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duolingo.com/ >Duolingo is a free language-learning platform that includes a language-learning website and app, as well as a digital language proficiency assessment exam. Duolingo offers all its language courses free of charge.
>Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30+ languages.
fsi-languages.yojik.eu/languages/oldfsi/index.html >Drill based courses with text and audio.The Foreign Service Institute (FSI) is the United States federal government's primary training institution for employees of the U.S. foreign affairs community.These courses are all in public domain and free to download.Site may go down sometimes but you can search for fsi on google and easily find a mirror.
memrise.com/ >Free resource to learn vocabulary, nice flash cards.
lingvist.com/ >It's kinda like Clozemaster in the sense that you get a sentence and have to fill in the missing word, also has nice statistics about your progress, grammar tips and more information about a word (noun gender, verb aspects for Russian, etc.)
ankisrs.net/ >A flash card program
clozemaster.com/languages >Clozemaster is language learning gamification through mass exposure to vocabulary in context.Can be a great supplementary tool, not recommended for absolute beginners.
tatoeba.org/eng/ >Tatoeba is a collection of sentences and translations with over 300 hundred languages to chose from.
radio.garden/ >Listen to radio all around the world through an interactive globe
Would I be able to read complicated books and speak at ease in Japanese after 4-5 years of serious studying and surrounding myself with the language by means of the internet?
Liam Turner
Turkish is getting harder with all the suffixes. Also my schedule said I haven't listened to a podcast in over a week. At least I do my Anki flashcards daily.
Owen Johnson
With any language you would able to do that if you're serious and study multiple hours a day. Even Chinese or Japanese.
Camden Ross
>tfw language.ws is dead
Lucas Jenkins
Do "ι" and "ö" are the same sound
Andrew Edwards
What is .ws?
Jaxon Baker
Waziristan
Jaxson Mitchell
Do you think it is possible to get to the same level of fluency and passive comprehension natives have? Excluding foreign accent, of course.
Mason Kelly
Not really.
Zachary Edwards
Is it really that difficult? The reason I'm asking is because it was a cinch for me to get to the level where I could read classic novels in English in a matter of just a few years. Not to mention it didn't take much effort.
Camden Peterson
Japanese isn't English. Multiply the effort/time it took you to learn English by a factor of 5~6 to get a general idea of how long it would take.
Angel Wright
I'm afraid you're exaggerating a tad bit. And granted it is more difficult, but I have a hard time believing your estimates.
Hunter Brown
I'd say he's right. I tried learning Japanese for a while and it's much harder than I reckon English would be for a Ukrainian. It's so far removed from Indo-European languages in terms of grammar, vocabulary, orthography, just about everything.
Jackson Price
Not exaggerating one bit, and keep in mind your ability to memorize millions of collocations *will* turn to shit as you grow older. Tick tock.
Xavier Brooks
>and keep in mind your ability to memorize millions of collocations *will* turn to shit as you grow older For me it's actually the contrary.
Leo Mitchell
k, knock yourself out
Adam Walker
strange reply
Jason Cooper
bump
Jacob Evans
basic english or all the extras
Anthony Green
jan pi toki pona li lon seme? mi taso li lon ni anu seme? ;-;
Adrian Fisher
...
Noah Phillips
Why am I almost done with my tree, and yet only 47% through the course?
Matthew Evans
What language are you learning m8?
Allegedly every word you encounter in that tree are common words and you get exposed to them so that counts towards your fluency rating.Since they didn't show all the words you can encounter irl they can only say your fluency is 50 percent or so.
Cooper Collins
Not stranger than claiming you age in reverse.
"All the extras" I guess. You'll have to take my word for it, only a tiny elite minority of weebs actually make it. That's the reality.
Ethan Richardson
Is anyone learning Bahasa Indonesia here?
So it stops at 50% and basically says "we can't take you any further and you need to find other resources" ? I also have the Assimil method but have stopped using it since it's less flexible. I'll resume my learning with it once I'm done with duo.
Oliver Price
Portuguese officially but sometimes I learn how to read or pronounce alphabets in other languages
Carter Ward
Well, in all fairness, I'm far from being an old man. You're too literal and extreme in your reasoning.
Luis Bennett
mi lon, jan suwi mi.
Zachary Taylor
Is it Indonesian?
Juan Murphy
no, it's toki pona, a minimal constructed language. it's a lot of fun if you like languages. have a look at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toki_Pona
Camden Torres
toki, jan pona mi o. tenpo suno ni la sina pilin seme?
Benjamin Morgan
bump
Oliver Bennett
Bump for German.
Advice for making a study plan? Should I focus on topics (hobbies, family, education, etc) or should I focus on things like verbs/nouns/adjectives, or should I just work out a schedule of what to do like "chapter of x, read y amount of articles, listen to z and watch b?"
