Germans are just Polish/French rapebabies

Germans are just Polish/French rapebabies

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>and British, American, Russian rape banies

I am greek

Germany is our colony

no, I am Swedish

This

And?

it means you are not a people, your identity is founded on a lie

every country's identity is founded on a lie if you goes far enough in the past desu

STFU
U mongol rapebaby
Respect our Kaisers

No, the French are Frankish rapebabies

Germanys foundation is even weaker than the rest though, it should be separated between Poland and the French.

Our lie is the Ga*lish, it's just a simple error easily forgivable but their lie is to claim both French(Franks) and Polish(Vandals/Prussians) accomplishmsents

Nah, French and Poles are german rapebabies.

"Germans" are not even a thing

Incredible!
What will our proud population, that cares so much about their germanic identity, do now?
They will probably never recover.

>it means you are not a people
No shit we are not a people you idiot. There is no ethnic group of "germans", there are a bunch of different ethnic groups of central germanic speaking people that came to hate veryone around them slightly more than eachother and teamed up into one country.

We never even claim otherwise, Germans are a political group, its just retarded foreigners that think we are a "people".

I think Europe is a big old mixture were everybody raped everybody at one time or another.

Nope we're just Franks, you are the rape babies tho

Sure, if you want to be all reasonable and pragmatic about it.

These Swedish flag cunt has been going in hard with the threads recently. Weirdo needs a hobby.

>be yuropeen
>entire ancestral line is just you being raped repeatedly

>be glorious American
>entire ancestral line is love-making between two powerful races

Germs have always been a thing, since recorded history.

And the two powerful races are?

So your Germans like us!
Noice
Now I don't have to hate u anymore

>we're just Franks
And Celtic/Roman/German (other than franks)
Every Euro is mixed as fuck.

Maybe you shouldn't have come up with the whole "master race" thing then.

>Every Euro is mixed as fuck.
not so fast, mutt

You guys are those same euro-rapemixes that then mixed native indians and niggers in addition.

t. Mongol pedigree

Don't say that you're going to trigger his autism, he has been posting non stop for months now about his delusions

Just check out this thread

You're still very mixed. Not as much as most others, indeed.

>Maybe you shouldn't have come up with the whole "master race" thing then.
Actually we didn't. A whole bunch of different people came up with that.

true

genetics disagree

t. Alberto Barbosa
sure if you go 10,000 years back

Actually a frenchman did
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_de_Gobineau
We're not original enough for that sort of thing.

>The illusion of a "pure" race
It doesn't exist. It never existed.

Everyone in France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Western Germany is a Frankish rapebaby. But people that live in the region I coloured red are the closest ones to genuine Franks, even though we have Gallo Roman admixture just like you guys

Fuck off statist cuck

We are not slave of a land like you germshit

You seriously try to convince us there isn't a ton of Sven and Ivan in your genepool?

We're the Franks, you're mostly Gaulish.

>genetics disagree
Nope, genetics disagree with you. R1a has been found in Scandinavia and Germany alike before Poland and autsomally these R1a bronze age germans have been identical to modern germanic people. Stop falling for memes

I'm not saying they are pure, I'm saying the french person who believes he's trojan is and posts 24/7 about germany being french is an autist

I hope you realise franks didn't spontanously grew out of the earth in that reagion but had migrated there earlier.
So "we are franks" is completly meaningless because franks were just a tribe that consisted of people that sure as hell had mixed with others on their travel.

>We're the Franks
not really, the Franks invaded Belgium before invading Gallia. You're as "Franks" as us.
>statist cuck
Do you mean facts cuck? And what are you exactly, explain please.

We don't have any Gallo-Roman admixture if we would look like like you(Nordic)

>I'm not saying they are pure, I'm saying the french person who believes he's trojan is and posts 24/7 about germany being french is an autist

Yes, I was talking about him.

>French are mostly Gaulish
>Gaulish were blue-grey eyed, blond-red haired, and tall
>French aren't

Sure Belgiorix

>It doesn't exist. It never existed.
I'm not so sure, there might be some isolated tribes in eastern central africa that count.

