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Legitimately the worst film I've seen all year
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Watch it again when you're not a fucking pussy.
>Watch it again
The action is far too boring for that.
Second best movie of the year next to BvS
Just like BvS the characters are thinly written, characters "change of heart" has no connective tissue "Martha", "bar scene". and motivations carry no weight.
Horrible pacing: Many flashbacks that cut the pace, mixed with dream/hallucination scenes. At one point there even was a short flashback explaining smoething really basic which had already happened on the movie itself (can´t remember the exact example, it may be something related tot he Enchartess´ heart). Bio introductions for many characters and then but-wait-here-come-3-new-characters-out-of-nowhere! They´re important too, except rope guy, but please don´t think he isn´t because we spent 3 seconds on him...ooops he´s gone! Haha bet you didn´t see it coming, how we we were going to decapitate this integral, central to the plot member of the team!! /s
Lame characters: This is supposed to be a squad formed to stop Superman-level threats, yet most of it´s members can only shoot weapons, throw blades, climb really fast (wtf?) or use a baseball bat. It´s like an Avengers movie where you take out Thor, Iron Man and Hulk and replace them with lamer versions of HawkEye. BTW, HawkEye is awesome compared to most of the cast in SS, at least he has the secret spy angle going for him. He could easily take down all members of SS except maybe Diablo and I´m not a fan of HawkEye.
Boring action scenes: Horde mode where the enemies always miss and the main characters always hit the mark. No decently coreographed fights, just yesterday I saw some Arrow chapters and the action there was a lot better than in this movie. Deadshot is awesome because he never misses, that somehow gives him a superpower to allow him to go out in the open durign a shootout and not get hit once.
No teamwork: Everyone has a little scene to shine, but there´s no teamwork whatsoever. Things like Iron Man shooting at Cap´s shield to reflect the ray, or Hulk laying down a metal piece for Thor to slam it into one of those big aliens were great. But in this movie you don´t see anyting like that, everyone just shoots at their targets and doesn´t interact with the rest of the team at all during action scenes. Special mention for the last scene, where Croc throws the explosives for Deadshot to shoot at them. They had a guy in the team whose special abbility was that he throws things but no, let´s use Killer Croc instead. Seems like no one knew what to do with these characters or how to use them at all. This affected immensely the action sequences pacing: it was senseless action scenes one after another where you knew that "now Capt. Boomerang will do something because it´s his turn", "Katana hasn´t done anything yet, it´s her turn now....yep, there it is". Everything was disconnected like completing independent bullet points on a checklist, without any intent to tie them all together into something bigger and better.
Will Smith was cool, but I couldn´t stop seeing him as Will Smith, not another character and in this situation it was impossible to not like the character since the first moment. Despite his efforts to remind us that he´s a bad guy it was totally unbelievable. Will is a cool guy, there´s no way we´re going to see him as something evil and reprobable if you just make him go out and say some sentences instead of acting as someone else.
Harley was great sometimes and dull in many others: I hated that when she got surprised crying on top of the car, she wiped her tears away and put on a fake smile as if nothing happened. It wouldn´ve been much more believable for her to have a nervous breakdown and don´t give 2 shits if she´s surprised crying, go on a rampage and attack the soldiers or something...hell, that would´ve been a very nice chance for the team to bond: make them stop her, calm her down and comfort her. That scene make her whole persona look fake to me, another of many instances of the characters trying to be edgy and failing at it. When she steals the purse, her reply was really cringeworthy ("we´re the bad guys, it´s what we do"). Instead she should have made that seem natural to her and act surprised or confused at the complaints of the soldiers.
"This is my family" moment (Diablo): Totally unearned and out of nowhere.
Katana at the bar: I couldn´t understand why she went to the bar instead of with the soldiers, apart of "because the script says we now need a bonding sequence at the bar". Katana´s whole pressence in the film felt unjustified.
The whole movie reeks of tryhardness: The Shadow the Hedgehog meme where he says "It´s like stealing candy from a kid, which is totally fine for me" constantly came to my mind during the film. These guys aren´t evil, save Captain Boomerang maybe.
Tell, don´t show: The movie is constantly telling us that the characters are bad guys, but instead is showing us at everytime that they really aren´t. Diablo was the worst offender, he was shown as a pacifist for 99% of his screentime and only a short flashback showed him as a gangster. This is bad storytelling and I even find it insulting and simpleminded: don´t tell me these guys are the worst of the worst if I´m seeing they aren´t. Don´t make them say at every time that they´re bad while they fall short on that, make them do bad stuff instead so I can reach that conclusion on my own in a much more natural and powerful way. The movie was trying to lie in our faces at every turn like we were stupid.
The secret files: After finding the dossier everyone was really outraged at the soldiers and went to the bar to vent. I really didn´t understand this. These are supposed to be villains, men and women capable of the worst with lacking moral, but they were really offended when the same organization that has kept them captive, implanted an explosive on their necks and forced them to go out and risk their lives, was responsible for the whole mess present on the city. I don´t get it. This only served to, once again and despite everything the movie was trying to say, show the characters as good guys. Everything that came after this seemed false and hard to believe.
Me too: As happened with BvS, this movie clearly shows WB´s and DC´s combined intents to replicate Marvel´s MCU´s success and strategy. And as happened with BvS, it also felt flat and was harmed by it. I couldn´t help but compare it with the latest Captain America movie at every turn. Suicide Squad just tried to introduce many characters, give us some small info and done! We´re supposed to instantly grow attached to them and think they´re cool. Show a little flashback, make the character talk about how he wants to be seen and we´re set. Well, I have some bad news: it doesn´t work like that. The DCU is trying to run before learning to walk and I really think they should employ more time in each character and introduce them more slowly, develop them more and make each one show their personality. Make a movie about the Flash and maybe introduce 1 or 2 other important characters, like Marvel does (Ant Man and Falcon in Ant Man, Black Panther and Spidey in Civil War, Vision and Wanda in Avengers 2...). That way everyone has time to show who they are while you develop the plot. Not like this film (or BvS) where you have 7 or 8 characters fighting for screen time while a plot totally unrelated to any of them develops on the background.