Britain

> Britain
Commonwealth

> France
Francophonie

>Portugal
> CPLP

But why didn't Spain create a community?

is it impossible? Do Latin American countries hate Spain a lot?

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because spaniards and hispanoamericans are extremely butthurt towards each other

Would it make a difference though?

>Francophonie
no such thing
it's just a word to describe the quality of talking french
there's no organisation, community or anything

We dont care about you. You are the ones who are burthurt about Spain and basically want us to fucking die. Daily remenber, that many hispanoamericans support our independentist movements.

That thing is deader than dead.
>is it impossible? Do Latin American countries hate Spain a lot?
They don't, it's because we didn't want to do it originally that it ended up in nothing. The fucking subhuman that was Fernando VII destroyed any chance of having a proper connection.
Political relationships are basically non-existent between Spain and the ex-colonies, we only have connections through investment.

yes, if it's a Spanish community, it's a community..

but Is not it exactly Spain + Portugal community?

Thats not my point

i dont

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latin america became independent when the king of Spain was kidnapped by Napoleon (there were still many years of civil war in Latin America between independentists and loyalists, and a failed attempt of reconquista by Spain a few years later, but roughly thats what happened).

Spain was a mess for a century and a half, from that moment, till the 1960s when Franco abandoned his old economic ideas and put some modern tecnocrats in power.
During that century and a half there were many civil wars in Spain, and also a quite large emmigration to the Americas, especially Argentina, Cuba and Uruguay.

Latin America and Spain were very distant for almost a century, from independence, until the Spanish American war when they lost Cuba, Puerto Rico and the Philippines, from that moment on Latin Americans (I mean from Spanish speaking countries) begun to fear the USA more and saw Spain with more sympathy.

There is no such a thing as the commonwealth, because Latin America got its independence in a different way, Spain and Latin America were very distant for almost a century, almost all the XIX century, American countries have very different economies, some trade a lot with the USA, others trade a lot with China, some are very protectionists, others have very low taxes, Spaniards prefered to associate themselves more with Europe from the EU on (to end the Spain is different thing they had under Franco), and Mexico tried to do the same with Nafta and North America (seeing themselves as north americans, like Yanks and Cannucks) and not Latin Americans, although it seems Trump will prove that was a bad bet.

I dont understand why some people want unity at all costs. there are different regions in the planet.

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>S.Korea

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>There is no such a thing as the commonwealth, because Latin America got its independence in a different way, Spain and Latin America were very distant for almost a century, almost all the XIX century, American countries have very different economies,

interesting
If you were independent in the mid-1900s, would the Spanish community be like the Commonwealth?

Yes, we joined the Francophonie (observer) in 2016 with ontario(canada) and argentina

Castillans can barely keep their country together so let alone having time to care about their rape babies on the other side of the ocean.
In any case they got totally evicted from their influences in South America by americans, France was never really great at the colonial thing but spaniards were just straight up awful.

>"muh gold"
>they mine dozen of times more gold in one month than what spaniards took ("""stole""") in years
>still shitholes

Ah, based Argentina and Uruguay, my favorite Sudaca countries

>evicted from their influences
>2nd largest investor in LatAm
>unironically saying France isn't the WORST colonial power
At least at some point Spanish colonies were good, there's not a single good French colony and there has never been.

>France was never really great at the colonial thing but spaniards were just straight up awful
Can you name a single French colony that is not a a pile of rubbish? If Quebec counts Spain can claim the Netherlands,Lombardy,California,Florida,New Mexico,Texas,Utah or Colorado amogst othere

>I dont understand why some people want unity at all costs. there are different regions in the planet.
It looks cool on maps

There isn't a commonwealth because their retard king refused when we asked them to make one.

