ANNO DOMMINI MMXVI

>ANNO DOMMINI MMXVI
>still no high-budget 10 episode series on the heroic struggle of christians against the muslim invaders and subsequent victory

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How come Spain and Portugal were completely absent in history after the exploration age?

Spain, too much internal struggles
Portugal still participated in some wars alongside the UK and colonization of Africa

Portugal lost its colonies and governance in Africa after the age of exploration. Changing attitudes of the time etc.
A good example is the Angolan independence war in which many Portuguese were resistant to fighting in a foreign war and thus hopped the border to spain, uk and so on.

>Portugal lost its colonies and governance in Africa after the age of exploration

age of exploration ended long before the XX century

Not absent in history but certainly overshadowed by bigger events like Napoleon and eventually the world wars. Spain waged a fuck load of wars and Portugal remained a pretty big power even in the 1800s.

I was just there for a few weeks. The mudslimes left behind some cool ass buildings.

Iberia had all the feudal oppression and over-religiosity of Imperial Russia without the massive land area and population to make it a power regardless. Europe after the 15th century was built by the Enlightenment, which took hold only in Protestant lands (Paris excluded)

nice propaganda faggot
Portugal and Spain always had smaller governments than northern countries so the State relied on sources of income they could controll easily like Gold mines in Castille for Spain and the Spice Trade for Portugal, once they were lost/exhausted the countries stoped growing

>Europe after the 15th century was built by the Enlightenment, which took hold only in Protestant lands (Paris excluded)
You forgot Poland

Well, we sank all their ships with all their gold, so go figure

they took a siesta that haven't ended yet

>Travel to north Spain for work issues
>Siesta turns out to be a myth
Fuck

dutch detected
reminder that we were weakened and had to protect a vast empire while you could attack at will and yet we beat you in most of our territory except in Indonesia where the natives helped you because they didn't liked catholic missionaries, and then they got their just reward when the dutch killed half the men, stole the land and filled the island with nigger slaves

So how is your country going, Mariano?

Yes, the Christians ""won"" against the Moors. All that effort in ""defeating"" them so they could never become a threat again. Great job.

>heroic struggle
they literally hid behind the mountains and waited a few centuries until until the arabs were done raping everyone and got too lazy to fight back, by then they were all moors anyways

less blacks and muslims than you

Why the reconquest doesn't count as a crusade? I know, I know, I'm an ignoramus

SPAIN?

Actually there was little to no mixing, if you look at the haplotypes you'll know that Spain has around 1% of African blood. Arabs mostly killed and put their own population in charge letting the few survivers be 2nd class citizens.

The first crusades or protocrusades were declared by the King of Aragon

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade_of_Barbastro

lol no
the Reconquista took centuries
the reclaimed territories were settled by northerners
no muslims were allowed to stay and the few that converted to christianity were later expelled as well or killed by the Inquisition because they were crypto-muslims and carried out terrorism

>There was little to no mixing
lel kys Paco, loads of people converted to islam to not get executed and married moors.
Proof of that is that you all look like niggers in Andalucia where moor influence was strongest

Awesome. When you look at a Crusades movie you always see Frenchs, Germans, Italians, English etc but never Spanish

>b-but muh evil whitey crusades

>All moors and converted were expelled
>You all are moor that's why you look like niggers
Ok, choose one and only one, it can't be both

>lel kys Paco, loads of people converted to islam to not get executed and married moors.

meme tier

if you converted you were treated as second class muslim by muslims and as a traitor by christians

That would be intolerant of the Muslim community. You don't want to antagonize them and push them towards terrorism, do you?

>user mentions that muslims let some survivers be 2nd class citizens
>"lol no, muslims let some survivers be 2nd class citizens"
Why are you saying he's wrong when you literally said the same?

