Skrewdriver

>hurrrr "All Skrewed Up" is the only good album durrr

This is one of the lamest memes I've encountered whenever they're brought up. Anyone unironically claiming this is either deluding themselves or lying to others in a desperate bid to steer others away from their best material.

Everything they did after, including "After the Fire" and even "The Strong Survive", is better than "All Skrewed Up".

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Oh great. ANOTHER fucking Sup Forums thread

But I like Skrewdriver and I hate Sup Forums. It's just good Oi!

Is it anything more of a Sup Forums thread if I made a thread about, say, CRASS or Aus-Rotten?

where the fuck are these CRASS threads, shithead?

Skrewdriver is unironically good though. People only say they suck because politics is all they ever think about.

>implying any oi is good

working class trash t b h

Getting defensive, are we?

I said that a thread about Skrewdriver isn't anymore Sup Forums-oriented than if I made a thread about, say, CRASS or Poison Girls.

Funny that those bands are greatly underdiscussed, too. A shame, really. Cultural frauds like Bikini Kill, on the other hand, regularly are talked about in virtually every Punk thread when they're everything wrong with Punk.

Everything Vi Subversa did right with Poison Girls, Kathleen Hanna did wrong with Bikini Kill.

Where to start with Skrewdriver and RAC in general?

Skrewdriver is just as political as Crass, they only sing about different shits. You're just upset about how they aren't singing about whatever shitty lie of the month you've set yourself into.

they get made once and awhile

I mean when you say something like "working class trash t b h" what the fuck are you even doing in a thread about punk music.

Genuine not bait question: How do RAC Oi! lads feel about the fact that the genre was pioneered and named after a song by a bunch of Jewish lads? I'm not saying it's hypocrisy or anything, I'm just curious.

Depends. Do you just want to pick the cream of the crop of each respective scene or do you want to travel through time and experience the original British RAC and then branch out from there?

In the past, I would just flit through from band to band, but going in deep and experience all the different bands chronologically turned out to be just as much fun. To me, it's fun witnessing the bands, which generally started out as just wanting to entertain a patriotic British crowd, gradually start drifting towards Nazism. It's like watching a slow descent into madness.

For those unaware, Rock Against Communism was first coined in the late '70s by Young National Front (YNF) organizers in Leeds, UK, hoping to counter the successful efforts of left-wing organizers who launched Rock Against Racism (RAR), with the goal of co-opting Punk to energize the youth. YNF operated a short-lived club called Punk Front, which featured several live-only bands that quietly broke up towards the end of the '70s. The idea for RAC lay moribund, but then came the Skinheads.

Contrary to popular belief, Skrewdriver wasn't the first skinhead RAC band to exist since Ian Stuart wasn't involved in far-right politics until the beginning of the '80s. That title would go The Ovaltinees whose first release "British Justice" which features a neat little ditty called "Argentina", celebrating Britain's victory in the Falklands:
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Peter & the Wolf was also among the earliest known RAC bands. Their demotape remained unreleased until it was discovered and issued on CD by a Bulgarian RAC label in 2000. According to the insert, the band recorded the instruments in studio while the vocalist recorded in the kitchen of a bandmate's mother. Consequently, the lyrics are largely unintelligible, but the rock has a distinctly raw edge.
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Next up is London Branch who put out a demo in 1983. The band frequently played the 100 Club in London. After a series of setbacks, the band called it quits. British Nationalism abound.
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The Die-Hards released one demo and later appeared on the National Front sponsored compilation "This Is White Noise" EP and later "No Surrender" released by Rock-O-Rama Records. Apart from breaking up and reforming (before breaking up again presumably), little else is known about the band.
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And, finally, we have Brutal Attack, the only band whose frontman Ken McLellan continues to make music today. These guys are just about as significant as Skrewdriver and later No Remorse and Skullhead. In fact, you could call these guys one of The Big Four of British RAC. Special note goes to "As the Drum Beats" whose main chord is eerily similar to "Whole Lotta Rosie" from AC/DC.
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Very informative, thank you.

In case it wasn't screamingly obvious, the RAC band Public Enemy from Kent are completely unrelated to the rap group of the same name, though I'd imagine (later) lead singer Paul Burnley would find a few things to agree on if he ever met Professor Griff. These blokes went on a hiatus shortly after releasing "England's Glory", but not before recruiting Paul Burnley on vocals after some line-up changes. "England's Glory" epitomizes everything the uninitiated would think about RAC with shouty yob Darren "Dal" Mumford yelling to bring back capital punishment to lynch your local rapist all over a steady burst of power chords, tinny drums and cymbal crashes.

