Swedes were both vikings and a great power. All other countries in the world can only claim one or zero of these things.
Swedes were both vikings and a great power. All other countries in the world can only claim one or zero of these things
Noah Ross
Justin Kelly
umm think agen sweedy
Isaiah Jenkins
Because nobody have any kind of interest in that frozen shithole
Thomas Thomas
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Xavier Flores
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Isaac Jones
>swedes
>v*kings
Matthew Cook
So are you saying that vikings are literally niggers
Nicholas Rodriguez
>Cotrolled some irrelevant frozen islands and mountains
>Great power
Yes. We actually fought against eastern european tribes instead of just discovering shitty islands like you did
John Bailey
I prefer 'snow niggers', it makes me feel like a special snow flake.
Noah Ross
We were literally all the way down in Baghdad and Afghanistan while you simply raided some neighboring monks lmao. Also we've always been the strongest nation of the Nordic countries.
Cooper Walker
Yes.
Also, they're creators of Kievian Rus
Chase Smith
>Vikings
>SW Finland
Nice autism fiction
Michael Perez
>strongest Nation
In wich way?
Zachary Williams
settling and surviving on frozen islands is no easy feat. But you also seem to ignore three things:
1) The Norwegian Realm controlled land in was is now modern day Sweden (for example Gothenburg and upwards)
2) The british isles were not unpopulated when we arrived
3) We were and always have been better sailors than you
Jacob Stewart
>muh middle east
harald hardråde made shitaly and northern africa his bitch
the norwegian crusade is unironically the most successful crusade in history as well
Kayden Diaz
And how does any of these things prove that you were a great power?
Connor Anderson
Even the Finnish version shows the same
Brayden Cox
>harald hardråde made shitaly and northern africa his bitch
It was swedes that made up the bulk of his army
Ian Harris
The Great Norwegian Empire will not be denied.
Ayden Perry
>Intressialueet
That means the Vikings, generally from the island of Gotland which had favorable relations with Finnish tribes came there to trade.
The idea of Viking colonies comparable to Aldjuborg etc in Finland is science fiction.
Lincoln Murphy
You know that Scandinavians were basicaly the same people back then? Spoke the same language and everything. Arguing about who raided what is pointless.
Jace Kelly
>were
Austin Moore
Rurik was a fennoswede.
Hunter Diaz
the somalians of the medieval age
Leo Powell
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Colton Parker
Thanks, added to my collection
Jack Murphy
Swedes weren't vikings and being proud of swedish """"empire"""" is being cucked by bloodthirsty tyrants and nobility that bled the peasantry dry in retarded wars.
Leo Jenkins
The direct descendants of the Vikings are Danish
Angel Gutierrez
Nathan Allen
Rurik was a swede
Ryan James
And then got beaten up by Russians
Great northern war was a stupid war.
Jonathan Morales
The difference is that Vikings looted foreign lands. Niggers loot from their own neighbourhood stores.
Juan Bennett
Rurik was N1c Finnish.
Christian Turner
>we
mfw the only varangian to ever matter was harald "the bulgar-burner" sigurdsson. and no, denmark was the head honcho for a while (see: canute the great, sweyn forkbeard, kalmar union)
Matthew Morris
Uralic men have been migrating to Sweden to have intercourse with Germanic women for thousands of years. N1c can be just as Swedish as any other haplogroup because it went through Germanic vaginas.
Wyatt Wilson
nice "empire" you had there
Nicholas Rivera
>Rurik was N1c Finnish.
Cool Finnish name.
Helgi, Helga, Ingwar, Ragnheiðr, Olav, Astrid, Sveneld, Ásmundr cool Finnish names too.
Jose James
See Uralic sperm goes in the Swedish vagina. Out comes a new and improved Swede.
Samuel Bailey
this
Elijah Martin
Finns are subhumans and should not even be in this thread, they have no history and deserve to live in Greenland with their Eskimo relatives.
Chase Garcia
Eskimos have different haplogroups except the ones from Chukotka.
Cooper Edwards
Yeah I know, it was an insult, you are Chinese
Samuel Powell
Shit skins will never comprehend the skill behind successfully launching those raids. They think that boarding a charter plane and stealing pocket change from the people that gave them asylum is the same as masterfully building a wooden motherfucking boat far ahead of its time, navigating across rough seas with viking age navigation and then having the logistics mind to keep your men fed and supplied even during the winter months in a foreign land, when most armies of the times were inactive during winter because it's really that hard to fight wars during winter.