Uhm we don't look nordic and neither do you. We're Celto-Germanic, but the more north you go the less Celtic admixture there is going to be. Flanders and the southern Netherlands have less Gallo Roman blood, but they still have some.

Also, eugenics are an Anglo invention.

Franks were a confederation of local tribes at both sides of the Rhine. The local Belgae tribes were part of them, and in fact financed their army in the early days through salt production and trade.

What the tribes that became the Franks had in common were the fact that they had or used to have a Gaulish speaking nobility, and half their tribal names were derived from Gaulish.

They basically united because they wanted to live within the Roman Empire but not pay taxes.

>le pole in malmö
grzgzgegggge kameilzkzkzkkakzkkakzksky, please

Gauls weren't one and the same people, they varied even in Gaul, hence why Caesar classified them in three groups.

pic related is a statue called the dying Gaul, from ancient Greece depicting a Gaulish invader in the Balkans around the 2nd century BC

Not only does he look pretty much exactly like a friend of mine, there are many such types at least here in coastal Flanders

official motto of Flanders: Vrank en Vrij (Frank and Free)

>classifying angry potato-niggers as powerful
kys

WTF how will the French ever recover...?

Ammainius Marcelinus who lived around 330-400 and went to Gaul is clear NEARLY ALL the Gauls are FAIR HAIRED(rutili which mean red-blond) RUDDY(candidi which mean pale-bright) and TALL(celsioris which mean lofty-towering) he also states that Gaulish women had BLUE EYES(glauca which mean blue-green)

>Ammainius Marcelinus


Ammianius Marcelinus

fixed

In case none of you guys are not just LARPing, I hope you realise the romans are known to be notoriously unreliable as their accounts because of their tendency to blatantly make shit up.

damn, the shitskins really reproduce well. according to ancient descriptions apparently half of Europe was fully red-haired and blue-eyed

what a racial tragedy!!!!

W-we wuz king?

Also the Salian Franks were the first Frankish confederation to form, before the Ripuarian Franks. Salian Franks conquered Gaul, named it France and became the Merovingian dynasty. Ripuarian Franks only took over with Charlemagne (who was born in Herstal btw, again Belgium). So the original Franks were the local tribes of Belgium and the Southern Netherlands.

Later the West-Germanic tribes followed our example and united as Saxons and Allemanni.

Read Gregory of Tours' History of the Franks for example.

hell even the Irish aren't as red-haired and blue-eyed as some of those ancient tribes of Europe apparently. must be all this admixture from umm erm

Did your ancestors make shit up when they depicted themselves ?

>named it France and became the Merovingian dynasty
It wasn't named france until long after the merovingian dynasty had been deposed.
Fake and gay.

This

>Did your ancestors make shit up when they depicted themselves ?
Lets be realistic, probably.

No Ivan. I never understood why some would suggest that anyway.

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>Finland
>RUS
>mean (M)
>0.004
Yeah, so 0.4%.

Those few Finns who are mixed with Russians from the Autonomy days are only 10% Russian.
>mean-if-present (Mp)
>0.1

>Charlemagne (who was born in Herstal btw, again Belgium
Aachen is just as commonly assumed, no one really knows except for that general area.
For fucks sake man, Belgium didn't even exist until some Dutch people got butthurt about protestantism. Trying to trace some frankish racial identity is just ridiculous.

>Read Gregory of Tours' History of the Franks for example.


He states that Franks come, from Pannonia and distinguish them from the Germanic, are you sure you want them to read this book ?

We iz

It is nonsense, Greek and Phoenician colonisation of Southern Gaul and subsequent intermixing with the Gauls produced swarthy people long before Caesar came and documented it. Still I'd say that Caesars general impression is more trustworthy.

If you actually think that pre-Roman Gaul was one racially pure country of people who all looked exactly the same, then you're pretty stupid.

Spaniards and Poirtuguese were Celts too yet they weren't blonde and blue eyed; neither were the so-called Black Irish who had Celt-Iberian roots.

The Galatians too were described as swarthy, naturally as they were related to the Volcae of southern Gaul.

Yet they all spoke the same language, that is because the Celts were the strongest people in pre-imperial Roman days, and Gaulish was spoken even by the Danish nobility (Kimbri and Teutones, kings had names such as Boiorix).