Just as the American Hip-Hop legends started shaking up the underground, Paul Burnley resurrected Public Enemy with guitarist Martin Cross to release an album "There Is Only One..." flipping the bird towards the Long Island rappers. Notice the distinct difference between the older and newer incarnations of Public Enemy with the former favoring a straightforward, aggressive style of Oi! like their First Wave brethren while the latter slows down the tempo to a footstomping Hard Rock beat in the vein of the Second Wave. Also different is the lyrical themes. Old Public Enemy strictly stuck to British Nationalism whereas Burnley-era Public Enemy was full-on 1488 Nazi:
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Picking a purposely funny yet identifiable name, Indecent Exposure entered the scene as The Hemel Boot Boys before changing their name after a few line-up changes. "Reveal All" is aggressive, passionate and surprisingly catchy.
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bumping a good thread

About as well-known as Skrewdriver and at times even better, Newcastle-based Skullhead were among the few true northerners of RAC's most well-known bands. Also distinct of the band was their staunch Odinist faith and Third Position political stance, where they were as critical of capitalism as they were of communism. Fittingly, the Oi! here sounds as it were conceived in the dingy, dank alleyways of the city centre. "White Warrior" is borne out of social frustration, sorrow, pain and anger, having been inspired by the brutal murder of a close friend Peter Mathewson. Subsequent albums would drift towards a Hard Rock sound that are just as compelling, but their debut just has the right elements for a memorable debut.
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No Remorse and their charismatic frontman Paul Burnley would spearhead the Second Wave with "This Time the World". While Brutal Attack and Skrewdriver would sing the glories of England and cast the Third Reich as tragic heroes, they rarely made it racial with one notable exception from the early years.

Fast forward three years later and we have "This Time the World", an album telling you what they thought about Pakistanis, Jews, Blacks and whoever else. Named after George Lincoln Rockwell's book, the music remorselessly embodies the principle of evil. Also significant is that it was the premiere British band on French label Rebelles Européens. Rebelles Européens proudly featured records with emblazoned with Swastikas, Reichsadlers and more.

No Remorse is vicious, degenerate, violent and just vile. The band revels in their slur-laced poetry and, all things considered, the music is as memorable as they come, for the worst and best reasons. Has to be heard to be believed.
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eat shit. i'm not right wing and I can still agree that Back With a Bang / I Don't Like You is one of the greatest punk 7" records ever.

Hailing from Croydon, Sudden Impact enjoyed a rough reputation as one of Britain's more directly racist RAC bands. The band would publish nasty numbers like "White Slag" under the pseudonym The Croydon Criminals. Their close connection to Ian Stuart and company eventually earned them a deal with Rock-O-Rama Records, debuting with an appropriately named, rough shod Oi! album "Storm." Their music was fittingly spirited if a pinch awkward due to the clunky lyrics.

Sudden Impact would hit the studio again to release a sophomore album "Rock & Roll Rebels." While the songwriting here is cringeworthy with some sour notes to boot, a skinhead band trying their hands at ballad-driven Hard Rock has that inimitable charm characteristic of passion-driven amateurs which lasts long after the first listen not unlike The Shaggs. The release of "White Rider" set a precedent for many to emulate, and if the interviews with Sudden Impact are any indication, Hard Rock was a natural framework for their music. Other skinhead bands would later turn to that sound to a much greater degree than these gents had.

