>What language are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Find people to train your language with!
Check the first few replies ITT for plenty of language resources as well as some nice image guides. /lang/ is currently short on those image guides, so if you can pitch in to help create one for a given language, don't hesitate to do so!
Previous thread:
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4chanint.wikia.com
duolingo.com
drive.google.com
fsi-languages.yojik.eu
memrise.com
lingvist.com
clozemaster.com
tatoeba.org
forvo.com
effectivelanguagelearning.com
lexicity.com
cosmogyros.tumblr.com
dliflc.edu
en.childrenslibrary.org
hellotalk.com
italki.com
mylanguageexchange.com
interpals.net
gospeaky.net
speaky.com
polyglotclub.com
lang-8.com
goethe-verlag.com
languagetransfer.org
babadum.com
context.reverso.net
i.imgur.com
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gregreflects.blogspot.de
duolingo.com
twitter.com
>Language learning resources:
4chanint.wikia.com
duolingo.com
>Duolingo is a free language-learning platform that includes a language-learning website and app, as well as a digital language proficiency assessment exam. Duolingo offers all its language courses free of charge.
>Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30+ languages.
drive.google.com
>Google Drive folder with books for all kinds of languages.
fsi-languages.yojik.eu
>Drill based courses with text and audio.The Foreign Service Institute (FSI) is the United States federal government's primary training institution for employees of the U.S. foreign affairs community.These courses are all in public domain and free to download.Site may go down sometimes but you can search for fsi on google and easily find a mirror.
memrise.com
>Free resource to learn vocabulary, nice flash cards.
lingvist.com
>It's kinda like Clozemaster in the sense that you get a sentence and have to fill in the missing word, also has nice statistics about your progress, grammar tips and more information about a word (noun gender, verb aspects for Russian, etc.)
ankisrs.net/
>A flash card program
clozemaster.com
>Clozemaster is language learning gamification through mass exposure to vocabulary in context.Can be a great supplementary tool, not recommended for absolute beginners.
tatoeba.org
>Tatoeba is a collection of sentences and translations with over 300 hundred languages to chose from.
radio.garden/
>Listen to radio all around the world through an interactive globe
forvo.com
>Has pronunciation for lots of words in lots of languages
effectivelanguagelearning.com
>Check out information about languages and their difficulties
lexicity.com
>An invaluable resource for comparative language study as well as those interested in ancient languages
cosmogyros.tumblr.com
>A very extensive language learning collection for 90+ languages.
dliflc.edu
>Similar to FSI, drill-based courses with text and audio issued by the US government.These courses were made for millitary personel in mind unlike FSI.
en.childrenslibrary.org
>Lots of childrens books in various languages, categories 3-5yo, 6-9yo, 10-13yo.
hellotalk.com
>The app is basically whatsapp, but only connects you with people who are native in the language you are trying to learn. It also has a facebook type section where you can share pics and stuff too.
italki.com
mylanguageexchange.com
interpals.net
gospeaky.net
speaky.com
polyglotclub.com
lang-8.com
>Few more language exchange communities like Hellotalk:
goethe-verlag.com
>A mostly free site which offers audio and drill like exercises for 40+ languages.
languagetransfer.org
>A free resource with recordings to learn a language.
babadum.com
>Flash card game with a focus on vocabulary.
context.reverso.net
>A website like Tatoeba (also has a Firefox extension!)
LANGUAGE-SPECIFIC IMAGE GUIDES/WALKTHROUGHS:
>Arabic
i.imgur.com
>Farsi
i.imgur.com
>Finnish
i.imgur.com
>French
i.imgur.com
>German
i.imgur.com
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>Japanese
i.imgur.com
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>Mandarin (traditional characters)
i.imgur.com
>Russian
i.imgur.com
>Spanish
i.imgur.com
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>Swedish
i.imgur.com
>Turkish
i.imgur.com
I want to learn over 10 languages but due to that I will none of them ever learn
>I will none of them ever learn
was that on purpose?
Sorry there's been a foreign exchange student from germany and I tried conversing with German
Just start learning one language at a time, maaaybe two if you're comfortable with it. Just go for it, see where you end up.
That's the other problem. By the time I start to feel confident in another language I just go to a different one and lose progress in the first (german)
Tried speaking a bit of Spanish today to some workers, they were so happy and one is learning English but I really didn't do very well. I hope it gets easier.
/blog post
I dıd too! Kında
It was Turkish and they didn't speak it and were Mexican and it was on accident since I was really caught up in my studies before they came in. Felt really silly for awhile after but on the plus side I think I formed a coherent sentence.
