War speculation thread

War speculation thread
Do you think another world war is likely to happen any time soon? North Korea has been getting more and more noisy and has threatened us a couple of times but it could just be seeking attention. If they were to attack someone China would most likely back them up which would start a world of shit

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If North Korea attacked anyone China wouldnt get involved and would just urge for diplomatic solutions. They're not going to risk a full scale war with the US over a very one sided strategic alliance with few benefits.

>if they were to attack someone china would most likely back them up
If they were to attack anyone first china would leave them out in the cold, it's not like how it used to be

Lmao China would leave NK to die if they attacked someone.

This

NK is surprising weak. Canada alone could probably beat North Korea in a total war scenario

It will be America+Whoever they can rope in vs Literally anyone.

Nothing's too unlikely at this point.

North Korea is like the villain in a Disney sitcom.
>We're gonna hit you with... THIS ICBM!
>*gasp*
>MWAHAHAHAHA
>falls into ocean five seconds into launch
>Curses!
China is the only reason we haven't turned them into rubble, and China only holds onto them because they piss off the West. As soon as it comes to war China will melt away faster than your only date at the prom.

Timewise how long do you think it will be before something happens
10 years? 5? 500?

China will intensify expansion into Sub-Saharan Africa, to be checked by the US in a series of low intensity conflicts.

Botswana has openly approached the US about basing troops in the country. Invest in the area around the Francistown army barracks, especially once Mugabe dies.

t. insider

I'm pretty sure China doesn't want them developing ICBM technology either, they're playing with fire as is

>NK will nuke China

>china withdraws all support or lets NK get attacked and doesn't help
Yeah I can see it

The classic "invest in me and I'll let you build bases here"

It depends. If there would be a war including NK, there's a pretty good chance that all Japan, China and SK would cooperate as a capable nuclear armed NK is a threat to everyone in the region.

This is exemplified by China recently suspending all coal imports from NK, which is NK's largest export item and Chinas greatest point of leverage over NK. The geopolitics of East Asia all revolve around China and if China is even expressing concern about NKs nuclear program, it gives the chance for cooperation to evolve between countries.

You joke but NK could literally level SK. Especially when you consider the population density within the nation. I understand the Trump mantra is that such lives are expendable but it's really no joking matter.

nah, it's just the anglomedia for some reason pushing this, who knows with what purpose

believing that NK will do something, anything I think is pretty silly.

West btfo
youtu.be/OlQ6KqTlyfk

ANGLO CIVIL WAR!
CANADA&USA
vs
IRELAND & UK
vs
NZ & AUSTRALIA

I think the rest of the world would be esctatic over this.

>implying it would be fought via proxy wars

You wish the world could get rid of the anglo overlords

I don't doubt that they could wreak havoc on their southern neighbors, especially considering their willingness to use nukes. But that's an unfortunate act of geography. Move South Korea... South, a thousand miles, and suddenly they're out of reach. The Northerners are still on Cold-War era tech. And frankly if they thought they could pull something they would have by now. They know their Chinese backing is shaky, and that their attack on SK isn't guaranteed to go well.
>Trump mantra
Please don't go around assuming that every American ingests a diet of solely Trump for their world affairs. If you're baiting with this line then good job, you caught me, but otherwise don't bring him up unless he's part of the conversation. If you really must know what the Trump mantra - or at least Trump supporter mantra - is, it goes like follows: to best protect South Korea we should turn North Korea to rubble today, before they have a chance to get a single plane off the ground. Every month we delay puts our allies further at risk. China can either lump it or face the entire western world, something they're not ready to do.

> Move South Korea... South, a thousand miles, and suddenly they're out of reach

just push seoul 100 km south and it's much better already

NK wouldn't do anything right now, but it's a race against the clock.

The whole point of NK pursuing nukes is because their overwhelmingly large amount conventional weapons such as short and medium range missile systems are quickly becoming obsolete against what is being given the SK by the US. NK basically entirely relies on these missile systems to retain leverage over SK, which in turn discourages military action from the US. With the technological gap widening between NK and SK, they lose all their cards, and sees the chances of military action from the US and its allies increasing.

To be honest I'd rather attack them now than let them slowly slide into becoming an actual nuclear power

Disagree. North Korea has had decades to plan for invasion, although their military capabilities are not near those of the US (they're about at the level of the Soviet Union in the late 70s-early 80s), they still could do some considerable damage with their WMD stocks. The people are also fanatically nationalistic and will resist any invader other than maybe their fellow Koreans in the South to the death.

Thats exactly the way the US government is thinking right now. Once Kimmy has nukes, he's not going to just roll over and surrender them like Gaddafi once the international pressure kicks up.

>conventional weapons such as short and medium range missile systems are quickly becoming obsolete

NK already have other options
missiles from submarin
youtu.be/foTGz3Z1aNw

and roo is also the aim as NK said

China wouldnt back them
China however wont allow a US military base next to its borders so close to their cities

NK was doing the same before, its the US who is moving armed forces to the region to "protect" Korea

there might be an Iraq again i guess the weapon industry is starving for dollars

China would definitely get involved. Sitting idly by, they risk having US forces on their doorstep which would cause massive political and domestic worries. To avoid this, China would likely lead a coalition against NK, or co-start a coalition with the US whereas China would be doing most of the ground fighting.

Trump offered Xi something in exchange for his cooperation, what that is we don't know, but probably putting currency/trade renegotiation on the backburner or else not installing THAAD in South Korea.

