Please tell me the "Immortan Joe did nothing wrong and those women were whores" thing is just a meme and not a serious...

Please tell me the "Immortan Joe did nothing wrong and those women were whores" thing is just a meme and not a serious case of R9k-tier autism.

Please.

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the "Immortan Joe did nothing wrong and those women were whores" thing is just a meme and not a serious case of R9k-tier autism.

Immortan Joe brought law and order to the wasteland. Feel-good liberal ideology doesn't tame a chaotic post apocalyptic hell hole, strength and conviction do.

Just look at the Citadel and compare it to the squalor that Furiosa's ilk resided in. Joe did what it took to make Australia great again.

>This is your average Trump supporter

the "Immortan Joe did nothing wrong and those women were whores" thing is just a meme and not a serious case of R9k-tier autism

Immortan Joe was a violent and fierce warlord who mentally raped and abused those girls, forced to live in a prison without being guilty of any crime.

It's hard to say. They really did only have a limited supply of water so wasting it like they did in the end was fucking dumb

You are comparing our societies norms and values with that world's.

Immortan Joe did nothing wrong in that world. He doled out water sparingly because it wasn't an endless spring.

When Furiosa is in charge they'll all be dying of dehydration in a couple months. And soon after the riotings, cannibalism, mass rape of the prizes she "freed", and anarchy to survive, she'll think "God Joe was right".

As far as the women go, they are treated better than 95% of the people in the wasteland are and were probably indoctrinated by a HIllary supporter. They couldn't survive outside without him.

Opposed to being raped and abused out on their own.
Not defending his actions, just saying, those women wouldn't stand a chance

How long do you think society lasted after they turned on the water spouts and it all evaporated into the desert?

Living under a strongman was hard and unjust, but they lived.

Post socialism everyone died thirsting, surely after an internal war over control of the resource, trying to re-establish the order that they all wanted to overthrow.

It's a great analogy to reality.

I put a bit of thought into this. All the water that goes into the ground and escapes the surface eventually makes it back down to the aquifer. They only lose what the sun and the poor people take, although yeah they could work on their distribution anyway.

>Immortan Joe did nothing wrong in that world. He doled out water sparingly because it wasn't an endless spring.

Headcanon.

In reality, he most likely did that because he gave not two shits about anyone but himself, as evident by how he treated anyone who wasn't a member of his family.

>As far as the women go, they are treated better than 95% of the people in the wasteland

Once again, headcanon. People seem to have this image that they were pampered little princesses, but literally all we saw of them was them being chained up in a room. Sure they were clean and pretty, but that literally seemed to be the only benefit, and the downside was having to breed children for your disgusting, diseased rapist. I'm sure there are many women in the wasteland who manage to find a relationship with at least someone they love.

but nobody said that
I think the general consensus was that Joe was lesser of two evils

Who unfortunately get killed, enslaved and or raped; I'd be too fucked up to love anything but water, guzzoline and some sweet war boipucci

>not actually able to refute his post

And this is your average Hillary supporter

All women are whorez, go back to /soc/

>this is your typical Hillary supporter

What the hell are you doing here, OP.

He's not wrong.

There's a reason democracies do not last in war-torn areas: authoritarian dictatorships are just better at surviving brutal conditions and being able to defend oneself while maintaining some semblance of organization.

There's also a reason no 1st world countries are authoritarian dictatorships, to be fair, but still, in a post-apocalyptic wasteland, it just makes good sense for there to be one overarching ruler.

I get what you mean, but rebuilding civilization is a hell of a drug and a lot of history will repeat itself.

Immortan Joe makes comments in the official comic book that his wives live better lives than he does, and that they should be grateful to him for how pampered they are, not angry that in payment for the best life possible in their world, he asks for children.

So yeah, it's not just headcannon: there's actual in-world evidence that the Wives are better off than LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE, and they still get mad that they have to bear Joe's children in exchange for LITERALLY THE CLOSEST THING TO PARADISE IN THEIR POSTAPOCALYPTIC SETTING

BUT HE IS LITERALLY RAPING HIM YOU SHITLORD OMG

>Immortan Joe makes comments in the official comic book that his wives live better lives than he does

Is this shown or is it just bluster, because you can't really take anything he says at face value. I would argue that if they really did live pampered lives, then they would reject Furiosa's offer and turn her in immediately.

>there's actual in-world evidence that the Wives are better off than LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE

Where?

whoa.. it's almost like they would rather have a choice......

really makes you think

>it just makes good sense for there to be one overarching ruler
thats not whats being questioned. "immortan joe did nothing wrong" is what you/he isnt addressing

That's fine, I get that, but you can't say "OMG, Joe was such a dick, why did he abuse those poor women?" He didn't. He kept them as pampered slaves with better lives than anyone else, including himself.