"Hail the Warriors" stands out as the album's highlight. Full of simple, but energetic riffs to keep your blood pumping and keyboards to deepen the impact, the song achieves everything it sets forth. The first real ballad is "God of Thunder," which opens with a soft acoustic before our vocalist proudly hails Thor, hopeful he will return to earth to deliver Europe from the red menace. The song electrifies midway for the refrain before returning to the acoustics. The rest of the album more or less veers between Hard Rock and Skinhead Oi!, but even with a few duff tunes, the music succeeds on its own merits and those curious about RAC's transition from Oi! to Hard Rock will find this listen rewarding.
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Vengeance entered the world with a rather ordinary Oi! demo that would eventually make its way onto wax two years later, but with a new line-up, the band would release the album "Forward Into War" that radically changed in style. The music here sounds like the bastard child of Motörhead and Skrewdriver. Vocalist Vernon practically sounds like a frothing British Bulldog, relentlessly growling jingoist rhetoric over thunderously hard riffs. Nothing but pure, unabashed English Nationalism.
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Unlike other British skinhead bands who gradually discovered Der Führer, Squadron proudly declared themselves National Socialists from the start. After going through several line-up changes which included the leave of the original songwriter, the band stabilized for the release of "Our Time Will Come" and "Take the Sword", both of which fused the footstomping beat of old school Oi!/Punk with the aggression of Hardcore Punk and later Thrash Metal. By the mid '90s, Squadron would officially crossover to a Metal band with "Combat, Battle and Burn" which features the mighty "Death Before Dishonour".
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Skrewdriver isn't the only band who met a grim end in an automotive accident. Welsh legends Violent Storm were rising stars in the underground having just finished recording their first full-length album before heading out to promote its release in Spain. The fateful day was Saturday, March 14, 1992. On route to the airport, the band suddenly lost control of the vehicle during a sudden gale, causing it to crash against a bridge and consequently killing all members but lead vocalist Nigel "Billy" Bartlett who miraculously survived after first being ejected several yards from the wreckage and then hospitalized. Bartlett formed Celtic Warrior with former members of Violent Storm and Blackout to continue the legacy of his former bandmates. The music here is straight up Oi!/Hardcore Punk with absolutely no influences of Metal or Hard Rock.
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Like Violent Storm, English Rose can safely be considered a throwback to the Oi! of yore rather than the mix of Hard Rock and Heavy Metal that would soon follow in the years to come. Formed out of the ashes of Guttersnipe Army and White Aggression, English Rose would continue their legacy years later as Tattooed Mother Fuckers.
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With Nationalist skinhead bands leaving London for Northern England or breaking up, Martin Cross became concerned it would impact the local scene, so he recruited some other musicians on drums, bass and vocals to form Empire. Vocalist Wayne Wakeford sings with an amusingly nasal tone that's a love it/hate it affair, but even so, the gritty barrage of Hard Rock riffs over Anglo-Saxon mythology and Nationalist propaganda grows on you. At times, you will begin to feel the album's length as each track makes a point of wearing out its welcome, but if Z-Grade Hard Rock from the late '80s/early '90s appeals to you, then you're in luck.
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Grade One's "Hail the New Land" would be the last British RAC single released by Rebelles Européens. A shame their discography is so limited, because if these two songs are any indication, they could've packed quite a punch if they had a full-length:
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Battle Zone manage to sound better than most of their contemporaries, especially considering they came much later to the game. Sadly, "Nowhere to Hide" languishes in relative obscurity. Years later, lead singer Alex Ellui later renounced his former views, but that still doesn't stop the music from being as fierce as before. The opening title track pummels you with thunderously hard riffs coupled with Alex’s gravelly bark at the forefront all serving to prepare you to fuck shit up in the pit. The rest of the album continues the same way, but special mention goes to the anti-drug song "Way of Death" for featuring some awesome saxophones that accompany the heavy riffs well.
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Razors Edge earns the distinction as being perhaps the single most repetitive band, but they still manage to be compelling from the sheer strength of their ferocity. First link is a fun little interview from 1996 with Andy Nolan, the madman behind the band.
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Warlord, project of Steve "Stigger" Calladine, started as an ordinary Hard Rock/Oi! RAC band before switching over to Heavy Metal on "Ascension" 15 years after the initial release. The style of that album is refreshingly reminiscent of the NWOBHM. Kudos to them for having the guts to write the Muslim-baiting "Jihad Joe".
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Special mention goes to Paul Burnley's solo project solely because of the white power reggae song "Ragga" which has to be heard to be believed:
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To keep things brief as to recommendations...

