One of my favorite movies. IMO my order of the stories from best to worst is
1. Runaway Slave 2. Robert Frobisher 3. Timothy Cavendish 4. Luisa Rey 5. Sonmi 6. Future Earth
I don't think the movie is 2deep4u, but it is enjoyable and I do enjoy that it explores themes of our connectedness to other people and how we define freedom in relation to others. I just wanted to know other Sup Forumsirgins opinions on it.
Definitely my favorite Wachowski movie, though the parts they directed are my least favorite part of it.
"The weak are meat the strong do it" what did he mean by this.
Gavin Ramirez
One of my fave films
Jace Green
I only wish they had kept the future Korean rebels being moral ambiguous and the actual reason all the advanced people are black in the far future from the book. Other than that I like it.
Benjamin Lee
Can you elaborate some user?
Ryder James
Absolutely loved the audacious scope of it. It felt like a story that managed to encompass a bit of everything that's important. Paired with great visuals, an excellent cast, some bad yellowface and the best soundtrack ever, it's one of my favourite films.
Zachary Hughes
the korean rebellion causes the complete destruction of society and forces people to become black in order to survive in the world at all.
how the fuck is that not ambiguous?
Grayson Moore
Love this movie desu
Carter Kelly
Love it although Cavendish storyline is objectively the best.
Luke Green
It has some minor flaws like make-up, but Cloud Atlas is the best story(ies) ever told.
No other story has ever combined so many different eras and plots through a trans-karmic cathartic soul change, like this kino.
Through the various "soul-interactions", they all meet in different times and actively influence each other's future souls.
Cloud Atlas is simply a beautiful story.
Grayson Long
Shitty Sup Forumseddit flick
Hunter Torres
>forces people to become black in order to survive in the world at all I think he's talking about how in the book, they didn't just 'become black,' it was that all the non-black 'elites' died off. The Korea story in the book hints that there's a low 'caste' of bio-engineered workers with dark skin in their time period that do all the most dangerous work, and that this class becomes the survivors of the future.
Ryder Murphy
I liked it. Some of the segments didn't seem very well fleshed out, but others were fucking great. Came off to me like a really good anthology, and it was really interesting to see the actors' transformations throughout. There were a few I didn't catch until the end credits, which is weird cause my dad raised me more to catch the subtle shit in movies than to actually enjoy them and I probably did the opposite with this movie.
Caleb Williams
watched it in theater, 10 dollars well spent
Easton Thompson
1. Timothy Cavendish 2. Future Earth 3. Somni 4. Runaway Slave 5. Robert Fobisher 6. Luisa Rey FTFY >carnivorism >gerontophobia >abuse >earth exploitation >power Think they're looking a bit too far into it. The themes are obviously about freedom against oppression, but most of the time it's not a single concrete oppression or bigoted mindset.
Anyway, I though the yellowface was pretty decent; it was the whiteface that was absolutely horrid.
Grayson Barnes
Its easy to get sucked in. I guess you not noticing is sign of good work.
Grayson Gomez
>Some of the segments didn't seem very well fleshed out, but others were fucking great. This. The '70s story was supposed to be a mystery but there wasn't any mystery and the Pacific Journey was supposed to be an adventure but there's barely anything shown for you to think of it as an adventure. I really hope the extra long cut is released someday.
Ian Torres
as a homo, I think I just relate more to the frobisher story. He is a degenerate pervert who uses people, but I connect to Sixsmith and how forbidden love feels.
Robert Jenkins
>Aussie playing a chink I'm glad the sjw never touched this
Brayden Bell
>The '70s story was supposed to be a mystery but there wasn't any mystery Which is a shame because in the book the 70's story is arguably the most tense and well-written.
Hudson Myers
> "Someone already does." I break into tears like a bitch every time. Movie is meh, but I like the ending for some ambiguous reason.
Christian Turner
>He is a degenerate pervert who uses people, but I connect to Sixsmith and how forbidden love feels. I didn't feel like the story was fleshed out enough to get that. Frobisher just seems like a gay who's really obsessed with his work and Sixsmith just a guy pining after someone. I'd say it's one of the stories with the weakest characterization. Would you recommend the book for someone who really likes the movie or is it too different to say?
Angel Allen
Liked it but it was ridiculously marxist.
Jacob Peterson
Yeah I actually picked up the book because I loved the movie, and it was absolutely worth it (I love to read, but almost all non-fiction.) The Sonmi story alone made it worth it for me (very different, much more fleshed-out) but the 70's story and the Frobisher story are also way, way better in the book. Personally I thought that the book is a little clunky in handling the Adam Ewing story (which makes up the beginning and end of the book, and I think kind of acts as a filter for some people) so just keep that in mind if you pick it up.
Anthony Murphy
That's a really great line. It's always great when a villain or antagonist is persuaded by the protagonist and converts to the other side. He is probably the reason Somni's teachings spread and became influential. Ya, it sure was strange when Zachry started shouting that the workers of the world must unite and take over the workplaces, especially when there's not even industry anymore. How different is the book and in what ways?
Samuel Robinson
Yea, not wanting to be a slave makes you a marxist
Bentley Carter
Yeah I loved it.
I downloaded a fan edit which edits all the stories to be in order like the book so cant wait to rewatch
Landon Adams
Its nice to see a movie full of color for once
Owen Carter
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David Miller
The book had a lot of character development that wouldn't work in a movie, but actually adds a lot to the stories (Frobisher, for example, is a much more nuanced character in the book--he's an asshole, yes, but he's more sympathetic when you learn about his life, and you come to feel for him as he's being abused by characters who literally don't even appear in the movie.) The Sonmi story is different, ironically, in a way that's kind of comparable to the differences between the Matrix script and the Matrix movie. In the book the Sonmi story is a very abstract exploration of human value and 'what makes us human'. You can tell the movie makes efforts to at least try and stay on a similar track as the book, but essentially the movie boils it down to "action sequences and the climax where Sonmi finds the human slaughterhouse".
Bentley Nguyen
Agreed on the sonmi front. I feel like they really sold her character and story short in the movie.
Julian Perez
That's a good point. Cloud Atlas looks great because it's so vibrant and full of color. Why the fuck are most movies so fucking colorless and bleak?
Camden Hill
One of those movies that come along very rarely where everything seems so weird the whole way through and you finish it and just say. Huh.
Nathaniel Fisher
Which is kind of weird because the Sonmi arc was on like 90% of the Cloud Atlas promotional material I saw. I also think the Wachowski siblings saw the Sonmi story as their personal darling, hence the focus on sci-fi action sequences.
