International capital of the world: New York or London?

International capital of the world: New York or London?

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Literally only brits and self-centered europeans believe that London is the capital over NYC.

NYC

UN headquarters is even there

New York

Washington D.C.

New York and London are the only serious contenders.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city#GaWC_study

I was memeing
tbqh, London hasn't been a contender for more than half a century, NYC is the only real answer.

In the future it's probably going to be Shanghai though.

Tokyo

Tokyo is only an Alpha + city.

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Mecca, it's the capital of my world at least

Paris obv

who cares about that alpha beta shit

>tbqh, London hasn't been a contender for more than half a century, NYC is the only real answer.
not true. i love nyc but it still feels like the world gateway of north america as opposed to the world capital.

t. london

It's Athens desu

Or Rome or Jerusalem

Sofia

>being proud of attracting millions of shitskins
So this is the power of London...

Only Pyongyang deserves capital of the world.

jews or arabs?

>New York
It is not 1950s anymore.
>London
And definitely not 1850s.

brits still clinging to relevance and with not much else to do other than argue on a korean sockpuppet forum

london is irrelevant

Are you saying there's a more likely candidate than NYC, or are you just saying we live in the current year?

is that the Great Leader crossing the street?

there is no international capital of the world.

NYC obviously, literally the global center for all the arts and the current political zeitgeist.
Definitely during the 20th century but not anymore ;_;

Meant to reply to this guy

there's way more to london than shitskins. two things worth pointing out:
>we needed labour so brought it in from the commonwealth
>these 2nd/3rd generation shitskins give us deeper links via family ties to our ex colonies, which can't be a bad thing
i'm not arguing for multicult, should've pulled up the drawbridge years ago, just pointing out that it could be worse (see: literally every other rich european country)

>the global center for all the arts
never heard such a thing. which arts

Don't remind me ;_;

Literature, theatre, visual arts, film, performative arts, music, conceptual arts, etc.
NYC is dominating the art scene by being the place where artists congregate, collaborate, and showcase their works

>New York %80 nigger
>London 30% Muslim
Hmmmm

>seriously considering London

only brits could be this deluded.

Well we definitely live in the current year. What I meant to say is that there isn't a single city in the world that can be considered "the international capital". And New York and London are definitely nowhere close to being called one anymore, their glory days are long over.

>NYC is dominating the art scene by being the place where artists congregate, collaborate, and showcase their works
no, on this front it's literally no more important/iconic or anything else than london or paris, sorry

I'd say New York, because while London is the financial capital of the world, it holds less power than New York

>London
Literally only for Brits and retiring """stars"""
>Paris
This isn't the 1960s

Literally all major publishing houses have their headquarters in New York

>there isn't a single city in the world that can be considered "the international capital"
Probably right, but if there ever where one it would be New York.

eastern poland

>Literally all major publishing houses have their headquarters in New York
this is the one factual thing you've posted.

Mockba.

Jew York

Either fucking Jerusalem or Rome.

New York and London are obvious fedora choice

I'm going to give my honest opinion...

It's New York.

>Either fucking Jerusalem or Rome.
>New York and London are obvious fedora choice
Oh the irony.

Jerusalem

nyc and london didn't invent anime

gotta be tokyo

By which metrics? It is definitely not the most important politically or culturally. NYSE is the biggest in the world, yes, but mostly american companies trade there. It doesn't set any trends in music or fashion anymore. So why would it be New York?

Best art museum with le Louvre being the only other contender
Some of the largest opera and concert halls
As middlebrow as Broadway is it has attracted a lot of other playwrights
Film is probably one of the only weak areas and even then Berlin's avant-garde scene is the real contender, not London.

Only pseuds think that being the financial center of the world means anything.

i know both cities intimately and you're wrong. there's way less in it than you think. i wouldn't pick new yorks cultural offerings as an example to put above londons, in any case

>New York %80 nigger
With Africa's booming population the whole world will be 80% nigger in time, with this reasoning I would say New York is the world capital

Beijing

Because of its relevancy in economics and politics.
It is the most important city in the US, and although Russians may listen to American music a lot less, for most of the world the US still dictates pop music.
Fashion hardly seems to be dictated by one country any more for quite some time, it seems to have evolved to some sort of cooperation of several clothing companies from many countries.
Stupid answer. If any place in China, it would be Shanghai.

LA "exports" significantly more culture than NYC

>beta cities
hah, betas

sound naive and very vague

nyc was relevant in art like in performative art, but wasnt such a centerpiece of every genre of art. in contemporary arts/music/conceptual art, most "powers" as HQ were placed in western europe, especially France, like IRCAM, Pompidou Centre etc. today contemporary arts have become out of fashion and lackluster, made nothing new, hasnt even had any center anymore.

which filmmakers anyway. nyc doesnt have strong one like Wenders, Godard, Tarkovsky Herzog in this regard. shitty indie "experimental" films made by artschool students cant be counted because its just shit films nobody else cares about other than insiders.