North America: White Pride, Fight For Freedom, Day of the Sword/Break the Sword, No Alibi, Bound For Glory, New Glory, Elite Terror, Arresting Officers, Mudoven/Vaginal Jesus, Platoon 14, Angry Aryans, Max Resist, Cross, Aryan, RaHoWa, Nordic Thunder, Blue Eyed Devils, Das Reich, Rival, Midtown Bootboys, Berserkr, The Raunchous Brothers

UK (other than what's listed): Buzzard Bait, Bulldog Breed, British Standard, Warhammer

Australia: Fortress, Open Season, White Noise, Blood Red Eagle, White Lightning, Death's Head

Spain: Estirpe Imperial, División 250

France: Evil Skins, Bunker 84, Legion 88, Chauves Pourris, Kontingent 88, Nouvelle Croisade, Ultime Assaut, Frakass, Durandal, Sombre Chemin, Vae Victis, Ile de France, Naastrand, Ultimatum

The Germanosphere: Storkraft, Bomber, Arbeiterklasse, Saccara, Landser, Kahlkopf, Nahkampf, Sturmtrupp, Werwolf, Sturmflagge, Sturmtruppen Skinheads, Noie Werte, Oithanasie, Oidoxie, In Tyrannos

Italy: Ultima Fronteira, Power Skins, Peggior Amico, Janus, Terre di Mezzo

Sweden: Dirlewanger, Ultima Thule

The Slavlands: Excalibur (CZE), Buldok (CZE), Кoppoзия Meтaллa [Korrozia Metalla] (RUS), Кoлoвpaт [Kolovrat] (RUS), Honor (POL)

>Don't believe me? Give these a listen:
Sounds like an amateur bar rock band.

Definitely the highlight of Second Wave RAC.

Any thoughts on the other stuff posted ITT?

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Not gonna lie, this is pretty fucking hard.

I'm putting a lot of it into a playlist to listen to in full later. Thank you very much for sharing.

>op posts bait thread
>shitflinging is averted by user who gives a scholarly rundown on racist musics
wtf im with the edl now

Are you trying to imply I'm not the same person? I value my threads highly. I was just posting a thoughtful refutation to the notion that early (ie: non-political) Skrewdriver was better than their later years. It's utter nonsense.

Someone had asked about good RAC bands, and I was more than happy to share my knowledge.

I work hard in my specific field of musicology, thank you very much.

i suppose its of interest, the rage produced by any form of inequality, poverty and suffering.

still fuck the racists fucks

tbf on the whole Skrewdriver thing, there was no crossover in membership (other than Ian Stuart) between the early and later years, and Ian's style definitely changed between them. They're practically different bands. I prefer early Skrewdrvier, but later Skrewdriver was still top for RAC.

Didn't one of the guys who played in pre-RAC Skrewdriver go on to play in The Fall?

No, but I think you're thinking of Mark Radcliffe who drummed with them for a little bit and later went on to present radio with Marc Riley of the Fall

On a similar note, Suggs from Madness was a roadie for them and Ian Stuart appeared in a cameo role in the Madness movie that I forget the name of. How Suggs and Ian's friendship went after Ian went far-right isn't very clear, with some saying Suggs had nothing to do with him after it and others saying he was still close and was a pallbearer at his funeral.

>pallbearer at his funeral.
It's don't.

Ian Stuart was cremated.

You can still have pallbearers into the crematorium

>pallbearers into the crematorium
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My personal favorite LPs from Rebelles Européens:
1. Kontingent - Générations futures
2. Bunker 84 - Liberté
3. Battle Zone - Nowhere to Hide
4. Dirlewanger - White Power Rock'n'Roll
5. Chauves Pourris - Jusqu'à la mort
6. Nahkampf - Schutt und Asche
7. English Rose - Never Be Silenced
8. No Remorse - This Time, The World
9. Ultima Thule - Svea hjältar
10. División 250 - Sangre de conquistadores
11. Bunker 84 - Notre Combat!
12. Légion 88 - Thulé
13. Noie Werte - Kraft für Deutschland
14. Ultime Assaut - Délivrance
15. Verde Bianco Rosso - Europa
16. Dirlewanger - Rockin' for the Golden Race
17. Open Season - Front Line Fighters
18. White Lightning - Destiny
19. Power Skin - Celtica bianca spada
20. Public Enemy - Our Weapon Is Truth

For compilations, singles and EPs:
1. Grade 1 - Hail the New Land / Let's Rock
2. No Remorse - Smash the Reds / Race Traitor
3. Skullhead - Victory or Valhalla
3. Chauves Pourris - Censuré / Nous on est des sauvages
4. Ultima Thule - Havets vargar / Tonight
5. Violent Storm - Land of My Fathers
6. Battle Zone - Way of Death / Nation of Sorrow
7. Bunker 84 - Vieux continent / Un autre cràne rasé est mort
8. Nouvelle Croisade - Tu aimeras
9. Bunker 84 - Victime des démocraties / France
10. English Rose - Proud Nationalist Warriors / Wasting Away
11. Ovaltinees - British Justice (reissue)
12. Légion 88 - Légion Blanche / J'avais un camarade
13. Légion 88 - Terroristes / Vaincre
14. Tolbiac's Toads - 1983 - 1987
15. Battle Zone - Right to March / Squalor
16. Brutal Combat - Passe A L'ouest / Indo-Europeens
17. Dirlewanger - Nigger Season / Proud of My Race
18. Peggior Amico - Non staremo a guardare / Diritto di marciare
19. Verde Bianco Rosso - Bionda, rossa e nera
20. Ultime Assaut - Paris / La bête immonde