Sebastian Stewart
Mongolian.
Chinese are a weak race from the southside of the Yangtze river.
Colton Fisher
No, I know a Mongolian guy and he looks nothing like Finns, all Chinese people look exactly like the Finnish phenotype.
Benjamin Ward
Why don't you go and listen to Sabaton and Carolus Cuck while wanking your micrepeen to BBC's taking your women
David Watson
>Sabaton
I know a very good track.
Oliver Evans
N1c isn't exclusive to Finland. Sweden isn't only populated by Germanic people, you know?
Asher Davis
Why are swedes the only ones going "muh empire" You never see danes doing that
Oliver Gomez
Because Danes were always crushed and submitted to the Swede.
Landon Williams
Denmark has never been a part of Sweden, yet Sweden has been a part of Denmark. Checkmate Swedocentrists
Cameron Cook
Well they have oversea colonies and Sweden got cucked by Russia. So Danes kinda won.
Xavier Collins
>Sweden got cucked by Russia.
I don't see Finland as Sweden, so no. Losing a colony doesn't mean much.
Austin Price
Swedish empire should've been the whole area controlling the baltic sea. And you lost it.
It's not an empire if it's just present day Sweden
Asher Jenkins
I'm not OP and I couldn't care less of those shitholes.
Robert Perez
Then why are some swedes
>muh empire
>lol i don't care about those areas
Nathan Lewis
Åland
Isaiah Walker
theres literally 0 viking archeological findings in that area lol. vikings never set foot on finnic lands because they fear the shaman. only afters converting to christianity swedes could muster the courage to come here
Jason Turner
>losing half of the country doesn't mean much
Robert Sanders
More like there wasn't any point of settling. They would rather trade.
Just look at the map. There wasn't point making settlements here. In Ladoga and nevariver and rivers to Russia and Byzantium
Owen Wilson
If I had it I'd give it away just to segregate the mongoloids.
Kevin Sanders
Then it's not much of a empire. Finnish military is much larger. How did it work out?
Wyatt Taylor
>More like there wasn't any point of settling.
Wrong!
>Among the Finns' western neighbours, the Norse of Scandinavia, it was a common belief that the Finns were wizards. In the Norse sagas, inclusion of a Finnish element almost always signifies a supernatural aspect to the story.
en.wikipedia.org
Josiah Murphy
Oh but they settled on other Finnic lands in Ladoga area and Estonia?
Seems like no shamans and wizards there even if same people.
Jack Perry
They were welcomed there by the Novgorod Slavs.
Luis Stewart
There weren't any slavs in Estonia.
And Saaremaa had a viking settlement and Saaremaa is closer to Sweden than Finland.
Estonia was Christianized later than Finland. And there wasnt slavs in Ladoga area back in the viking time.
Logan Morris
Novgorod was like 300 years after the viking age
Asher Miller
dds bög
Dylan Wilson
t. Finnish diaspora
Ethan Brooks
>WE WUZ VIKANGZ N SHIEET
Anthony Campbell
Your entire understanding of the subject is pretty much Viking WEWUZ. You must be a Finland-Swede.
Vikings didn't settle Saaremaa.
Ladoga had Slavic influence from the 7th century onwards. The lake Ilmajärvi Slavs supplied their Viking friends with everything they needed including military assistance.
William Carter
Shut up Fennosw*de dog
Logan Thomas
en.wikipedia.org
Think again, Håkan.
Add to the fact that Sweden has been under Danish rule, but Denmark has NEVER been under Swedish rule.
Matthew Cook
Inget fel med att älska östsvenskar
Ayden Harris
Ei vaan viikininkejä ei kiinnostanu juurikaan Suomen alue, koska Laatokalta pääsi bysantille. Suomen alue oli vaan pelkkää metsää josta sai turkiksia paikallisislta.
Jos viikingit oli niin peloissaan suomalaisa shamaaneja, miksei ne olleet peloissaan virolaisia ja karjalaisia? Laatokan alueellahan ne karjalaiset
Virolaiset ja liiviläiset baltian rannoilla.
Jeremiah Ramirez
Ja täähän pitäs olla we wuz karjalaisia ja virolaisia eikä hurreja. Ku ruotsalaiset ei tehny mitään Suomelle vaan karjalaan ja viroon
Sulla on vähän toi historia hakusessa ja maantiede
Christopher Parker
Oli miten oli, slaavilainen torakkalauma ilmajärvellä oli valmiina kuolemaan viikinkiensä puolesta.
