Team supported; >Arsenal Who do you think is more talented; >Messi Who do you think has had the better career; >Ronaldo
Nolan Collins
holy shit Halal wins two preseason games and suddenly Penaldo is the greatest athlete in the history of mankind calm your tits ffs
Noah Morales
>Messi Barcelona La Liga: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09, 2009–10, 2010–11, 2012–13, 2014–15, 2015–16 Copa del Rey: 2008–09, 2011–12, 2014–15, 2015–16, 2016–17 Supercopa de España: 2006, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016 UEFA Champions League: 2005–06, 2008–09, 2010–11, 2014–15 UEFA Super Cup: 2009, 2011, 2015 FIFA Club World Cup: 2009, 2011, 2015 International Argentina FIFA U-20 World Cup: 2005 Olympic Gold Medal: 2008
>Ronaldo Club Sporting CP Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira: 2002 Manchester United[556] Premier League: 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09 FA Cup: 2003–04 Football League Cup: 2005–06, 2008–09 FA Community Shield: 2007 UEFA Champions League: 2007–08 FIFA Club World Cup: 2008 Real Madrid[556] La Liga: 2011–12, 2016–17 Copa del Rey: 2010–11, 2013–14 Supercopa de España: 2012, 2017 UEFA Champions League: 2013–14, 2015–16, 2016–17 UEFA Super Cup: 2014, 2017 FIFA Club World Cup: 2014, 2016 International Portugal UEFA European Championship: 2016
Asher Martin
Messi is still the better player. Ronaldo will retire with more team accolades but neither of them will ever win a world cup so individual skill > league titles when it comes to them, imo.
Lincoln Jones
Team supported; >Newcastle Who do you think is more talented; >Ronaldo Who do you think has had the better career; >Ronaldo
Adrian Young
>AC Milan >Messi >Ronaldo thus far but that's because he's lucked into a stacked Madrid while Barcelona have sharply declined as a club with Messi having to carry the mess.
Aaron Sanders
why do you have to make it so difficult, why not just post
Team supported; Who do you think is more talented; Who do you think has had the better career;
and go ?
Jacob Myers
Messi hasn't carried shit. Literally did nothing today despite having chances.
Nicholas Bennett
yeah, tsu is goat
Thomas Richardson
i was going to post the individual accolades for both, but it would legit take like 6 posts, due to character limit.
i can't even screenshot them, ffs
>tfw you have won 5 academic awards and 2 sports medals in 23 years of existence and you are immensely proud of that fact >tfw these guys couldn't even name the amount/names of the awards they have won
Jace Reyes
Everton If Messi never won a single thing and played for Malaga his whole career he'd still be GOAT. Ronaldo can win everything but if you sat someone down and asked them who the better player was, without any previous bias, 99 percent would say Messi.
Only a spastic would think Ronaldo is a better player, which isn't a knock on Ronaldo. I love TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU man and his ridiculously flamboyant, hard working nature.
Elijah Phillips
messi still better thou his prime is already over meanwhile ronaldo is a lil behind him but his right now his prime have just begun
William Ross
Team: Colo Colo Most Talented : Jorge Valdivia Better Career: Arturo Vidal go fuck yourself
Ethan Taylor
and the others before that...................................
Parker Phillips
Cristiano:
>Won Copa del Rey 2011 over Messi >Won Supercopa de España 2012 over Messi >Won Supercopa de España 2017 over Messi
Messi: >Won Champions League 2009 over Cristiano >Won Supercopa de España 2011 over Cristiano
Messi has won the most important Trophy but Cristiano has won more finals over him.
Austin Gomez
>Valdivia >implying not alexis
hue
Leo Harris
>Ronaldo lucked >implying Messi didn't oh so all those years when Messi had Xavi and Iniesta at peak powers counted for nothing?