Adrian Hall
learning russian atm
fucking verbs man
Colton Russell
German has still very conservative gramatical features compared to most western European languages in form of its case system.
So you definitely dive right into grammar as soon as you have played around with a few words and greetings. It's always good to be able to talk a bit about yourself,and present yourself(the hobby part). Look up the related words. This will help you kick off a simple conversation where you will use all the additional vocabulary to form your first robot sentences.
Oliver Nelson
>German has still very conservative gramatical features compared to most western European languages in form of its case system. My biggest problem is people using "nominative/genitive", when I read them I understand how they're used but almost immediately I forget what the fuck they mean. I'd much rather learn by mimicking a native than sitting down with a grammar book.
Andrew Howard
>Decide I want to try to learn Hindi because I'll probably end up working in India at some point >There are fuck all resources for it >The writing is mental
Shit.
Dylan Martinez
I definitely see how deducting the correct usage will help you to retain newly learned information but trying to figure out how a whole language works just from being exposed to native material doesn't seem to be very efficient.
Don't regard the whole thing in this dichotomic fashion. Sure, everyone learns a language in a slightly different way, for motivational or other reasons.
I'm just telling you that in order to form a correct sentence in German you have to know an awful lot about inflections which gives it a steep learning curve in the beginning due to this particular aspect and that's why you shouldn't neglect it.
Jackson Perry
It takes professional learners, with the best teachers and resources the US military can provide, 88 weeks/2200 hours (25 class hours per week) to get to B2. These guys are highly motivated, learn full time and are surrounded by like minded learners (also get paid trips to the country and do homework every night).
It's generally recommended to double the time it took you to get to B2 to get to C2.
Unless you are prodigy it's very unlikely you'll be reading native books in Japanese in 5 years.
Benjamin Thomas
>Hindi
Here are few Hindi resources i found when i should have been learning.
Are you that former member of the polyglot community dude?
Robert Richardson
Well, I have two grammar books, that I can reference. The main point I was raising is I was wondering how I should prioritise my study.
Also, are there any German-sites you'd recommend? Preferably normie/quasi-normie sites so I avoid the made-up-words shite.
Juan Ward
I just had a look, and apparently Duolingo are going to be adding it, so I might wait for that. I'll have a look at the stuff you've recommended though, thanks.
Nolan James
I'm considering learning Russian as well, is it extremelly difficult? How much use can you get out of it?
Charles Gutierrez
Not sure what you mean. I've been a member of a few language learning forums but mostly as a lurker.
Nolan Wilson
If there are no other sites available is rosetta stone acceptable?
Jayden Garcia
There used to be a British flag poster that used to be part of the inner circle of that polyglot youtuber community.
William Miller
Not really into normie stuff, sorry. I just read news.
John Perry
Classrooms are pretty shit though. Even a university course on a language (a full time workload) will teach students less than what a motivated autist could accomplish. There's that whole thing about duolingo being superior to colleges for a reason.
There are plenty of horror stories about people getting a degree in Mandarin and being hopeless with native speakers, or Japanese students that learn 10 - 20 words per week instead of per day.
If you're really interested, there's the /djt/ on Sup Forums which has a lot of dedicated learners.
Aaron Phillips
Discipline beats motivation but obsession beats discipline.
Adam Cruz
FSI classes aren't like university classes. The entire program is designed to pump out quality foreign language speakers.
From what I've read they are generally small groups and a lo of the study time is tailored to each student e.g. if you learn best by conversation they'll find you a native speaker to spend time talking to, if you learn best by doing grammar drills you'll spend much of your time doing grammar drills. If you can't keep up with the course you get pushed back a class and if you fail that one you get kicked off the course.
So not only are they being paid, they are on a course to be as efficient as possible while surrounded by highly motivated learners.
Thomas Phillips
Could i be fluent in spanish in 3 to 5 years with less than one hour every day ?
I'm a native English speaker, and I'm native-level fluent in Spanish (currently coing for a BA in Spanish, actually, with the goal of becoming a Spanish professor), and semi-fluent in Japanese. What language should I study next? I've been thinking either French or Portuguese, which would be easy and useful for me.
Landon Gomez
languages can be complex in different ways.
Justin Foster
As a native French speaker? Definitely, I'd say even less. It's more important to be consistent than to learn in a bulk.
Caleb Myers
mandarin shits pretty easy if you're good at japanese
Cooper Torres
You can read books at less than B2 though. Also I'm pretty sure those figures are at least for C1 since they claim to be for "proficiency"
If I can read novels in Japanese with minimal dictionary use (less than once a page) after 3 years of not knowing what I'm doing and taking 3 month breaks to play video games then you can do it in 4-5 years.