Bohemian Slavs were described as more swarthy than the rest of the Slavs, that is actually because there was a good part of Central European Celtic (Boii) remnants there. Even today they suffer from the "Celtic disease", haemochromatosis, or inability to uptake sufficient iron, caused by a genetic defect typical with Celtic people.

>that is because the Celts were the strongest people in pre-imperial Roman days
Its because romans called everyone in europe north and west of them a celt unless they were germanics.
And these people spook as much the same language as modern germans, dutch and flemish people speak the same language.
Celts are just a descriptor for the general vague cultural group of people that lived in most of europe while the germanics chilled out in jutland until the climate changed and forced them to migrate south.

Still France became the new name of Gaul after the Franks had conquered it.

Belgian people's genetical profile is the same since the 5th century at least. Also you just have to travel through here and NL to see that we look different than Northern and Northeastern NL people, they are taller and blonder than us for one.

And it is well documented that the Franks formed from local tribes here, I can give you some names if you want: Tencteri, Salii, Sicambri, Chattuari, Chamavii, Usipeti, Tubanti...

>He actually believes the mythological bloodline the Franks invented for themselves after establishing as rulers.

I take it you believe that the Romans originate from Aeneas the Trojan too according to Vergilius?

>Gauls produced swarthy people long before Caesar came and documented
>ignore testimonies
>start making shit up

SO

Strabo, Ammianus, Livy, and all other romans lied just to allow the French to claim that they were Frankish ?

Did they conspirate with the French ?

>The Galatians too were described as swarthy, naturally as they were related to the Volcae of southern Gaul.

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA


You're blablantly lying my friend Galatians were said as GIGANTIC and RED HAIRED
Titus Livius (Livy), The History of Rome, Book 38
Evan T. Sage, Ph.D., Ed.
17. Since war was to be waged with this enemy, so terrible to all the inhabitants of this region, the consul summoned an assembly and addressed the soldiers in about this fashion: [2] “It does not escape me, soldiers, that of all the peoples who inhabit Asia the Gauls stand first in reputation for war. [3] Among peoples of the most unwarlike sort this fierce tribe, travelling up and down in war, has almost made the world its residence. [4] TALL BODIES, long [p. 57]REDDISH HAIR, huge shields, very long swords; in1 addition, songs as they go into battle and yells and leapings and the dreadful din of arms as they clash shields according to some ancestral custom —all these are deliberately used to terrify their foes.

>Belgian people's genetical profile is the same since the 5th century at least
"Belgian people" are durch people who didn't want to stop being catholic. The genetic profile is stable since the migration era like most of europes for the same reason, trying to frame that into a people idenity doesn't work, because haplogroups are utterly meaningless to that. Haplogroups will not give you any information about what these people looked like, how they spoke or what their culture was and thats what makes a people.

>and distinguish them from the Germanic, are you sure you want them to read this book ?

Of course, they were Celto-Germanic. That is what I've been saying all along.

West-Germanics separated from North-Germanics around 700 BC. Basically when Celts just started to move outwards Central Europe.

Also, speaking the same language doesn't imply the same ethnic background. For example the Bavarians and Austrians are Celto-Germanics (and Austrians have a lot of Slavic input too).

>West-Germanics separated from North-Germanics around 700 BC.
The ethno-synthesis of germanics only finished around 500b.c.and only from around 250b.b. do we talk about different germanic groups because before that they were confined to a very small geographic area.

>Also, speaking the same language doesn't imply the same ethnic background.
Language is one of the things that makes a ethnity a ethnity.

here, I solved this problem with my superior skills

-steppe cultures consume too much milk, problems with iron absorption due to calcium, porotic hyperostosis in their remains

-selection for hereditary hemochromatosis as a way to deal with it

-red-haired Celts directly from the steppe unlike Germanic rape babies

QED

M8 I can recognize a 'Hollander" from afar. And especially a Frisian. They are much taller than us, they are amongst the tallest people of Europe. We are not. They are much blonder than us. Just ask them yourself, or actually go there then come here and compare for yourself.