You can talk about choice until you're blue in the face, but it doesn't change that Joe didn't mistreat his wives. Like, at all. By current Western standards, sure he did, but in comparison to literally every other person in the wasteland? No, they are the least abused there, and by far the best-treated of all of Joe's subjects.

>rape
good

>ruling
good

>giving HIS water to the peasants
good

literally nothing wrong

>what is a me-me?

>wasting water by pouring it all over the ground
>good
Ah... youre just retarded.
>this is the average Joe sympathizer

this situation is basically like choosing between rape or death IRL.
Its a nobrainer desu.

>People keep saying that water was limited

You have 79 seconds to give me actual proof from the movie and not just supposition.

i dunno about you, but i would count rape as abuse

It's shown.

They get into a lot of what the daily lives of the people in the Citadel are like, and yeah, the wives are actually better cared-for than Joe himself--which honestly shouldn't be that surprising, seeing as he truly loves them and sees them as the way for him to have a legacy.

In fact, Furiosa insults the wives in the comic for escaping, saying something about how she's willing to help them get out, but they'll soon realize how good they had it and wish to come back.

It caused a big outrage in the feminist blog-o-sphere, because how DARE our feminist icon Furiosa be in any way condoning the grossly misogynistic abuses of Joe on those poor wives?

wait... are you actually implying the water is coming from a magical spring of everlasting water?

Lolno

Immortan Joe was an asshole but those women were just idiot, in the end everything was fucked.

Yeah sure he'll just hand out water bottles to everybody while they loot and rampage through his guards to get it

>he truly loves them
lol. they we're just objects of sex and reproduction. and thats ok - theyre only women.

I'm sorry, you're right. I always forget there aren't natural springs in real life.

It's rape in exchange for everything else being the best it could be. In comparison to being mutilated, living in constant, horrible pain, being so thoroughly irradiated that you're sterile and will die before you're 20, being a blood slave, being branded and tortured, being starved and dehydrated constantly, or being someone who lost their home to decay and rot and now having to wander as a nomad...yeah, the occasional old man dick in exchange for great food, drink, shelter, care, etc seems pretty OK to me

>natural springs are everlasting
Tard.

do you think one natural springs is an endless supply?

You seem like an intelligent individual.
Any idea how we can put an end to this feminism degeneracy? They're ruining everything I enjoy.

Said springs aren't magical, endless supplies. Especially in fucking deserts.

its just a """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""meme""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

its an aquifer

Some are, friendo. Sorry you don't know about things.

But that is love. I love my fleshlight because it provides sex

>headcanon

SOMEONE didn't read the comics.

No, he really does truly love them. He's distraught when Splendid died, and not just because she was bearing his son. He promises to forgive them running away and helping to kill his people so long as they come back to him, and again in the comic, he in a conversation with his son talks about how much he cares for them. He's not just saying it to them to manipulate them, he says it in passing to someone though whom he gains nothing by telling him that, besides relaying the truth: he loves them even if they don't love him.

>another thread where skinnyfat Sup Forums women think they'll be survivalist amazon goddesses in the mad max wasteland cutting off the dicks of every rapist they see

In order to justify your defense of Joe, you are adding 'facts' into the movie that aren't presented.

Sounds really familiar.

you mentioned that they were women twice, thats redundant

lol
isnt that the extremely acidic spring in Yellowstone?
great choice of pic

No they are not

What facts were added?

I've seen nothing being said that isn't in the cannon movie or comic.

>He's distraught when Splendid died, and not just because she was bearing his son
now youre just blatantly lying. rewatch it

For women to properly even bare children or produce the amount of milk that joe was farming, they need to be fed well and taken care of.
Joe's goal was to have strong, healthy heirs. He can't do that if the mothers are malnourished in a shitty environment.
It's guaranteed they got better treatment than pretty much anyone else in the wasteland.
You physically incapable of seeing a few inches past your face, cutie.

Just for funsies, m8.

I implore you to all google the Great Artesian Basin.

>tfw you will not ride eternal shiny and chrome
>tfw you will never ride side by side with your mentally unstable brothers

Are you watching the latest post apocalypse kino youtube.com/watch?v=8zBaKgJr7Ss ?

This is true, he literally wanted a perfect off-spring, because he didn't believe his son could handle the task and be a good leader.

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Having watched it 3 times, he is very distraught when she dies.
youtube.com/watch?v=Tl5cB8oZFto

>Splendid, please! That's my child! My property!
>(splendid falls off, gets crushed)
>flips car to avoid hitting her
>picks her up, moaning
>(minion):Are you alright
>(Joe, cradling her body) OH, NO!