I was wondering when the new /lang/ would pop up
We let the other one die too early
Nice, I've yet to speak Russian face-to-face with anyone. Just the thought is making me anxious.
theres a latina qt at work but im gonna espagueti all over myself if i try to talk to her, what do
good job user
keep in mind that they might start gradually increasing the speed at which they speak when you talk to them for more than a few minutes (without even realizing it), which can be a problem. That's what happened to me with an Uruguayan lady I used to work with very briefly quite a while ago. She would start pretty clearly, but then the more we spoke, the more incomprehensible it became, so don't be shy to just ask "puede repetir mas lentamente por favor?"
Try it anyway
How do you stay motivated? Learning Japanese has seriously made me question my own intellect, it feels like I'm making zero progress no matter how hard I work.
I've been learning some Ukrainian.
Very nice. I've been telling my uber eats drivers (all Spanish speaking) to have a nice afternoon: que tenga buenas tardes.
I get scared talking to people in English, let alone Spanish. But we just have to push through.
My Spanish is still terrible, I'm only two months in and people seem extremely pleased when I attempt to speak with them. Spanish people are apparently the complete opposite of the french. We have it on easy-mode finding people willing to chat with.
Sí, gracias. Yo digo "puede hablar un poco más despacio por favor?" or repetir is más mejor desu.
I'm guessing you're of Ukrainian descent? How are you finding it?
Making a habit/routine out of your studying is VERY important. Especially if you're a very routine-oriented person. I myself am like that (for example, at my old job I was free to arrive and leave whenever I wanted provided I did a certain number of hours per week, and yet I ended up doing the exact same schedule every single day down to the very minute, without any exceptions), and so it was important for me right from day one to establish a routine.
Otherwise, try to keep in mind that you still have plenty of really neat things to learn, you just have to keep going forward.
Another thing which could help is media/culture. Keep watching your favorite chinese cartoons, and pay special attention to the language and to how much you like it (or, if not animu, then music, movies, or anything else).
>at my old job I was free to arrive and leave whenever I wanted provided I did a certain number of hours per week, and yet I ended up doing the exact same schedule every single day down to the very minute, without any exceptions
And you say your autism is figurative, not literal
In my defense I took the bus to get to work, so that obviously influenced the whole "down to the minute" part.
I'm not of Ukrainian descent, but I do live near lots of Ukrainian speakers. I'm also very interested in Ukraine's culture and history. I've gotten used to the alphabet and am learning the basic vocabulary. Ukrainian is quite a beautiful language.
I have this autism as well. It's an advantage in certain things, such as learning. Nice quints by the way.
It's also an advantage in that did his job well. I had a part-time job with a chill boss who said the same thing to me, "come whenever", but I have no discipline and I just got fired.
And thanks. I took a screenshot for future reference.
I typed that a bit too fast, and I'm not sure if it's really clear: I did not come in enough at all, hence why I got fired
For those of you using Duolingo what do you normally prioritize? Learning new skills or strengthening old ones? If you have a set amount of XP you shoot for every day how do you normally split it?
>It's also an advantage in that (You) did his job well
Generally yes, but there was a couple of instances where I could have stayed longer to fix something or another (and then left earlier the next day for example), but I didn't want to break my schedule so I just left it until the next day, which wasn't ideal.
Luckily my boss was understanding (though he would constantly banter me because of my rigid routine/schedule).
I try to balance it with the other tools I'm learning, like try to pace the lessons so they come about when I'm learning it in Pimsleur or Michel Thomas.
Learning new ones
This blogpost I found on the Duolingo forums
gregreflects.blogspot.de
suggests it's best to do more strenghtening than new skills, in order to keep the tree golden. I try to do 3-4 old + 2 new.
That is really helpful actually, thanks! I was worried that Duolingo didn't know when I was mousing over words and having trouble with them. Makes me feel a little better.
didn't study today
feel like a piece of shit
You still have two hours left in the day, get on it.
You're right. Will make some coffee and do some stuff.
>that reaction
kek
Please translate autistic leaf friend
>You can ignore/skip words in the memrise app
Suddenly I feel like giving this a try again for building vocab, now that I don't have to learn things I don't feel like needing yet.
>inb4 I end up in a conversation about militaries and will be at a loss of words in Iran
Translation for those that don't speak that?
Forgot pic related
I don't speak Russian so you'll have to ask someone else if you want a complete reliable translation, but based on the little I do know (and with the help of Wiktionary), it's basically something like "what does this research prove? Mari are the most Turkic people?? what country are you from?????? answer me", and I have no clue what that last word means, I presume it's some sort of insult or pejorative term
I put that last word into google and it came back as a misspelling of the russian word for discuss. So maybe he just really likes this kind of research
Yeah it's always puzzling when courses include that sort of vocabulary at the beginning, and even more so when they include words which you aren't even sure what they mean in English (like "philology"). But personally I still learn them rather than ignore them. I figure I might as well, if I continue long enough I'll have to learn them eventually, so why not just include it now, it's not like it really has that much of an impact either way.
