell me what characteristics this "french people" have
French, European Aryan.

The State of France was created for the Gaulish tribes.

>believing a meme

I have been in France and mixed babies are extremely rare, even in big cities.

>Aryan
ayyy lmao, so these characteristics?

ahahah i fucking love stormfags, they're so cute using adult words

ok. mostly people stick to their original class and abortion exists, i admit my defeat

Okay little Amerindian.

An ethnicity AND a culture. You need both to be French. If you're a white guy of French culture with both parents being french,you're French.
If me and my girlfriend went to China and had a son there nobody would consider him Chinese even if he has the Chinese culture.

yeah but guess what in real life people do have an ethnicity and like any people the french people have an ethnicity.
You can't rationnaly put on the same level somebody who has all his family in France and somebody who has family elsewhere.

Imagine a war broke between Tunisia and France who would you be supporting? Probably not France right?

So stop this bullshit right now.

>Imagine a war broke between Tunisia and France who would you be supporting? Probably not France right?
pitiful comparison
at a war you either support your COUNTRY or you go to jail. lots of concentration camps were formed for those CITIZENS who were assumed being of the enemy's kin
but even at WW2 japanese-american soldiers were used in one way or another (as translators in Intelligence or as cannon fodder in the front). if they chose Japan, they would go back to Japan... and be executed because they might be american spies

what other example you could have used? sports? there's plenty of black and north-african players in your national team, do you boo them when they score a goal or win a medal?

brown people belong in brown countries