For their various artist compilations:
1. Last Chance
2. Debout, Vol. 1
3. Debout, Vol. 3
4. Debout, Vol. 5
5. Debout, Vol. 2
6. Debout, Vol. 4

If you ask me, Garry Bushell did a far greater job creating the classic "Street Punk" image than they did. Same with Malcolm McLaren and the Sex Pistols.

Unsurprisingly, Rock Against Communism inspired few women to make music. The earliest known band to feature a female on vocals was one Glaswegian band British Standard. A few years later, a fellowship from Rochdale boldly named Lionheart would emerge to take up the mantle. Affiliated with Blood & Honour, founding member Jon "Icky" Hickson served as editor of the Nazi skinhead zine Viking Review which proclaimed Hitler as the 20th Century's greatest man. After recording a couple demos, Lionheart would sign with Rebelles Européens and record the Better Dead Than Red single. The release fell short of the band's expectations, and their reservations weren't helped by a scathing review from the zine Splendid which remarked, "The singer sounds like Colin Jordan being sodomized at the Nuremburg rally’!"
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Donaldson was an awful vocalist even by Punk standards

Lionheart's efforts towards their debut LP "A New Beginning" were in vain with Jaki's feelings reflecting the same dissatisfaction as before. By her own account, the studio staff's amateurish efforts to correct the drummer's inability to keep a beat with a drum machine were further compounded by mishandling the mixing of the vocals. Due to budget contraints, the band could not remix the album and just sent the tapes to be put to wax. I appreciate Jaki's honesty towards her own work, because Lionheart ranks as one of the most aggressively mediocre RAC bands to ever release music. The album stumbles out of the gate with its title track with the off-key duet setting the tone for the rest of the album. If you thought the vocals were bad here, they're about to get worse.

The studio seemed dedicated to fucking this up, because the poor mixing renders all the instruments as a formless over-reverbed mess. By far, the biggest problem is the vocals, because Jaki can't sing worth shit. If she isn't audibly straining to belt, she's flatly going through the lyrics with no apparent attempt to carry any of the songs. Whoever thought it keen to add delay to her voice on "Time to Die" and "Sons of England" should never work in production again.

To Lionheart's credit, the riffs sound surprisingly bluesy with a pub rock kick unlike anything their peers were playing at that time. The A-Side has plenty of energetic foot stompers propelled by power chords, with the main riff to "A Waste of Space" sounding righteously powerful. A personal highlight here is the sappy, yet heartwarming love song "Thinking of You," one of the few RAC love songs sung by a skinbyrd. Jaki has the courtesy of keeping her voice in range, so everything sounds smooth. "A Nation Divided" does its best to redeem the otherwise lackluster music with its heavy, metallic riffs, although it's too little, too late.

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Bah! He's the white nationalist Louis Armstrong.

Anyone who hates him just doesn't like gruff voices.

Le pole armi xd!!!

have you made threads like this in the past? I'm pretty sure I recall finding out about Nouvelle Croisade and Chauves Pourris in a thread just like this.

Separate art from artist. Good music is good music. Rappers say fucked up shit all the time that I don't condone but I'll listen to hip hop. Same with rock artists. I like Death in June but Douglas P might be a Nazi sympathizer. I dont care.

Sweden was not only the birthplace of Viking Rock, but its scene also bequeathed heavyhitters Dirlewanger who stood out as the frontrunners for RACabilly alongside The Klansmen helmed by none other than Ian Stuart himself. The band's previous two albums established that signature blend of bluesy Hard Rock and Rockabilly, but "White Power Rock'n'Roll" would mark the transition towards a new identity as Heroes in the Snow. Gone was the Rockabilly and in was some good ol' Hard Rock a la AC/DC complete with a presumably new vocalist doing his best to channel Bon Scott. This album improves just about everything I found lacking in "Rocking for the Golden Race" and "Unity in Honour". Despite copying AC/DC's style in every way possible, they still sound more original and authentic than ever.