Why it is so hard to learn non-romance languages
>I have no clue what that last word means, I presume it's some sort of insult or pejorative term
I'd like to know as well, because I think it could either be an insult, or mean "we will discuss (it)"
пo + диcкycиpy + eм
perfective prefixe + something which looks like "discussion" + 1st person plural ending
Hopefully a Russanon will chime in
because they're different than what you're used to?
i know what's the reason you silly amerilard, i'm just being a whiny bitch
>So maybe he just really likes this kind of research
>"we will discuss (it)"
It would quite funny if he really was genuinely curious rather than angry, seeing as his message comes as being extremely butthurt.
He could be an assblasted professor of Mari literature with a burning hatred for Turks but a deep love of civilized discussion.
пoдиcкyтиpyeм* :^)
зaхoди пoчaщe в тг.
I guess it's one of those things which we might very well never find out for sure.
We are perhaps doomed to forever remain puzzled by the true intentions of Evgeni Ivanov.
нaпишy этoт paccкaз и пpидy :x
so what does it mean?
Never knew language learning could be so frustrating.
Tried to form a few of my own sentences in German and they were utterly wrong.
>we will discuss
like let's talk
Don't worry, it's part of the process, and ultimately the best way to learn
Keep in mind that eventually you will actually succeed.
thank you
It still seems like a bit of an angry message. No-one is that eager... "WHAT COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM???? LET'S TALK!"
(bump)
I know that feeling, I want to learn it. But when it cmes to the declension cases I start to lurch. I mean, I can tell the differences between them, but to memorise all the words, to use them properly, it always gets me off.
It's frustrating to be sure. I can understand sentences provided I know the vocab for the most part, but I'm really lost when it comes to structuring my own. There's so much to keep in mind, it really mindfloods me.
It feels like there's such a larger barrier to entry in it compared to when I was learning Spanish.
I have the same problem, I thnk the ony way is practising and try to master it while time elapses. Do you have any friend who speaks german?
I talk with an Austrian girl on Tandem, but I honestly don't think I could put her through my awful German in conversation, it'd be frustrating for both parties at this point in time.
Though I do sometimes ask her to correct sentences for me, which is handy enough.
well, I something that works for me and I haven't tried with german is reading a lot about things that i'm interested in, no matter whether I fathom al the text or not. At the beginning I don't really understand that much, but with time my level gets better and better. I try to analyse and focus on the patrons of the sentences and repeat them in my head. I also write a lot, it helps to clarify some ideas and to get familiar with the language. Idk why, but it helps me to improve.
I really should read more German I think. For a while I was trying to primarily read my news in it, though I've been slowing down lately because I've gotten a bit busier and it obviously takes longer to get through each story.
As for writing, what do you write about? Do you talk to other people, or just try and translate sentences?
I write about anything, that is experiences, stories, articles, tales and so on. Honestly many of those texts (at the beginning) have mistakes (horrible mistakes), when I re-read them I try to correct them myself. I also try to write short texts (5-10 lines) and ask for corrections. But if you are struggling with sentences order, you should follow a grammar books. I recommend the ones of gogle drive (everyday german, I guess), it helped me alot with french (everyday french)
any guide to learn russian cursive?
just use youtube and google templates for practicing
>French
>i.imgur.com
Duolingo and lingvist are both starting to become a slog. With duolingo everything is "decaying" faster than I can learn and lingvist words are starting to not stick. What do?
just take a couple of days (more, if necessary) to just review what you know rather than learn new things
the link might interest you
You don't need to keep your Duolingo tree completely golden, lots of mine are decayed. I just go back to whatever I'm struggling with.
Lingvist you might just need to slow down on. Maybe make some actual flashcards of the words you are stuck on and study them outside of the computer.
bump
About to take an introductory language class at my university, what should I expect? It's farsi btw.
Wew didn't mean to reply
except it to be slow
Remember, even if the class is only a couple times a week, it's still important to study every single day.
>and ultimately the best way to learn
Objectively incorrect, output does not improve comprehension. The only way we learn how to create natural sentences and communicate in a fluent manner is my massive amounts of comprehensive input. That is, reading and listening.
Output as a beginner is a complete waste of time aside from ego fulfillment related purposes.
I was talking more about the mistakes rather than the method, i.e. how it's easier to remember something when you make a mistake.