Carter Jones
messi played with xaviniesta torres back to back treble winner eto, puyol, dani alves, while ronaldo was playing with diarra, adebayor and higuain. you tell me
Alexander Ramirez
and what trophy is that exactly? I hope you're not talking about the Olympic Gold. Which isn't even a fucking trophy lmao
Bentley Price
Messi does more for Barcelona than Ronaldo does for Madrid. Barcelona without Messi falls apart, Madrid without Ronaldo is just fine when you have players like Isco and Asensio.
Charles Perry
meant to say villa instead of torres. my point stands though
Elijah Sanders
ronaldo's carreer is way more impressive but in terms of talent its pretty equal tbdh
id still pick cristiano over messi first to build a team
Xavier Myers
Champions League 2009 over Cristiano's ManU
I'm talking about direct KOs
Kevin Cox
They also won the UEFA Super Cup, the Champions League and the él La Liga in the last 3 months.
Blake Powell
Banwagonned team: Liverpool More talented: Messi Better career: both equal I think But from the perspectice of who is more likeable majority might choose Ronaldo. He's talented but not as talented as Messi so he make it up with hardwork which is the thing that make him 'more connected' to your average person.
Asher Smith
that's not Ronaldo's problem. That's the fault of the manager and the board.
Thomas Hughes
Team supported; >Los Blancos (parents from Madrid) Who do you think is more talented; >Ronaldo Who do you think has had the better career; >Ronaldo
>tfw live in Dallas and a Cowboy's fan. I'm the biggest bandwagon unironically how do I shake this status? I go to many Cowboys game and Real Madrid games too
Ryan Hughes
Ronaldo has actually won something with his NT.
Ronaldo has actually won trophies in multiple countries.
Ronaldo is actually 32 and shows no real signs of slowing the fuck down.
Brandon Wood
>Team supported; Pumas >Who do you think is more talented; Messi >Who do you think has had the better career; Hard to tell tbqh
Jeremiah Cruz
Team supported: Borussia Dortmund Who do you think is more talented: Messi Who do you think had the best career: Ronaldo, I remember people shitting on him all the time and all the humiliating defeats, Mourinho parking the bus and leaving him alone at the top. Him running his ass off, one man against the best team in the world.
Michael Carter
>Who do you think has had the better career Ronaldo obviously. Reminder he has a more extensive trophy cabinet than Messi. Reminder that Ronaldo did it with 2 clubs. Balon d'Ors while on 2 different clubs. Reminder that Ronaldo has done it with the national team. Ronaldo has a better scoring record than Messi in La Liga and internationally. Ronaldo holds BOTH records for most goals and assists in the champions league. Ronaldo adapts to everchanging teammates while Messi has been exposed when Iniesta doesn't play
Jason Sanders
>poortuguese league >eplel with Manure Nah, who cares. His exploits in europe are all that matter.
Brody Howard
offsidenaldo is a zizou babby
Luke Myers
>Team supported; QSG >Who do you think is more talented; I have eyes, Messi >Who do you think has had the better career; Messi
messi wins ballon d'or when he performs, ronaldo wins ballon d'or when messi underperforms
despite having a carreer full of chokes messi is the goat, while ronaldo is blessed by luck
Jacob Ross
>despite having a carreer full of chokes ....
Nathaniel Russell
>I remember people shitting on him all the time and all the humiliating defeats, Mourinho parking the bus and leaving him alone at the top. Him running his ass off, one man against the best team in the world. THIS. jose deserted him like the scared bitch he was
Jackson Davis
but ronaldo has a euro cup over messi. messie doesnt even have a copa america.
Andrew Anderson
>Audax Italiano >Messi >Tsunaldo
Cameron Watson
Tie ur way to a final dont even play the final(not his fault I know) = goat chearleader on the side lines lol
Sebastian Ward
Reminder he did fuck all against the mighty Iceland and didn't play the final with fucking EDER scoring the winning goal.
Jaxon Murphy
>being on the wrong side of history
Christian Nguyen
100% this holy shit
Matthew Smith
>scoring penalties >disappearing in big games >yelling at ramos yeah he does SO much for barca
Jose Wilson
I think ur talking about ur self leaf friend...
Tyler Smith
Messi was the only consistent threat today for Barcelona while Ratking was busy diving and everyone else choking.