Seems pretty cut and dry to me. He does see her and the child as property, but he also clearly, just by body language alone, cares for her and the child deeply--and that is reinforced by his actions and his dialogue.

What is your point?
abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/04/04/3470245.htm
are you implying its infinite?

lol wtf is this crazy anime shit?!

It's because despite all their memes, Sup Forumstards don't actually understand freedom.

Those women wanted freedom to live their own lives and make their own mistakes, if that means they die of dehydration or whatever then so be it, at least they died on their feet rather than lived on their knees.

Of course some faggots on here would be happy to bend over and take Immortan Joe's cock up their ass for a bottle of water

Still forced them into sex. No means no.

if you wanna be a fucktoy of an old sick man, its your decision, but the brides clearly didn want it

>I'm sure there are many women in the wasteland who manage to find a relationship with at least someone they love.
>implying women are capable of love

If the entire Eastern half of Australia hasn't run it dry by 2016, I guarantee you that a handful of people in a little village won't in 5000 years.

It's ok to admit that you agree with the control of resources in order to maintain power. Just say it, dude.

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Would you prefer to be a fucktoy, or a paraplegic irradiated cripple living off the whims of a dictator who sometimes drops water on your head? And he's the nicest dictator of the bunch?

He was a warlord just trying to make the best of a shit situation

We don't really see much about what life was like for the people under joes rule, with the exception of the water scene.

Why can't I just go die instead?

Do women think these images are funny?
Or is it just a redditor posting this?

lurk more

freedom like that leads to people wallowing in their own shit while the world around them burns. This freedom is a luxury of the modern world and should be limited when the fate of the species is on the line. yes most painless way should be looked for but no one should be given the level of freedom you speak off. like with typhoid mary, when there is a lot on the line you have to limit peoples freedom so others may have the chance to eventually have that freedom.
>least they died on their feet
except most of them went back and took over. imposing their will on freedom of others.

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If you think about it...
The chicks just ended up back in the settlement.
So they didn't really dislike the place they lived, they just really hated living with Joe.
But Joe owned the place.
So basically the women coveted Joe's material goods and got rid of him for it.
But for all we know that place rightfully belonged to Joe. He purportedly sacrificed parts of his life to obtain what he had and get to where he did in life. And those women who never wanted for anything in their lives, who never worked for any of it, just expected automatic ownership.

There's a metaphor here about male and female expectations and rights.
Women had it on easy street, left their man to spend several days suffering in the desert, realized how hard it was in the real world, got rid of their man (aka divorce) and stole all his shit.

>except most of them went back and took over. imposing their will on freedom of others.

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/r9k/ indeed

Except they didn't choose to die of dehydration. They chose to steal from Joe.

That was Max's idea to go back and take the citadel

I think it's probably that they didn't like being raped, forced to carry an unwanted baby, and then being a literal milk cow.

I bet they didn't like that.

Can you 'steal' something that is yours to begin with? Did Joe create the spring?

You forgot the part where they splurg all the water and food the men made to work and save for and end up getting raped by the barbarians at the gate

yeah im sure basin was not nuked and the reason why all the watches did not run off to drink from it is because they had no cars

>Sup Forums
>women
The best we have here is gross trannies, user

>it belongs to everyone maaaan
>why cant we just share, maaan

I like how we can never just have normal threads talking about Mad Max. It's always hurrdurr joe dindu nuffin

Can we at least agree that Aunty Entity did literally nothing wrong?

Beyond Thunderdome ended up being a struggle between good guys with legitimate points

He found it, he protected it so it wouldn't be tainted or completely destroyed by others, he built a community around it and fed them (obviously you can't feed on water alone so they had to have sources of food provided to them by Joe)

Those guys were actually trying to steal something

Unlike Joe who had things stolen

Source?

source is the movie

so? What is your point? Max taking control is ok but joe is not? When you live le freedom style its ok to have no resolve and just give up the wheel the second things look hard? if you are going to meme freedom than they should drive off into the nothingness and kill themselves happy knowing that short while it may have been, they had freedom and lived as they wished. instead we get the everyday entitled outlook of people who spend their lives bashing the system while being more than willing to suck its teet, probably even complain about the low output

She's probably the least villainous of all the Mad Max antagonists. At worst, she's incredibly ruthless, but when you're running a town in a post-apocalyptic wasteland, it's a necessity.

I'd love to know more about The Humungus. The most we know is that he suffered some sort of horrible disfigurement. The gun case may or may not have originally been his.

You guys are legitimately saying that if iprovide a person with something they need. I can can do what ever I want to them. They become my possession.

Don't remember that