>tfw not C2 in all languages
>one bonus skill not accessible anymore
>finished one of the two skills yet it's at zero
>the link to the skill itself is not working anymore also (duolingo.com
is that the turkish tree?
so are we back to the ways of "the thread dies before reaching 85 posts"?
it's been active this summer, at least comparingly
on another note,
how awful is this translation?
Nuevas habladurias de fichaje llegan de Inglaterra, despues de noticias en la presa francés que alegaron que Mbappe y Fabinho también se fueran a ir a PSG de Monaco, que ya habia perdido unas estrellas del equipo ganador del ano pasado como Mendy, Bernardo Silva y Bakayoko
Looks like it
It's still working for me, did yours come back?
Yes
No
That's odd, is there an option to repurchase it? The bonus skills seem kind of buggy to me. I stumbled my way through the big family skill only once and got nearly everything wrong the first time but it's stayed golden ever since. I think it was two weeks ago
...
>tfw just want to be C2 in French, C1 in Mandarin, and at least B2 in all my other languages
>tfw barely B2 in French and A1/A2 in everything else
JUST
>Just made it through 10% of my jap vocab core 10k anki cards after ~3 months.
The core vocab deck has my increased my progress 10x, since I have enough time to do an hour a day instead of needing 4-6 for textbook work, which is almost impossible during the Uni semester. Ill just have to catch up with more of the textbook grammar at after this semester, but it's way better than having to come to a dead stop whenever Uni starts.
I'm here a lot. I could shitpost more but it's a fine line between getting more activity versus keeping the quality high. I try to only make valuable posts.
Haven't seen this chart before, very cool. My level varies by category. I'm A1 for listening, A2 for the rest. I guess that's maybe just the nature of Spanish being a language that is spoken pretty quickly.
>10k
fuck that's a daunting number. I'm trying to get 1100 words right now and seems to be taking a long time.
Is German more useful than French?
Depends. I for sure spend more time talking to Germans than French people.
Which languages have the most complicated grammar?
>latin
Depends on what you want.
If you want to read literature or culture, I'd advise french.
If you want to learn a job or do anything useful, I'd advise german.
>t. german speaking frog
Latin is not that hard to read and comprehend.
If you want to produce correct latin, that's another story.
I already have a good job.
Mainly for holidays, food and cool city breaks
The word пoдиcкycиpyeм (a mistake from пoдиcкyтиpyeм) is funny in itself because it is deliberately a high register, scholarly word ("let us discuss") framed as an informal one, down to context and the use of the prefix "пo-" to make it completely analogous to "пoгoвopим". In fact, it's essentially a stand-in for the expected neutral "пoгoвopим". It's a stylistic device to soften threatening speech, to add a little irony, perhaps.
There's a typo as well. He typed "этoм" instead of "этим".
I have a Turkish question. I've been trying out Pimsleur and they've been using "bizde" and "sizde" to mean "our place" and "your place" respectively. But don't those just mean "us too" and "you too"? Like "bizde iyiyiz" is "we are fine too". They'll say things like "bizde çay içerim" (this also seems like a typo, wouldn't it be içeriz?) to mean "let's drink tea at our place"
Really wouldn't that just mean "we also drink tea"?
Is there any language without a fatal flaw?
Chinese -Awful people and country.
Russian -Ugly language, shit hole of a country.
Italian- French is more useful.
French - Spanish has more resources. Also you sound like a faggot speaking it.
Spanish - Only useful because of latin america.
German - Ugly language. Most educated germans speak English.
Turkish.- No historical literature because of arabic and ottoman turkish.
Arabic - Stupidly hard, no resources, dialects. Also a shithole.
HIndi. - Too much English influence, English is the lingua franca of India, not hindi.
Farsi - Heavily idiomatic speech, taarof, autism cannot handle that shit.
Japanese - Useless weeb language.
etc
English
Both areas are overrun by sand people.
Culture and History are great in both countries.
Food is better in France.
In both countries, you may be treated like shit if you at least don't make the effort to speak a little of the language.
You're mistaking the language for its users and the country.
If your only remark concerning German or Russian is that "it's ugly", please stay nekulturny and leave the fun for the big boys.
Ah yes, the antithesis to phonetic spelling.
>Russian - ugly language
dumb post
>Chinese -Awful people and country.
RIP manadrinbro.
Bizde and bizde are visually indentical but mean very different things. One equates to "at ours" or "at us" and the other is "we also," de meaning also or too.
Common small talk is:
>Merhaba, nasılsın?
>Iyiyim, ya sen?
>Ben de (I'm also) iyiyim
For the second part, are you sure it wasn't içelim? The 'lim' suffix translates roughly to "let's."