How would an orc know what a menu is?

How would an orc know what a menu is?

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are their girl orcs?

They dont, but its an expression thats localised, whatever they said in oarfish who knows

retard.
it was from merry and pippins POV so they are speaking "common tongue" - english

What, they're not allowed to be cultured and know a bit of french all of a sudden?

It just feels strange that Lotr orcs would have resturants.

test

15 years later and I still don't know the point of this scene.

why are the mods such pole smokers?

>commenting on this
>when Aragorn and others yell "FIRE" instead of "LOOSE"

you probably deserved it

That's in the book though.

no
they just have something against me because im not constantly posting pictures of black cocks

u mite be retarded.
i understood it at 11

you seem mad.
i hope you get banned again.

Weren't they elves at some point?
I'm sure elves had menus.

Are you fucking stupid?

Honest question. It's fucking obvious.

well i hope you get aids and die then

>Fire at Will!

What the hell Gothmog? This is not one of the Pirates movies, the correct way of adressing Orlando Bloom would be Legolas. Plus he's not even on the battlefield at this point.

>its an user gets mad at being banned instead of enjoying the break episode

>Pikes in front archers behind

How many orcs are named Pike? jesus christ

They probably don't use the word menu in the context of ordering form the restaurant, they use it in the sense of what's being served today.

The concept of a menu isn't that foreign.

Perhaps they are presented with multiple choices of practical weaponry before being sent to war, and some commander once classified it as a "weapon menu".

If an orc was ever given any choice in anything there is a very good chance that someone will at some point have referred to it as a menu, isn't it?

what the fuck kinda contrived bullshit is this

theyd need to know what menus are in order to understand a list of weapons was a weapon menu

Well we can jump through many hoops. Someone has to server Saruman his meals, and maybe he has a menu to chose from? He doesn't have that many human servants as far as I recall, so he'd probably have an orc fetch his menu.

It's not like orcs aren't capable of language, so there's no reason this word would not get stored in some orcs heads.

yeah although they never appear in anything

Are all orcs dug out of the ground, or is that just the Uruks?

orcs used to be elves i think. (im not an expert on tolkien lore).

I actually heard that orcs were combinations of men and elves. And if you want to breathe much more than necessary into something that probably isn't right in the first place, you can conclude that the combination of men and elves produce beautiful offspring which is the only combination that become orcs over time.

I don't know what I'm talking about.

Only the first ones. After that, they just interbred and made moar orcses. I'm like 75% sure orcs do live birth though. Nasty thought.

yeah, maybe they are familiar with pause menus from their favorite video games

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But how would an Orc know what a song is? Did they have music? Why did Tolkein shed so little light on Orc culture? Was he deliberately dehumanising the enemy because he's a hack writer who couldn't pen a convincing reason for conflict to save his life?

>But how would an Orc know what a song is? Did they have music?

WHERE THERE'S A WHIP

*wapish*

THERE'S A WAY

why did you say it

This is some high speed low drag retardation right here.

>Orcs are so uncivilized they don't even have restaurants or even a method of displaying food information that can fit in your hands
Wow, racist much?

Is it so crazy to think that not all orcs are conscripted into Saurons army? There must be things like farmers, millers, road workers, couriers, builders, transporters etc. What if there are orc communitites? Are old orcs relieved of service? Its not so difficult to imagine things like inns and taverns existing in such a world.

>Is it so crazy to think that not all orcs are conscripted into Saurons army
In hindsight its fun to think about - but really Tolkien just made them all as bad guys. So Anything your imagination can conjure up about farmer or family village orcs should not be credited to Tolkien

The most memorable part of that scene for me is when the orc says Yeeeeaaaahhh

Wasn't there something about all the volcanic soil in Mordor being really good for the farms required to feed Sauron's armies in the book?

Sauron took men and other species to slaves to feed them orcs. But anyway they have communities with woman and child orcs. All with bars and restaurants.

Yes, there are lands south and east of Mt. Doom that are fertile enough for agriculture.

Dragons - OK
Magic - OK
Ghosts - OK
Trolls - OK
Menus - NO FUCKING WAY, OFF THE RAILS INSANE!!!

Why are their rations just bread? No wonder they were such shitty fighters, they had zero energy.

The Hobbit did it way worse.

Didn't the orcs say "for we are legion?" How are the orcs quoting the Bible?

it's MAGGOTY bread so it gotta have protein and shit

>tfw just trying to tend your humble orc plot
>tfw conscripted to get killed by numenorians and eagles and shit

>mfw drums, drums in the deep

Emily Blunt

Why did the Uruks take meat off the menu in the first place? Do they just enjoy being assholes?

lol you fucking retard

>tfw you come home from work and your shitty thread is still up

she was being tested by the power of the ring. She = mighty powerfull elf queen, and the scene was showing the immense power of the ring to corrupt even the fairest and most righteous. It was important for Frodo to make his decision to keep going knowing the immense odds.

It shows a different part of the ring's potential. She's a being of immense power already, meaning she could bend the ring to her will, and set herself up as a new lord in Sauron's place, and in fact, that was Sauron's greatest fear, which they used against him to make him not suspect their plan was the Ring's destruction.

>Why did the Uruks take meat off the menu in the first place?
They were sold out of manflesh.