That would seem hard to properly quantify.
Let's just agree that the US still exports a lot of culture.
Considering economy and politics as well, I'm sure NYC would end up being the US's gateway to the rest of the world, and the only likely contestant for being world capital.

1. Helsinki
2. New york
3. London
4. Mockba

Montevideo

This tbqh.
If I want to fly to East Asia for cheap I always have to pass through Helsinki.

>Because of its relevancy in economics and politics.
The biggest, most important american companies are not based in NY and american politics are made in Washington.
>for most of the world the US still dictates pop music
Even if it were true, american pop-culture is made in LA, not in New York.

>London is the financial capital of the world
You mean New York.

>The biggest, most important american companies are not based in NY and american politics are made in Washington.
Being officialy based in Delaware due to tax reasons does not count as not being ruled from New York.
>Even if it were true, american pop-culture is made in LA, not in New York.
What the Brit said. If you both say so you guys are probably right, but apparently that does not dictate what it means for a city to be a capital.

Look at it like this. What is the single most relevant country by size of GDP, military, decisiveness in politics, and influence over international institutions?
And if this country's capital were not Washington D.C., what would be its most likely non-memey capital?

I'll just add one last piece for London as the world capital:
timezones motherfucker

t. inventors of time and centre of the universe

honestly, the museums/cultural elements was a bad example from the yank. there are some arguments for new york, but I'd put: london, la, paris, stp, moscow and rome at the same level for those kind of offerings (museums, theatre, fancy shit)

the hermitage is the best museum in the world

>Capital of the World

Barcelona

Jerusalem

:^)

Jerusalem of course

The biggest, most important and influental american companies in the world are Apple, Alphabet(Google), Microsoft and Facebook. All these companies are, and always were, based on US East Coast. American pop-culture, which is the only culture that America is famous for in the world, is mostly made in LA. American poltical and military establishment is based in Washington, DC. All I'm trying to say is that the days when New York could be considered a world capital are long over.

shangai or bejiing ?

NYC, idiot.

*west coast

London's importance is overplayed. It's not anymore important than Paris is for the colonial legacy both cities represent (the Commonwealth and Le monde francophonie). While I don't like New York and prefer Los Angeles, New York is recognized as the capital of the whole world. Someone from India might look at London as a sort of external capital and someone from Algeria might look at Paris in the same light, but the Londoner and Parisian looks to New York.

London now
New York after Brexit

NYC GDP: 1,559 billion USD
LA GDP: 867 billion USD
US economy is not dictated by its four largest companies.
American politics have always been based in DC, that doesn't have anything to do with NYC's time being "long over".
American pop culture was exported successfully due to the US' strong economical ties with most of the world.

New Yorkberg

>london
Shithole

>NYC
Boring, too far away for most of population.
It has to be in Europe.

Constantinople or Rome

Wait, what? I thought all these tech companies had most of their offices in California except for Microsoft in Washington. The only tech company that comes to mind based in New York is IBM. I think you're way off, Pyotr.

Anyway, you are downplaying the role New York has in finance too much. Check out the salaries someone in finance makes in New York compared to London. Those numbers alone sure shows who has power.

and London again when we become a tax haven.

The world's capital can only be

A A C H E N
>fr.: Aix-la-Chapelle
>lat. Aquæ Granni

ALL HAIL CHARLEMAGNE

I don't really understand what is your argument In order for a city to be considered "the world capital" it needs to wield an enourmous influence on international scale. The most influentual internationally companies are not based in NY, world-famous pop culture is not produced in NY, american political decisions are not made in NY. All the most prestigious american centers of high learning, which attract international students, are not in NY. By no means can these days NY be considered "the world capital".

The Hague

I dont think you would benefit from an economic war with EU

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_based_in_New_York_City

Read it and try not to weep, tovarish.

I even corrected myself, Jose, despite the fact that it was obviously a mistype.

>New York or London
good one, normies.

>the list of "literally whos"
Sorry, pal, but these days NY is just a smelly, dirty shadow of its former self.

Nothing wrong with Latinas. At least they are Christian, unlike your rising mudslime population. We've never had Chechnya levels of fuckedupness.

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Are Oxford and Cambridge in London?
My country's capital is Amsterdam, but our government resides in Den Haag. Does that make Amsterdam not our capital?
Are you literally unable to read the GDP numbers I provided you with, or are you ignoring them on purpose to selectively look only at the top 4 companies because their location happens to agree with your point?

>call an american "Jose" in jest
>he is actually Jose
kek

youtube.com/watch?v=xg22LDQA69A

Best German city I've been to.
But nowhere near the status of world capital.

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Your ignorance doesn't change the fact that these media, arts, finance, tech, and commerce companies are among the most powerful in the world. A lot of the largest companies also have offices in Manhattan because it's just good for business to have a little something in New York City. I can't say even say that about San Diego where I live, which, when combined with Tijuana (let's face it, the border is an arbitrary line considering how many of them work here), is probably among the top ten biggest cities in the world.

Palestine or Istanbul.