>traitor to christians
If you didn't convert you were executed altogether, there was no one else to be a traitor except a few crypto christians

>Spain created Islamic terrorism
Fucking Spics

>american education

excpet for Andalusia muslims never were majority

>Spain was the ISIS of catholicism

Prove me wrong

>AndaluSia
>muh murrikan education
who cares if they weren't, they brought in enough settlers throughout the 6 centuries for them to mix

They got cucked by the english, then napoleon.
Hitler was their last chance.

>Foreign Empire invades you
>You defend yourself
>You're a terrorist
Ok

ITT: CRUSADE KINO

not really
Al-Andalus was medieval ISIS
they attracted men that wanted to fight by promising them loot and slaves by raiding christians
they didn't bring proper families to settle

>Cucked by English
Come on, Charles, I'm not even Spanish but you were lucky, you basically are as cocky as Japaneses with the Mongolian invasion

that cross is wrong
that's the Portuguese Order of Christ Cross

Yunno what's really funny about all this is that the Visogothic Kingdom the Muslims invaded and destroyed was an arian barbarian kingdom that was considered even more heretical than muslims were by the catholic iberians.

The funny thing is the Visogothic Kingdom was so corrupt and oppressive that people claimed for the muslim invaders as liberators and never doubted to convert to get rid of them

the spanards kept europe safe, the anglos and gabachos are fucking it

>implying I'm english
lol no
I don't know what you mean by lucky though.

Spain didn't exist until the end of the Reconquista

He's talking about La Santa Inquisición I think

>took all the silver and gold from Americas
>no need into economy because have all the gold
>inflation through the roof
>turned into zimbabwe

>things that never happened

the germanic invaders were very few and only the rulling class, it's just impossible for them to maintain any kind of oppressive system unlike the muslims

OP, we can't have a Reconquista series because all Muslims are our friends and if we show any media that portrays them in a negative manner then we are racist. Libtard here.

Machupichu detected

Iberia was so completely cucked by Roman invaders that they still use worship everything Latin 2000 years later kek.

Doesn't that happen with literally all Western Europe?

As oppossed to what? Praising fucking Boudicca or some shit?

>Raided by Celts
>Raided by Vikings
>Raided by Romans
>Raided by Suevi
>Raided by Vandals
>Raided by Visigoths
>Raided by Moors
What has Spain that makes it so visited?

the Iberian peninsula used to have lots of Silver and Gold
Rome and Carthage fought for the silver
and the gold in Castille paid for the Empire
all the silver from the americas were only 20% of Spain's budget, more than half of the costs of the Empire were paid by the Crown of CAstille

Good climate (shitty soil though), control of med. to atlantic trade, good soldiers, and ironically enough lots of gold and silver though the romans mostly dug all that up.

>victory
Kek, yeah after we made spanish blood 40% Arab, you will never recover from that.
gg no re faggots

>good soldiers
?? after the Celts shouldn't all be Celts or mixed? then after the Vikings shouldn't all be Celt/Viking? after the Romans shouldn't all be Celt/Viking/Roman etc? after a while whatever made them good from starters is already lost on all that mixing.

>40%
Try 5% at best and only on the South, Ibn

>shitty soil

That's a meme. There's a shitload of vegetables and fruit that's cultivated in Spain.

>Kek, yeah after we made spanish blood 40% Arab
>this is what ahmed al sheepfuckeri literally believe

We literally removed kebab and are still big on that.

Inquisition made sure that not to be true

Internal issues killed Spain. It still hasn't recovered.
Portugal just ended up being overshadowed by larger and more powerful entities (England, France, Prussia, etc)

As opposed to what? Bhutan? These questions go to show that you have a very poor understanding of history. Even after losing its hegemony, Spain remained a big second rate power well into 19th century.

Yes, that's the point. A second-rate power compared to a point where they were arguably leading on several levels.
The same could be said about the italian nations. They didn't disappear but they were a shadow of their former self.

Butthurt mudblood KEK
GG NO RE

Honestly, it was the Hapsburgs. Hapsburg empire looked really rich and powerful on a map, but all the wealth and attention was being spent on wars in central europe and the balkans, while spain was neglected and left in medieval mode. Big contrast with France and England which had to make due with the land and people they had and so invested a lot into them.