Aside from the guitar which could be a tad heavier and the drums which could use be a bit more propulsive, the crisp and clean production all works well together so nothing is too out of balance. The guitars still have the Rock'n'Roll flair of their previous two albums, but done in the spirit of fistpounding Hard Rock. Songs go anywhere from midtempo stompers to uptempo groovers all with catchy hooks and sing-along choruses to keep you engaged. In case the album cover couldn't be more obvious, the music clearly shows these guys listened to "Back in Black" and "Let There Be Rock" at least 100 times. Our vocalist's performance can be seen as divisive; you're either instantly charmed or put off upon hearing his first syllable. Half way through, it seemed he was trying to impersonate Brian Johnson and Bon Scott simultaneously with jawdropping results.

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I have made threads about RAC in the past. Usually, they get flooded with detractors, but this time, it's so far very civil.

My faith is restored in Sup Forums...for now.

is the music any good or are you just a little whiny faggot white boi who needs some special snowflake songs?

See? You can behave yourselves. Good boys...

Listen and make up your mind.

Weren't you paying attention to the thread? I said I liked Poison Girls and CRASS, both bands who held the exact opposite political ideas.

i mean shouldnt RAC really be RFSW

rock for scared whities

cuz working whitey needs communism as much as anybody else does

and what are your political ideas?
what are you doing here?

saw you mention ultima thule a few posts back. their LPs actually charted and sold in the tens of thousands back in the day, i think they even had multiple records in the top 10 at some point. they're fascinating from a pop-cultural standpoint, with their success tied to the brief resurgence of "normie" swedish nationalism of the early 1990s that arguably peaked during the '94 world cup and faded away shortly afterward. i wonder if other countries have any similar artists

cuz personally im not interested in your stealth racism qua musicology.

I like Boots And Braces-era Skrewdriver a lot.

youtube.com/watch?v=8HRaZcxo8xQ

I still can't get over how fantastic this single is, both in terms of songwriting and production. Such a fantastic stripped down, muscular sound.

To share my musical discoveries and hope others share the passion I do.

Nobody needs Communism. Communism can only be implemented through violent revolutions. It isn't the end result of a natural democratic process like American Liberalism, which is why Communism falls woefully short of its aims for a classless, stateless society. Do you really think those strong men who made revolution possible would voluntarily cede their power to the people? You're kidding yourself.

The reason why the American and English revolutions endured in longstanding, prosperous nations is because the people themselves were ready for it and understood it naturally. It wasn't inflicted upon them by armies of thugs led by opportunistic leagues of esoteric academic intellectuals.

Explain your position better if you're going to claim dominion of Sup Forums

Oi! is the fucking worst imaginable subgenre of punk, and likely even rock music as a whole.

What's wrong with Oi?
What's wrong with being working class?There are MANY great Oi! bands that either avoid politics all together (Cock Sparrer, Cockney Rejects) or have politics that are the exact OPPOSITE of this RAC bullshit (Angelic Upstarts, Oi Polloi!)

Unfortunately, anybody browsing this particular thread is going to walk away thinking that ALL skinheads and Oi! bands are a bunch of right wing racist boneheads.

Hopefully the video posted will bring an end to that myth, because there ARE skinheads and Oi! bands who's politics lean to the left of center.

It's nice to have an alternative!

youtube.com/watch?v=nTixlx71qN4

And who's the Limey little what trash slut hanging out w/Skrewdriver?
There were no women involved with Skrewdriver. Ian Stewart Donaldson was just as sexist as he was racist.

AND DON'T FORGET THAT NICKY CRANE WAS GAY AND APPEARED IN GAY PORN MOVIES AND DIED OF A.I.D.S.

youtube.com/watch?v=nTixlx71qN4

cringe

Your link's broken.

Nobody said all skinheads were right-wing racists, but casual racism was very common among skinheads. Even black skinheads partook in Paki bashing.

Sadly, none as successful as Ultima Thule.

Funny thing is they first started as a New Wave/Oi! crossover, like the Swedish lovechild of Skrewdriver and a-ha:
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Try THIS............

youtube.com/watch?v=aHtECh4VAEI

See And maybe that sort of thing happens with the skinheads in your country but that S*H*A*R*P*/R*A*S*H* skinheads in the U.S. DON'T participate in such activities, although many still have a long way to go when it comes to overcoming their homophobia.