David King
Why are you still on the messi bandwagon? how many exposures will it take?
So Messi never played with Xavi, Iniesta, and Eto'o/Villa at their very best?
Gabriel Brown
I like ronaldoooo u like messi I hate u now. Are u 12... Messi will always be better the Penaldo the fact is Messi is carry Barca right now. If Messi wasn't playing the score line would have been much worse you cant say the same about Ronaldu, as shown today Real Madrid dont even need Ronalduuu anymore..
Jordan Ortiz
My boi tsunaldo has a way better team right now, I know that now for a fact... Barca need Messi, Real Madrid dont need Ronaldo.
Luke White
Don't forget Ibra, Thuram, Ronaldinho
Nathaniel Nguyen
so.. did Neymar know something we didn't?
Seems like he jumped ship at the right time.
Charles Turner
Alianza
Messi
I think considering how much worse and older than Messi he is you need to acknowledge that he really tries and deserves all he's got. Messi lucked out not only being the best thing ever but also expending his best years among other talents. Now Ronaldo can enjoy his stacked team making him life easier.
Elijah Young
Yep, that's why he was both Real's top goal scorer and top assister in the CL last season. And see here
John Peterson
Don't argue with messhit poster. They only base their opinions on favouritism rather than logic. Save your breathes for TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Nathaniel Edwards
Whats the significance of that stat? Is he padding in losses or making crucial shots? Im an ameritard obviously so...
Blake Garcia
Obviously
Landon Ross
if ronaldo is always carried then explain to me the fact that he's the all time champions league leader in assists?
Charles Long
Peak Messi is better than peak Ronaldo, but I'd say if Ronaldo has another GOAT tier year like last season and Barcelona do nothing again, Ronaldo will have had a better career.
Nicholas Green
>peak Ronaldos never even had a peak, he's always been this consistent
Luis Bennett
Yeah, but so has Messi. That's why they are both miles ahead of the other top players. They don't have off years like Hazard did in 15/16 or turn to irredeemable shit like Suarez last and this season.
Asher Rivera
so for the ones that matter
>Missi >Barcelona 8 Liga titles 5 Copa del Rey 4 Champions League
Total = 17 titles of importance
>Ronnie >Manchester United 3 Premier League titles 1 FA Cup 1 Champions League
>Real Madrid 2 Liga Titles 2 Copa Del Rey 3 Champions League
>Portugal 1 Euro
Total = 13 titles of importance
John Reed
ITT: recency bias.
Justin Nelson
>these trophies matter because i say so Also, ronaldo has 4 champions leagues. Scored in 3 of those and became the only player to do so
Nathaniel Cook
well I mean the others are one off games/supercups and the FIFA club world cup.. hardly relevant wouldn't you say?
Sebastian Garcia
Suarez is one of the best strikers in the plantet in terms of pure scoring ability
Robert Fisher
This... /thread tb h fäm
Justin Reed
>Has Ronaldo's *CAREER* overtaken Messi's ? Possibly, yeah. By a tiny bit but yes. They are now tied at 4CLs, and Ronaldo will win his 5th Ballon d'or. Ronaldo comes out ahead because he won a title with his NT, while having arguably a much weaker NT than Messi
>Who do you think is more talented Anyone who really understands this sport knows they are both equally talented. Only niños rata who started watching football in 2009 could possibly think CR is not a talented footballer
Caleb Campbell
>Missi great success with one club short ugly beta said club is scum of the football world
>Ronaldo great success with multiple clubs great success with NT tall handsome alpha said club is no saint but is an angel in comparison
Julian Mitchell
1 Euro counts for at least three trophies IMHO.
You can't really have all those trophies adding up to the same amount individually.
It's like goals scored in lesser leagues not valued as much in the golden shoe race.
Jacob Turner
>implying barca needed Messi when they had Xavi, Iniesta and Eto'o
Hunter Cooper
Messi's international record is irrelevant since he plays on a team that would be worse than the US without him. Ronaldo goes down and Portugal since win the final.
