Do Russians learn anything about Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?
Rusins made a big number of it's citizens and the country stretched as far as 150km from Moscow.
I mean we even had our Smoleńsk allies at Grunwald.
PLC
Juan Cooper
Christopher Wilson
no
Gavin Martinez
Not so much.On history lessons we are taught that this was one of the major powers in 16-17th centuries which oppressed orthodox people on it'so territory and tried to conquer us using a fake son of Ivan IV
Alexander Lewis
Hmm, but PLC didn't opress the orthodox people and was quite strong before XVI century, but the rest is kinda right. In face there were 2 fake sons of his.
I was just curious since for ethnic western Russians it can be considered part of their heritage.
Isaac Diaz
>didn't opress the orthodox people
Of course it did, introduction of Greek Catholicism is widely seen as oppression. Just imagine, that Russians in 19th century close all Roman Catholic churches and make Poles pray in "Roman Orthodox" churches, so the church, the mass look the same like in Roman Catholicism, but we have to obey orthodox dogmates and the Moscow Patriarchate instead of Vatican.
Wouldn't it be oppression for catholics?
>was quite strong before XVI century
He didn't say it wasn't, he just referred to it as the major power and the peak of Polish strength dates back to 16-17th century indeed.
>I was just curious since for ethnic western Russians it can be considered part of their heritage.
How many Poles consider the Russian Empire "part of their heritage"? I mean, how many Poles consider the Russian tzar the rightful king of Poland? How many Poles think that life in Russia was great, that "together" with Russia, Poland was a world superpower? How many Poles can say, that our capital was in Petersburg, not in Warsaw?
Andrew Walker
>While the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth remained a union of two nations: of Poland and Lithuania, a sizable population of Orthodox Ruthenians were ignored. Oppressed by the Polish magnates, they took their wrath out on Poles, as well as Jewish traders, who often managed Polish nobles' estates. The advent of the Counter-Reformation worsened relations between the Orthodox and Catholic Churches. Many Orthodox Ukrainians considered the Union of Brest as a threat to their Orthodox faith.
Owen White
2bh i have never even heard about it before Sup Forums, and i have a higher '"education'"
Asher Diaz
Yes, but not in any details. It is only discussed in the context of Time of Troubles. I'm not even sure wether or not partitions were covered.
Ian Clark
The thing I don't understand about Russia is how they don't care about their heritage in Poland. For example, hundreds of thousands of Germans visit Poland every year, to see their former cities (Danzig, Breslau), while very few Russians come to Poland to see Russian cities, like Łódź, which is like little Petersburg.
We have so many Russian churches, cemetries, palaces in Poland, yet Russians don't care. This is sad. I'm sure more Poles visit Katyń&Smoleńsk than Russians visit Łódź.
Here are some photos and description of the city:
Juan Long
They are covered.With 1 or 2 lines of text