Nobody remembers the guy in the 4th place (not even the guy in the 2nd), you're either on top or you're nothing.

they weren't white

Go fuck your farmyard animals, Ahmed. Nobody expects you to know about history or anything that isn't cheap football tshirt imitations or faulty explosives.

It's the carlist's fault

I dont know if it was a genetic thing or cultural or what but from ancient times till like 1800 soldiers and sailors from Iberia are very well regarded many times in history.

>muslim day dreams

>Blas de Lezo

Now it gets raided by TOP LADS AVVIN' IT LARGE

PHWOAR IT'S FACKIN' 'OT M8

LOOKA THE FACKIN' ARSE ON THAT!

ANAVA RAHNDA SAN MIGWEL'S PEDRO YOU CAHNT HAHAHAHAHA

Spain was most of the Middle Ages a kind of American western place until the 14th-15th Century. Sometimes there even were places in Castile and Leon literaly called deserts (not literal deserts) that were depopulated on purpose by christians to force the muslims to not raid their populations that easy. So kings of both countries has to make settlements priviliges to invite people to live there. When those lands weren't important anymore and kings need men to fight the muslims, the were so priviliged that no one wanted to fight. Counts do what they want, kings were one more with the rest of the noblemen and the Reconquista get much longer that it should.

>BRITTANIA RULES THE WAVEEES

>tfw no series about the rise of Islam and their domination of the Sassanids and the Byzantines

According to SJW propaganda taught to children in Spain, Moorish Spain was a wonderful multicultural place.

Yeah, I'm not buying that.

There's probably not much difference between these guys and British sailors 400 years ago

Probably, Ancient Muslims were completely different to current ones. They were advanced both scientifically and psychologically, weren't as strict with Quran as now and were pretty open minded.

It's true. And it's false. People of different religions live in the same cities but they didn't live together. They lived in guettos and only co-exist because their economy was based in that. Andalusian christians were or the original population that doesn't converted to Islam or slaves from the christian kingdoms of the north (and even slaves fron eastern europe) and jews were, as in the christian kingdoms, the people who lend the money. But there were many situations of intolerance and even genocide. Spain even have a kind of ISIS movement. TWICE. The almoaravids and the almohads. When they invaded al-Andalus, they rape and killed every christian that were living in the muslim city or deported to northern Africa. So no. It wasn't a wonderful place. Not even the christian kingdoms.

Christians aren't heroic

>fighting for your homeland isn't heroic

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>fighting to expand the power of some noble douchebags at the expense of a multireligious community that barely had any conflict
Fixed.

How much of Spain was conquered by muslims? back in school teachers said it was like 99%, but the more I read the more it seems it was like 60-70%

Whole Spain except for the northen mountains were some tribes live. it wasn't a very interesting place so they passed it.

>Byzantium is begging for help
>End up sacking Constantinople

JUST

Not even close, Galicia and leon was almost intact, same as Asturies, Vasque Country, north or Navarra and north of Catalunya. If I had to say a number it would be like 75% "conquered".

Fuck, forgot pic

Galicia, Asturias, Cantabria and Basque Country are in the northern mountains. Galicia and Leon were conquered but they for a very short time. Battles like Covadonga (if it was real) show to us that Cordoba didn't give a fuck. if they keep them or not. There were no resources, no cities and had very little population.

That's a 9th century map. The correct is this one.

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The war on Moors would be fun, but the ass-kicking of Spain by Portugal time after time would make for a better underdog story. We kicked their asses 1:5 like 4 times over the centuries.

Why is Basque Country so based?
>Never invaded
>National pride without being as annoying as catalonians
>Most unique language in the world
>Hot women
>Shitty weather, so you don't have to deal with tourists
>GOAT TV shows Vaya Semanita and Que Vida Más Triste

pls adopt