Thomas Thompson
You idiots were no where to be found until eder won a euro for portugal
Oliver Howard
Ronaldo's career is missing most the euro final on a booboo. Messi could probably play a real sport of he wanted to. Ronaldo could only model.
James Butler
actually we were cheering for him in his 2008 balon dor season where he set the record for most goals in a 38 games season, scored and won the CL final did you even know the messi name before 2009?
Parker Johnson
Copa America vs Chile
Group Stage w/o Messi: Argentina win Final w/ Messi: Argentina lose on penalties
Luis Torres
Except those are considered some of Messi's best years moron.
Lincoln Powell
Team supported; >Liverpool Who do you think is more talented; >Messi Who do you think has had the better career; >Ronaldo atm
Xavier Hughes
>Team supported; Inter >Who do you think is more talented; Messi >Who do you think has had the better career; Ronaldo. I mean, come on, ffs Messi doesn't even have any national trophy.
Cooper Foster
Eder>Messi confirmed.
Logan Mitchell
What does he say "---- a tu madre"
Ethan Roberts
>Team supported; >>Man United >Who do you think is more talented; >>Messi. Out of this world. >Who do you think has had the better career; >>Ronaldo, no doubt.
Gabriel Wright
If you had asked the same question in 2013, everyone would have said Messi for both.
But Ronnie really has taken his career to the next level in past 4 years
Lincoln Harris
Messi aged like milk Ronaldo aged like wine
Gavin Murphy
Messi had a higher but shorter peak than ronaldo, while ronaldo's peak has been longer. So Ronaldo > Messi , but Peak Messi > Peak Ronaldo
Joseph Harris
Messi is more talented. CR7 is the better player since 2014, and has a better career.
Levi Rogers
If Ronaldo's next 3 years are like the last 3 Messi may never catch him desu
Jordan Thompson
This
Madrid is a team that is constantly switching coaches and players, and he obviously had to do more, when messi started a team was already in place and kept going, unfortunately Barcelona is run by a bunch of idiots and thus messi sucks ass
Dominican here. Don't know anything about football, but Ronaldo is goat. Fuck argentinians
Carter Walker
>Team supported; Whoever is managed by my nigga, Mouyes. Also Milan when Sheva played for them.
>Who do you think is more talented; Obviously Messi.
>Who do you think has had the better career; Obviously Ronaldo.
>Messi Barcelona La Liga: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09, 2009–10, 2010–11, 2012–13, 2014–15, 2015–16 Copa del Rey: 2008–09, 2011–12, 2014–15, 2015–16, 2016–17 UEFA Champions League: 2005–06, 2008–09, 2010–11, 2014–15
>Ronaldo Premier League: 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09 FA Cup: 2003–04 UEFA Champions League: 2007–08 La Liga: 2011–12, 2016–17 Copa del Rey: 2010–11, 2013–14 UEFA Champions League: 2013–14, 2015–16, 2016–17 UEFA European Championship: 2016
Deleted the irrelevant shit.
Henry Allen
Messi is the mainstream but ultimately correct choice. Ronaldo is the edgy Sup Forums contrarian choice.
Nicholas Sullivan
>Including Euro 2016 He didn't genuinely play in that match.
Cameron Reed
He made crucial contributions leading to it.
Samuel Nguyen
He did play, retard.
Got subbed in minute 25.
Jacob White
I'm sure the referees would have fulfilled the obligations of their UEFA orders without him on the field desu
Oliver Gutierrez
>Spic reading comprehension
Leo Ortiz
They could have drawn their way to the final without him. In fact they might have actually won some games if they didn't need to satisfy his hero obsession in their game plan
Parker Johnson
Maybe but they looked pretty toothless without him in the final (against a much better team admittedly) but whataboutery shouldn't matter when he scored or assisted in almost every game and helped the team by simply being on the field and drawing attention away from his teammates. He contributed to their euro win.
Jonathan Mitchell
>Ronaldo didn't play that Match because i say so
Funny thing Is that you complain about Ronaldo in a match he actually played and not about Messi's first CL.