Then go to Wallonia and the north of France, you will physically notice not much difference with us, although there is some. What we call in our dialect a "Walenkop" (Walloon face). But not as outspoken as in North NL, who resemble Danes more than us.

>let me tell you about your country

Also I wanted to add that both Belgae and Franks claimed the same mythological origins, from the Cimmerians of Asia Minor. Coincidence? I think not.

Solved

>Language is one of the things that makes a ethnity a ethnity.

OK, so a Nigerian and a Frenchman are of the same ethnicity because they speak the same language, right?

no, wait, the hole is deeper

-yersinia pestis on the steppe
-selection for HH as resistance
-the people start drinking milk and find it helps
-they turn to pastoralism
-they dominate Europe

what the fuck, all due to plague

>Then go to Wallonia and the north of France
Yeah and then I go to Flemish regions further north and find tall blond people too, I've been to Belgium multiple times.

>OK, so a Nigerian and a Frenchman are of the same ethnicity because they speak the same language, right?
French is not the language of people living in nigeria so how does that matter?
Also
>ONE OF

your shitposting is too high IQ for this board

GTFO

>The ethno-synthesis of germanics only finished around 500b.c.and only from around 250b.b. do we talk about different germanic groups because before that they were confined to a very small geographic area.

red = settlements before 750 BC
orange = new settlements by 500 BC
yellow = new settlements by 250 BC
green = new settlements by 1 AD

Hence why North- and West-Germanic languages differ so much and aren't mutually intelligible since the early middle ages at least, hence why East-Germanic and North-Germanic languages resembled each other so much.

Lel

Muh Akhenaton was Moses n shieet

Who cares? The only national identity that matters is American.

Proto-Germanics lived in parts of Finland as well. There is a place name in West Finland called Harjavalta which means the 'leader of a warband' or something like that. Modern derivatives of that name include Harald, but Harjavalta is the more archaic version.

You also claimed to be the sons of Bavo while the French/Franks are the sons of Francio

Coincidence? I think not.

Again, I live in coastal (northern) Flanders. Born and bred. Go to the Nederdraad and ask them if you don't believe me.

Nigeria was my mistake, I could have said Côte d'Ivoire, Congo.... you deliberately missed my pretty obvious point

>Hence why North- and West-Germanic languages
Neither of them existed in their modern form back then. Fake and gay, stop pretending you know anything about the topic.
West and North germanic languages (in reality central germanic, westg germanic and north germanic) only started to build long after, germanics were capable of communicating freely in all of germania as the romans defined it even by the 4th century a.d. and that encompasses territories that nowadays are all three groups.
The differences nowadays come from different levels of admixture with other languages.


You try to force national identities invented in the last millenia on groups of people that have no relevant resemblance to them in any form.

And your map is literally meaningless, it just shows the expansion of tribes that became germanic over time, not what those tribes looked like at any stgage of that expansion.

Actually French are Italian and German rape babies

>Again, I live in coastal (northern) Flanders. Born and bred. Go to the Nederdraad and ask them if you don't believe me.
You look literally the same as a dutch guy across the border from you, you are not fooling anyone.

>you deliberately missed my pretty obvious point
No I was telling you that your comparison makes no sense. Yes, in many centuries thaese nigerian populations in france will have become part of what will then be considered french (or whatever other name they use then). Ethnicities are not static like you like to think.

Italian are Longboard so that makes them German

Honestly everyone in europe is pretty much german by now. They got around a lot.

Except Finns..

Okay Finns too.

Its official guys, everyone Wuz germanois and shieet.

Nope

We're pure race while there is no such thing as Italians, they're a mix of Gauls, Greeks, Venetians, Lombards, Normans, Romans, Italiotes, Ligufrians, and Etrscans

If Europe was German we would be mostly blond haired m8

I have read different descriptions of the Galatians, caan't find them right now in my collection. I will just add that Romans seemed to have a fetish for red hair and saw it everywhere, from Gauls to Germanics and Thracians. So you should take their description with a grain of salt. Also, naturally the warriors will be those large of stature. It's not like low test males were allowed to carry a sword back then. You has to prove your worth to the tribe.

We are Celtic too!

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