so irrelevant i didn't know about it

>be me
>help napoleon invade portugal
>napoleon betrays me and also invades spain
>creoles in the colonies see this as an opportunity to rebel since my family has been fucking with them for centuries with the caste system and the bourbon laws
>thankfully they are losing because of the royalist
>joseph bonaparte becomes the new king of spain
>he installs liberal ideas with the help of the liberal spaniards
>royalists in the colonies see him and the liberals as an enemy and turn in favor of the independence
>royalists sign the independence
>get invited to become emperor of new spain by royalists
>refuse
>rekt all the liberals in Spain and become king again
>get rid of the liberal ideas that would have help the spanish people
>now that they are independent, get invited to form a commonwealth between spain and the ex-colonies
>refuse
>refuse to recognize the independence for decades
>try to invade Mexico once more
>get rekt’d for good
>finally recognize the independence two decades later
>everyone is now poor, weak, divided, in constant civil war and with fears of being invaded by every other power of the time
>spanish empire no longer exists

>that's me
>Ferdinand VII
>the man who lost more than anyone else in history

He did something right.Imagine a union with a bunch of dumb sudacas with no borders.Things would be even shittier than they are today.The independence of America was a blessing for this country (and a huge fucked up for yours)

>2nd largest investor in LatAm
But you have no power there, where were you during the numerous south american civil war during the last century ? Nowhere, you aren't the boss in your ex-colonies, Uncle Sam is.

At least at some point Spanish colonies were good, there's not a single good French colony and there has never been.
>what is Québec
>what is Vietnam
>what is Louisiana
>what are the DOM TOM
Algeria was a little eden under french rule too.

Also we colonized you, checkmate Juan.

>Imagine a union with a bunch of dumb sudacas with no borders
An empire? Oh that's right, he single handedly lost it.

>An empire?
Yes.The empire would have been terrible in Spain in the long run.With a bunch of lame indios voting for gibs me dats and moving the capital to Mexico or some stupid shit while migrating here.I would puke if this was our time line.

If you say so.

>you aren't the boss in your ex-colonies
Don't move the goalposts. I didn't say we are the boss, I said we still have influence.
>Québec is F-french
In an English colony.
>Viernam
Are you kidding me?
>Louisiana is F-french
In an English colony.
>DOM TOM
>implying literally WHO islands count when it's a bunch of gibsmedats living off the government

>colonized you, checkmate Juan
>1 invasion in which only one territory was formally added to France.
Fr*gs actually believe this? You didn't colonized anything and, what's more, WE colonized YOUR territories; Cataluña speak Spanish and not the barbarian speech of the Frankish Empire or, God forbid, Fr*nch.
Hell, by that logic WE colonized you first, by dicking you for 150 years with the Tercios, give back Frank-compte and the other dozens of enclaves, Jean.

At least 1/3 of California would choose to side with any Spanish speaking country over the US

>what is Québec
What is California
>>what is Vietnam
A shithole.Even worse than some south American hellholes
>>what is Louisiana
A Spanish colony
>>what are the DOM TOM
Shitholes
>Algeria was a little eden under french rule too.
kek
>Also we colonized you
Never.You tried a backstabbing invasion and you lost.We forced your king to convert to catholicism so objectively you are our colony desu sempai

Not him but:
>766.966 were born in Spain
Don't even compare.

>English colony

Québec is Francophone af, Canada is a country and it is cucked by Québécois and Americans are not English

>not the barbarian speech of the Frankish Empire or, God forbid, Fr*nch

It's the same damn thing.

Don't compare what? There are more Spaniards here than Mexicans there. And this has always been the case, from the times of the colony, your civil wars, Franco and now.

We have almost 2 million sudacas nowadays.We would have like 30 million if we were the same country.The capital would be move to a shithole in your country most likely and the DEME PAGUITAS SEÑOR SOI UN LISENSIAO party would rule for eternity

All your colonies are terrible, except maybe Argentina and Uruguay, and they're basically Italian colonies with lot of frogs

(oh and Chile)

>There are more Spaniards here than Mexicans there
Nope.Mexicans with Spanish passport are not Spanish.If you remove those there are like 10k Spaniards there working for multinationals.