Most likely, China will accept reunification of Korea under the ROK only if they terminate their defense/security agreements with the US and become a neutral country like Finland, which is flatly forbidden by Russia to join NATO.

>missiles from submarin
this is why lots of submarins from various nations are gathering around korean peninsula now.

zakzak.co.jp/society/foreign/news/20170421/frn1704211100001-n1.htm

If China is gung-ho opposed to a US invasion of the North, they could invade themselves and convert the DPRK into a puppet/buffer zone completely under their control. It would still be a massive mess though, and lead to chaos and refugees into Manchuria, the very scenario Beijing has been desperate to prevent for decades. China's borders have not been this secure since early in the Sung Dynasty, almost 1000 years ago and they would prefer to keep it that way.

IDK man. Yeah, China could invade the place themselves, but aside from the refugee disaster, the Norks would still resist any invader ferociously. Trying to subdue the place would be a massive headache, and besides, the PLA is really a vast border/internal security force. Its effectiveness in a real war is unknown and questionable.

To be honest, even without Trump offering anything, China will still get involved. I think the idea of having a nuclear capable wildgun with nothing to lose next door is concern enough. The military focused Global Times newspaper which is owned and run by the current ruling Communist party even mentioned that NK will soon hit a "tipping point of no return".

>China will accept reunification of Korea under the ROK
China will probably be unlikely to accept that as even if a unified ROK would have to be independent from all US support, it doesnt entirely mean they wouldn't be pro US being such close proximity to China would also pose a threat. In Chinese and NK eyes, they look to what happened to Germany and that if any unification were to happen, it would be the pro-Western side would absorb the other

>China's borders have not been this secure since early in the Sung Dynasty, almost 1000 years ago and they would prefer to keep it that way.
But once NK obtains nukes, it'll no longer be a matter of borders, it'll suddenly become a matter of national security. But at this stage its quite unlikely fighting will even occur as both the US and China have multiple options to try and defuse the situation.

There is nothing to speculate about. This is the time Norway singlehandedly defeats US, pillages and rapes. they are just ITCHING for an oppurtunity. If I were an american I would be worried and cautious.

>at this stage its quite unlikely

this might help
an article of SK major press
Chinese companies is pulling the plugs from SK one after another.
chosunonline.com/site/data/html_dir/2017/04/25/2017042500559.html

there are two reasons.
one is solid. thats because of thaad in SK.
another could be "getting ready for the war"

We wouldn't see a world war over best Korea, even China are sick of their shit.

>it doesnt entirely mean they wouldn't be pro US
Finland though is obvious a US/Western-aligned cunt but Russia will not let them have any security agreements with Washington.

All I can say is, why are Starcraft Korea so STUPID? Why keep your capital city so near the border? Why didn't they moved it before M.A.S.H. aired its last episode? For a nation No. 1 at RTS, they sure lack common sense in opening up for a zerg rush. Therefore, Koreans either North or South are pea brains and deserves each other.

China would probably intervene directly in the DPRK if they thought a US invasion was likely as they've been consistent in their statements that they will not let US ground troops invade North Korea or approach the border of Manchuria. It's unclear exactly how Beijing would react, if they would zerg rush the US military like they did in 1950. Certainly it's a much different time and China is an established member of the global community instead of the impoverished peasant nation fresh out of decades of war that it was in that time. The old Chinese proverb goes that "You won't know how the tiger reacts until you pull its tail", and it may not be a good idea to try it, not in the least because it would mean a conflict between two nuclear-armed states, something that has never happened before.

A unified Korea would be a formidable economic and political power that would be problematic for China, but Japan as well, they also have no desire to see this happen. Any Chinese action against Kim Jong Un, including regime change, would be motivated by China's own strategic interests and not by humanitarian reasons or concern for the welfare of the poor oppressed sods in the DPRK.

>as usual, Koreans deleted a thread imediately after revealed they used Jap flags.
>this is the thread

Unless both Russia and China agree to back down and let US unleash Freedom™ on North Korea, full scale war between US and NK is highly unlikely. Trump is probably asking China for another tight sanction on NK.

Invading North Korea would be a catastrophic mess that gets at least one million people killed (US Defense Department estimates). The country is heavily fortified, they have WMDs, and are brainwashed enough to fight any invader to the death.

The US and South Korea would win in the end, but the price of victory would be awful.

>this is South Korea

>We must remind the Chinese government and Chinese that Japan is a public enemy of Korea and China
asiae.co.kr/news/view.htm?idxno=2017042609355101487

>from an today's article of SK press 아시아경제
>일본이 한국과 중국의 공공의 적이라는 점을 중국정부와 중국인들에게 상기시켜야 한다

>this is South Korea

>Failure will continue to be repeated if the next government makes diplomatic strategies without clearly recognizing Japanese trait of vulgarness.

>from an today's article of SK press yonhap
yonhapnews.co.kr/bulletin/2017/04/24/0200000000AKR20170424143800797.HTML

WW3 starts in 2023, and it's going to be Russia.
> About to raise amount of soldiers to two millions
> Army modernisation paln until 2020
And after hosting World Cup 2018 theyr economy will go full bananas

>they're about at the level of the Soviet Union in the late 70s-early 80s
>with their WMD stocks
How the fuck do you know about those details at all? The country's fucking closed off. Do you really think we have reliable intel on them?

I want to drag Australia into the conflict.

What is spy?
What is spy plane?
What is satellite?