>meaning she could bend the ring to her will
Nope broski, nobody can bend the ring to their will except Sauron. It's a part of Sauron and therefore people who put on the ring will inevitably become more Sauron-like and thus corrupted. The point of the scene is that if she tried her best to bend the ring to her will she would still end up being a corrupted tyrant, just with a slightly different flavor. Even Gandalf refused to touch the ring.

I thought the common tongue was a different language too and supposedly the books were translations to English.

>more Sauron-like and thus corrupted
Right, but powerful, is what I mean. Someone like Bilbo or Smeagol start withering away with the ring's influence. The fact that Galadriel or Gandalf can become Sauron-like is significant.

> In The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, Westron was presented as having been completely translated into English. This had certain important implications: first of all, proper names with derivations somewhat evident to speakers of Westron had been 'translated', to preserve the effect. Thus, names like "Baggins", "Bagshot Row", "Peregrin", "Rivendell", etc. are presented as not the actual names. For example, Meriadoc Brandybuck's actual name is supposed to have been Kalimac Brandagamba, short Kali (meaning jolly, merry). 'Meriadoc', short 'Merry', is designed to maintain the reference to merriness contained in the original name. Likewise Peregrin Took's actual name was Razanur Tûc, short Razar (name of a small apple). 'Peregrin', short 'Pippin' contained both the actual meaning of the full name (traveller, stranger) and the reference to an apple. Sam Gamgee (shortened from Samwise Gammidgy) was actually named Ban Galpsi, short for Banazîr Galbasi. The ending of the 'true' Hobbit name Bilbo was also changed: in Westron it was Bilba, but Tolkien changed this to -o because -a is usually a female ending in English, whereas it was a male ending in Westron.
> Tolkien states that Frodo’s name in the fictional language of Westron was Maura Labingi

How did the orcs know how to count? Do they have some general education classes before heading out as soldiers and stuff?

The shores of the lake Nurnen are described to be in agricultural use in south-east Mordor

When Gandalf said "fly you fools" it was because he finally understood that their walking tour was a failure and they should fly to Mordor on eagles.

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>Getting charged by the entire nation of Rohan on horseback
>I ain't gettin' paid enough for this shit

Makes sense.

>phone poster
>retarded

pick two, every time, forever

really fires up the ol' noggin

nice reddit joke

Kek, made my day OP, I'm a retard for laughing so hard.

>fire
>not "loose"
you fire a gun, not a bow. fucking PJ ruins everything

>How did the orcs know how to count
Ravens and magpies and other birds know how to count and no one teaches them. The same applies to you. How do orcs pick up language then? From their parents. I'm more amazed about the extensive knowledge of Gandalf, where and how did he learn all that shit, or was he simply born with it all in his head. He doesn't even actually have a head. He's a GOD

>Boromir (TM)
>Gimli (TM)
>Moria (TM)

>Legolas and Pippin, who gives a fuck.

>translate Maura as Frodo

What a hack. Get me the raws, even I could do better than that.

>"why cunt we have some meat?"
>mfw maggots are meat

Go back GRRM

you tell me

Mordor though barbaric is widely known for its fine dining

I like to think orcs have rambunctious shitty run down resturaunts. Imagine like any tavern in any pirate movie.

The only thing on the menus are Maggoty Bread, Maggoty Meat, and whatever that shitty drink was they fed merry and peppin that one time, there was a name for it I forgot

>Did they have music?
Yes. Read the fucking books.

>Why did Tolkein shed so little light on Orc culture?
Maybe you should actually read his shit instead of playing armchair critic who didn't even fucking read what he's criticizing.

IMAGINE

Is it just me or is Chloe growing stronger by the day?

Was it autism?

>It is the 24th of October
What did Gandalf mean by this

you oarfs forget that uruk hais and orcs are corrupted elves. maybe they still remember their old lingo. elves are upper class humanoids

Gandalf literally talks about guns at one point but THIS is your problem?

Fuck you and your worthless autism.

Why the fuck is it the people who don't know what they're talking about are the ones most arrogant?

Orcs may have originated from Elves (that was one version, Tolkien never settled on the nature of Orcs due to various theological problems) but that was from generations of breeding to create Orcs. No Orc ever started out life as an Elf.

Tolkien did actully shed quite a bit of light on Orc culture in the books.

However, long-winded worldbuilding lore is generally not stuff you want in movies that are already pushing 3 hours each, so those parts were some of the first to go when converting the books into the films. All the discussions of syntax and song and culture of the various peoples of Middle Earth, while interesting, has no place in an adventure story and was only included in the books because Tolkien was a linguist by profession, and so spent more time than he probably should have fleshing out every region and culture and race in Middle Earth.

Is she on steroids?

>According to the oldest "theory" proposed by J.R.R. Tolkien (found inThe Fall of Gondolin, fromThe Book of Lost Tales, circa 1917—the first tale of Middle-earth to be written in full), Orcs were made of slime through the sorcery ofMorgoth: "bred from the heats and slimes of the earth"

Apparently they used this origin version in the movies. You can clearly see Saruman bake them in the mud.

But Saruman also said they originated from Elves. So I guess Jackson mixed the too, with an origin from Elves but can be bred artificially.

of course