>All your colonies are terrible
Name me a French colony better than California or the Netherlands.I will be waiting.

>California

If Québec is not a French colony, then California is as Spanish as Kazakhstan

>the Netherlands

...you're just baiting me, aren't you?

I see them every single day, and they are not Mexicans. We always take your refugees and we are not even their main destination, like Argentina. About half of my family came during the Franco era (I am not claiming to be white btw, because I am not). But yeah, you always come here, and you do it more than we do to your country.

There are more Spaniards here than Mexicans there. And this has always been the case.

We would choose Spain for qt hairy Spanish bf

Wait... California was developed by the United States
Not you...

I am just using your logic.Even then Argentina and Puerto Rico are wealthier than any French colony

I never said California was a French colony, tho

Holy shit its mstake
I mean you

>I see them every single day, and they are not Mexicans. We always take your refugees and we are not even their main destination, like Argentina. About half of my family came during the Franco era (I am not claiming to be white btw, because I am not). But yeah, you always come here, and you do it more than we do to your country.
M8 if you remove double nationality the numbers are tiny.
>There are more Spaniards here than Mexicans there
Double nationality=/= born in Spain

Louisiana has always been a french colony, you had a paper on it during 15 years.
There is a reason it's called LOUISiana.

>What is California
A shithole until some WASP americans moved there and expelled the "spanish subjects".

>We forced your king to convert to catholicism so objectively you are our colony desu sempai

We literally forced everyone out of Italy to convert to catholicism with the merovingians and carolingians, if it wasn't for us you would still be muslim.

>Puerto Rico

doubt.jpg

>Argentina

Of course. It's a white country, after all.

You guys barely did anything with your colonies that are states now

He claimed Quebec.I am just using his dumb logic

Puerto Rico has a GDP per capita in the 30k range

Yeah.. just my mistake
See

Florida was kind of important.Louisiana and Quebec combined had a population of 60k people.California alone had a bigger population.

Quebec wasn't even developed by France. It was junch a bunch of Metis and Indians trading fur.

Hey, claim it, I don't care.

If you say so. You are the country with more than 500,000,000 people around the world with your ancestry after all.

>WE IZ PROTEZTANZ NAOW
>Tercios BTFO the French king
>HON HON Paris is worth a mass HON HON
Literally a colony kek

We always take your refugees, and I am not talking only about Mexico.

>500,000,000 people around the world with your ancestry after all
This is for the most part fake.People that have an Spanish surname just claim that when in reality Indians were just forced to take a christian surname

>just a bunch of Métis

...and who do you think are the fucking métis ? Half Natives, half Europeans.

>All your colonies are terrible
I never said otherwise, I pointed out that France was the worst colonial power by a huge margin.
>what?
I said don't compare the minimal Spanish immigration to the immigration we receive from the old Empire. Spain is not even 90% Spanish at this point.

In Florida you guys fucked st. Augustine. The Brits invested much more into Florida. So much so that even after you got it back from them They were still operating spy agencies and shit out of it.

The biggest area you guys invested in was Santa fe where there is a dying dialect off Spanish spoken natively

the thing is that it permit france to litterally possess half of africa

*fucked around

lol

Spaniards immigrate more to Latin America than the other way around, galle.

>muh Tercios

You mean the Tercios we absolutely BTFO in 1643?

>23K French males vs 27K Spanish losers

>if it wasn't for us you would still be muslim.
YOU are literally the reason Spain had to fight for so long:
>hey, Franks, how about you help us? you are very strong as of today
>no way, fag!
>Spain does all the work
>"France did it all, honhonhon"
Disgusting Fr*nch.

>I never said otherwise, I pointed out that France was the worst colonial power by a huge margin.


Then you're right. If only we were more like the brits : "kill natives/tell them to work and fuck off/migrate there en masse"

>500,000,000 people around the world with your ancestry after all.
Yeah, 1/45667798th sure is Spanish!