Laatokan viikingit olisivat olleet helposti teurastettavissa jos olisi ollut vastarintaa kuten Saarenmaalla.
Blake Sullivan
The north sea empire wasn't a great power though
Matthew Richardson
Niin no pointti oli ettei viikingit koskaan yrittäneet tänne mitään perustaa ku siinä ei ollut mitään järkeä. Puhe jostain noidista on vaan pelottelua. Samaa kulttuuriperintöä virolaiset ja karjalaiset, vepsäläiset ja muut itämerensuomalaiset on. Miksei ne niitä pelännyt?
Kun katsoo vähän sitä karttaa niin tajuaa.
Gavin White
Juuh yritä nyt vittu tajuta että viikingit perustivat siirtokuntia sinne missä ei ollut vastarintaa koska olivat sotureina melko heikkoja. Noituuteen tuskin vakasti uskoivat.
Eipä sillä erityisesti väliä ole vaikka eivät olisi edes halunneet Suomeen mutta jos vastarintaa ei olisi ollut niin toki täällä olisi sentään muutama siirtokunta ollut.
Austin Rodriguez
Because of geography, if Denmark would be attached to Scandinavia it would have become Swedish territory just like all the other land you lost. Btw isn't the land you lost in Sweden bigger than the actual Denmark of today?
Colton Sullivan
It is. And we still manage to be better off economically than the entirety of Sweden today.
Jason Taylor
greetings my fellow boat people
Nolan Morales
Yeah it's like when comparing a city to the countryside, the city always does better economically, and since Denmark is just one big city...
Christopher Nguyen
>Scandis fighting each other
embarrassing
Tyler Green
Ja tänne ei ollut mitään järkeä perustaa siirtokuntia kun katsoo vähän sitä karttaa. Sinne Nevajoensuistoon oli vähän järkevämpään kun sieltä pääsee suoraan keski-venäjälle ja kreikkaan. Mihin nää Suomen joet menee? Helpompi mennä suoraan merestä Nevalle ja Laatokkaan
Ja yhtälailla ne oli kaikki itämerensuomalaisia jotka siellä oli. Kun ei suomalaisia nykyisessä muodossa ollut
Aaron Ross
Please, we've been fighting for longer than America has existed.
Carson Fisher
even we had to make peace with the britbitch limeys
Alexander Lopez
>implygning we didn't get absolutely blown the fuck out
It was a good run, sure, but some countries aren't meant to be great powers.
Andrew Wilson
Kerroppa miksi Gröönlannissa oli siirtokunta mutta Suomessa ei. Ei taida liittyä kauppareitteihin se.
Ja yritä nyt tajuta että Slaavit olivat mukana toiminnassa Laatokalla.
Levi Green
We just have some business to sort out, we'll be done as soon as Denmark stops being uppity.
Carter Adams
>Kerroppa miksi Gröönlannissa oli siirtokunta mutta Suomessa ei.
Koska siellä ei juuri ollut vastarintaa? Viikingit ja niitä sitä ennen olleet kulttuurit olivat jo kauan aikaa tehneet kauppaa suomalaisten kanssa, jotka asuivat rannikolla, mutta koita ymmärtää ettei suomen alueiden valtaaminen ollut millään tapaa hyödyllistä.
Gröönlannista sai kuka tahansa lääniä itselleen.
>Ja yritä nyt tajuta että Slaavit olivat mukana toiminnassa Laatokalla.
Slaavit tuli laatokan alueelle vasti Novgorodin aikana paljon viikinkiajan jälkeen.
Cameron Gutierrez
Ehei, viikingit ja niiden ryssät elivät samoissa kaupungeissa. Et näytä tajuavan paskaakaan siitä kuinka Venäjä sai alkunsa. Ryssät alistuivat ei niitä valloitettu.
Nathaniel Cruz
>Also we've always been the strongest nation of the Nordic countries.
>Swedes have always fought to the last Finn
Brandon Collins
>literally been in relations with arabs for over 1000 years
Cant make this shit up
Jackson Allen
the last swede too
everybody who went to war in my fathers village died on more than one occasion
Joshua Myers
When was that? The 15th century?
Julian Murphy
idk
15/1600s probably
Colton Torres
Yeah watch this
Joseph Edwards
probably not 15
but i don't remember
there was a sign i read it on