This shit has consistently grown on me since I first heard it ten years ago. Is there an argument here for best ever?

This shit has consistently grown on me since I first heard it ten years ago. Is there an argument here for best ever?

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probably one of the best rock albums ever, yeah. the reason it didn't go mainstream was because of verlaine's god-awful singing and also the band becoming egotistical cunts after the release of this

Pink Flag and Chairs Missing are both better

My dad told me that if I want to be a good rock guitarist I need to learn every guitar part from this album and practice the shit out of it. Any truth to this?

yes

What makes the guitar work on this album different from any other rock guitar music?

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if you can ever write a solo as good as this one, you are good at guitar

theres no 'gimmicky' or flashy stuff about the playing for one. no distortion, wah, whacky modulation effects, reverb or delay. its just really great melody over static chord vamps. in particular, the use of precise phrasing is second to none in rock guitar solos. the arc (beginning, middle, end) within the solos are so expertly figured out; the introduction, the climax and release. theres no guitar-wanking going on running up and down minor pentatonics. the use of note sequences on the longer scalar runs are unconventional and actively avoid cliche.

Do you think It's approachable for someone who is new to playing lead guitar or is it too complicated?

t. rhythm player who always put off playing lead

depends how "new" you are . if you've learnt your jimi hendrix, guns n roses or led zeppelin type solos its in the ballpark of that stuff in terms of technical difficulty. maybe some things would be harder though, like that fast AF solo in "see no evil"

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art punky

Singer's voice bothers me sometimes.

bought this on Australia, delicious white vinyl

I actually really like the Verlaine's voice

Is it dadrock?

Another album that's alright at best but the internet has overrated to oblivion. Nothing about this album is standout.

It sounds like he's really trying to compensate for not having any power in his voice.

good album, even a great album, but only ever labeled "best ever" by pretentious fucks. there was SO MUCH like this being pumped out at the same time by bands who are arguably better (Wire, Minutemen), that to hold this album above any other is foolish. much better to just acknowledge the virtue of this artsy-post-punk style as a whole movement and enjoy the albums across it without putting this on a pedestal. stop.

i would love to hear more bands similar to television, especially from the same era.

any other suggestions?

>Wire and Minutemen sound like Television
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Richard Hell and the Voidoids (obvious pic, Richard Hell was a guitarist in Televeision.)

Thin White Rope, Modern Lovers (esp first album). Highly recommend The Feelies, different band but similar vibes with the guitar work. I'd even check out Echo and the Bunnymen

admittedly those were off-the-cuff references and Marquee Moon is less comparable than some of Television's other albums (like Adventure) but for big Sup Forums bands in the 70s posty theme I'd stand by the comparison