Yeah, no!
youtube.com/watch?v=WK0WcLJoOnQ
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>S*H*A*R*P*/R*A*S*H*
Those are context blind idiots. Just because immigrants from the West Indies and Jamaica brought Skinhead Reggae with them doesn't mean the "Spirit of '69" was some big anti-racist paradise. Just ask any Pakistani or Indian shopkeeper. Also, plenty of black skinheads got hostile with white ones, especially when Punk started becoming more popular.

Yes, there were left-wing skinheads, but at first, the subculture wasn't politically connected to anything. Some were from Conservative families whereas others voted Labour. It was a youth movement for working class hard mods who got a little soulful from the new swingin' sounds.

Once Garry Bushell came out with The Sounds and made Punk fashionable among white skinheads, the rest is history.

There were instances where white skinheads didn't need the National Front to inform their opinions. Angela Rippon's Bum was connected to the Anti-Paki League (yes, that was their name), years before Rock Against Communism started. Keep in mind, the YNF's original Punk Front was entirely localized to the community in Leeds.

Skinheads are British first and American second.

An ultra-primitive slice of first-wave RAC, the suitably named British Standard’s pagan plundering sets its own course, delivering exactly as promised; shoddy, raw skinhead Oi! which sounds surprisingly fresh in spite of its flaws. As my esteemed colleagues have mentioned, these Glasgow skinheads stood out from the pack as the earliest known RAC band to feature a Chelsea named Lorraine as lead singer. She later earned notoriety for performing live at National Front’s White Noise Club, but beyond that, little is known about the band’s first and only frontwoman who never made it beyond this demo.

The demo’s rawness can only be rivaled by Mayhem’s “Pure Fucking Armageddon,” but unlike the latter’s malevolence and evil caused by the budget constraints, the production simultaneously helps and hinders the musical experience. First-wave RAC was never a polished affair to begin with, but even here, the rough shod quality may test your pain threshold. The riffs here are your standard fare Oi! reminiscent of Peter & the Wolf or The Ovaltinees, but played a bit slower. The plucky bass sets the tone for the demo as the distant sound of drums and guitar gradually join the fray. Through this raw mess of instruments comes our vocalist, yapping some indistinct lyrics which, against the odds, still sound quite fierce before a male joins on the chorus here and there. On occasion, the guitarist plays a shoddy solo. Only a couple tracks outstay their welcome while the rest deliver on their promise. The good tracks here would later be rerecorded for Celtic Connections, receiving the proper studio treatment they deserved.
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Gotta give credit where it's due. OP is a gentleman and a scholar

Thanks :3

No idea why mods bumplocked this. Really passive aggressive move on their part.

this, i enjoy anthropology regardless of political baggage. it's extremely rare to have well-written posts like these

weird that this thread doesn't seem to be bumping anymore though...

I know my history of skinheads, thank you very much.

I merely pointed out that you're probably British, and U.S. skins, especially SHARP/RASH skins in the U.S. didn't participate in Paki bashing. In fact the SHARP/RASH usually bash the boneheads who go Paki bashing, or in my case basing anybody that either looks like they're from The Middle East, or Mexico/Central/South America. (I live in Trump country so that's who the boneheads over here have a go at)

Sorry for any misunderstanding.

At least you didn't post Hail The Woo Downs which probably would've been more appropriate since this IS a Skrewdriver thread. Not original, and not really that funny. (I like the bouncing cartoon head though, even if it is racist)

No shit, Sherlock.
Ever notice how all the U.S. Skinheads talk about the struggle of "The Working Class" yet seem to own every Oi!, Spirit of 69, Ska, or Soul/R&B album ever released? Or how they have new impeccable clean clothing? How much doe Dr. Marten boots cost? A bomber jacket? A Fred Perry, or Ben Sherman? Working class MY ASS! That stuff might be cheap in England/Europe, but that stuff cost LOTS of money in the U.S. and I never met one U.S. skinhead on welfare! I never met a skinhead in the U.S. that live in the projects (Council flats to all you Brits) or trailer parks. Just a bunch of rich kids slumming it and imitating a British/European youth subculture they don't understand because they didn't grow up in those kinds of living conditions. Talk to me when your father is laid off the assembly line, coal mine, or steel mill. Just saying'. Prove me wrong!