500 million

You aren't going to fool me with the we wuz Spanish thing. Most of you look like you belong on a reservation

>Spaniards immigrate more to Latin America than the other way around, galle.
But that's wrong. Spanish nationalist outside of Spain are not even as many as LatAm nationals living in Spain.
Hell, most of Spanish immigrants go to France.
>finally manage to defeat the Tercios after getting FUCKED for 150 years in your OWN soil
>"F-france strong!"
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJ

HON HON HON

>Mi nombre es Ataualpa Garsía, soy española porque mi tátaratátaratátaratátaratátaratátarabuelo fue un terrateniente español

>AYAYAYAY señorito yo soy español de la misma Asturias

MUH HERITAGE It is the truth, and again, it has been like that FOREVER. From the colony to Franco.

Never claimed that those people are Spaniard, just that you are the country with more than 500 million people with your ancesty. Which is true :^)

feels bad being losers, huh?

>1 dead

Sure

>10 to 9
JAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJA

spanish are lazy fucks

No California already had Hispanic society it was just different from jew anglos when they showed up it was the wild west to them

I've always wondered do the metis look much like hisp mestizos

>War of the Seventh Coalition

IT'S CHEATING

Why did you link to that post

>2 ranchers near a mission in san diego

Look at how devolped our society is guys

>Do Latin American countries hate Spain a lot?
In every Youtube video or Plebbit comment about Spain there is the typical chicano or the typical latino always slandering and being passive agressive or directly hostile to Spain and Spaniards.

If a "latino/hispanic" has the opportunity to smear Spain and Spaniards he will never let it pass, the amount of victimism that this people have towards us is simply ridiculous. It is to such a degree that there is no reconciliation possible, they will always have this victim complex simply because we exist, and they will always be the victims even when they are the agressors, I will put you an example; in Spain we received a lot of Central and South American immigration, some of this people were the absolute worst criminal scum you can imagine: Latin Kings, Ñetas, DDP, Maras, etc.. gangs. This people committed horrendous crimes, like massive rapes that happened in the "Parque del Oeste" in Madrid, done by a group of Ecuadorians, the Ecuadorian people was completely silent when the crimes were revealed after the police cracked down on this gang, no responsibility taken, and the ambassador also silent, of course, in the end what can you expect, but wait, when a drunken Spaniard neet happened to hit in the boob an Ecuadorian girl in the Barcelona Metro there were MASSIVE demonstrations of Ecuadorians crying racism against all the Spaniards, both in Spain and in Ecuador, and even the fucking Ecuador ambassador, who was silent when their countrymen were killing and raping Spaniards, now was all upset and victimized, "oh how could this happen, the Spaniards are so racist".

I'm just tired of them, I simply don't like them anymore, they are eternal victims and this turns them into massive two-faced irresponsible hypocrites, it's disgusting, they think we dislike them because we are racist but the truth is that they are genuinely unlikable people and when a massive number of them come to your country that means trouble.

>feels bad being losers, huh?
>Fr*gs were so humiliated that they have developed selective memory and have forgotten that Spain BTFO'd them to the point that Spain became the King of Europe and the World
How does it feel knowing that you losing made us the world Superpower?

>Spain became the King of Europe and the World

thinsthatneverhappened.codex

the franco spanish war of 1595-98 ended up in the peace of vervins that even after 40 years of civil war in france ended up at france advantage so it's a victory sorry

>Never claimed that those people are Spaniard, just that you are the country with more than 500 million people with your ancesty. Which is true :^)
Then why do you even say the "500 million"? They are not Spanish and must not be brought up when speaking about Spanish immigration.

fuck spain

Because your refugees gave them socialist ideas. They keep whinging about the U.S. as well.

>muh bananas
>muh coup
>muh clay

Nosotros somos orgullosos de nuestras raíces indígenas nada más los españoles arrogantes quieren dar el sentido que a nosotros los Herederos del Imperio del Sol nos importa ser europeos o españoles