Thank you, Russia and UK, for saving us from Napoleons tyranny

Thank you, Russia and UK, for saving us from Napoleons tyranny

We could have had god tier food and culture if only he won

No, we couldn't. Napoleon just wanted to rape Europe and take its money.

Napoleon was the greatest man in European history

You would just have been his slaves like everyone else

It was literally proto EU, don't think that Germans of all people should be glad he lost.

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Napoleon betrayed the revolution and became a corrupted monarch, like the ones French revolutionaries have fought.

Just let my army cross your country so we can take Portugal

I don't remember the EU stealing tons of our statues and paintings to bring them in Brussells
Even worse than them, since the monarchs of the ancien regime were absolute in name only and actually had lots of checks to their power

>betrayed the revolution
he enlighted it

>A failed emperor and war leader, that lost everything and everyone, brought his country into ruin and ended his life in exile on a god-forsaken island in the middle of nowhere.
Yeah, seems about right for a Polish hero.

Post good times with The Emperor

Different time, but the idea is the same: united Europe. Isn't it the thing that europeans wanted for centuries?

Napoleon was no different than any other European leader by the time. Maybe even tiny bit less evil.

>god tier food and cultur
>fr*nce
german filth isn't any better though. both of you should have been wiped out

EU is founded on the principles of peace, democracy, friendship of peoples and voluntary cooperation.
What Napoleon wanted was to rule like Caesar

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>Isn't it the thing that europeans wanted for centuries?
Fuck no, europeans always wanted to subjugate other countries, not give away their power to some federal entity located in fucking Belgium of all places

>europeans always wanted to subjugate other countries
Too bad you have the Unsubjugatotron Supreme to your east. Always fucked you in the ass.

by establishing a crony monarchy and putting his brother on Spanish throne?
I didn't know French Revolution stands for cronyism

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is this the daily anti-french thread

That's the problem. He carried the ideas of enlightenment, of a new era, yet he betrayed those ideas and became just another absolutism monarch

>Always fucked you in the ass
Russia was a non-entity for European politics until the late XVIII century, European history of trying to subjugate each other dates a bit earlier than that

yeah we all understand your puke shit of language

>Unsubjugatotron Supreme to your east
where "'people"' live in dirt and poverty. russian scum is a born human shield for its Masters

That's because you cannot build a society starting from abstract philosophical principles, it will always devolve into tyranny of the worst kind and ultimately become the opposite of what you set out to do

LOL

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>abolish feudalism and serfdom
>enforce the civil code instead which is still the base of many legal systems.
>No different from any other European leader

Honestly, Napoleon did many mistakes but in regards of avancement of the Law, he was clearly ahead of the others monarchs.

>long military campaign in russia
they never learn

USA begs to differ

Consider suicide senpai

but Napoleon earned it by his own skills, not because he was well birth, he knew more and cared more about europeans than those retarded inbred monarchs.

Not so anti-French desu
Napoleon did a great work for unification of Germany, if it wasn't for him Germans would have stayed myriads of tiny princedoms

here did uk come here? russia and germany defeated napoleon at leipzig and sent him to exile, the only thing brits did it is they defeated him after he fled from exile and was a non threat, their waterloo saved nobody and was just a backstab of the greatly weakened france

>Tyranny
It was fucking heaven

>burn, flee and hide
>m-m-muh strong russia
kek

your whorish dumb mother will get cancer and will be suffering from unbearable pain till her last day

The USA constitution did not make up new values or a new society, it was merely a formalization of what the colonists already believed and practiced. And besides, the USA of today are quite different from what they envisioned
Serfdom in France was abolished about 500 years prior to Napoleon

Even Napoleonic France begs to differ :). Napoleon was no saint, but what France had before him was way worse.

>cared more about europeans
By driving them to slaughter by the millions for his insane ambitions and power hunger? What a guy.

I didn't know that conquering, looting, taxing and conscripting counted as caring

>Have an expeditionary force bigger than the entire Russian army
>Lose everything
>B-but they fight unfair, muh Grande Armee

did you said it hided on your hole while your houses were burnin ?

It's funny how one historical figure can be perceived differently, depending on where we live. In Poland he is considered a positive character (he doesn't totaly deserve it but still).

who cares? russia is a poor undeveloped third world shithole ruled by a dictator and his cronies these days, while france is a quite wealthy first world country with hundreds of millions worshippers around the world
>muh refugees
russia has like three times more muslims percentage wise, and they also commit a lot of crimes and terror attacks

didn't we killed the HRE though? that's not really unifying the germans

did you ever see how shit was Italy ? after Napoleonic wars Italy became relevant.

Do you know where the word 'bistro' comes from, Pierre?

he wanted to take poland from russia and give it at least a half-independence

My point is that George Washington could have easily declared himself King of America, yet he didn't do it. Kemal Atatürk, aswell, could have easily declared himself the Sultan of Turkey, yet he didn't do it either. Both were followers of the ideas of Enlightenment, and both, at their peak, didn't succumb to the corruption of power.
Napoleon, on the other hand, betrayed everything the Enlightenment stood for, declared himself Emperor, and made his brother the King of Spain. Instead of meritocracy, he want back to crony monarchy.

So did the forefathers of the monarchs who came before him. In the end, he was no different than them

>after Napoleonic wars Italy became relevant
You mean, it became an Austrian puppet until it became a French puppet and then an Anglo puppet from which people had to emigrate in the millions? Boy, I'm sure glad Napoleon made us relevant, it was worth being looted and having to go through a bunch of civil wars!

HRE killed itself, but you did a lot of work to make that necessary.

it doesn't come from what you think as the very first bistrot opened in 1884, nearly 70 years after Paris battle

it comes from the poitevin "bistraud" which means "wine seller/merchant"

That was the deal. I have my reservations regarding if he would respect the deal after.

>burn whole of Moscow
>too much of a pussy to pull out a fight with the fucking FRENCH
lmao at you

Oh, yeah, true.

good old subservient germans :D

I think that George Washington didn't do that because he lived in a society that had those ideals at its heart and betraying them was simply unthinkable for someone from that background, whereas in Europe those ideals were only believed by a bunch of intellectuals and people didn't really care if the one commanding them was an elected president or a monarch

It's more complicated than that.

in 1789, didn't wanted a republic. They just wanted a more just system and have enough to eat. In 1791 the absolute monarchy turned into a constitutionnal one.

But it turned into completely shit in 1792 because of the others european power. The first republic was a fucking mess, civil war, republican tyranny, terror (literally) and a complete war against all of europe.

What do you think happend in this context ? People just want to eat and live in a stable environnement. When a man allow a victory against european monarchy and stabilize the country, they don't care if this man crown himself emperor.

French empire was in a way what french wanted at the start of the revolution : a more just system than the "ancien regime" and a stable system.

Crowning his family was a mistake, but what can you do when europe constantly declare war against you ? He naively thought europe will be at peace if every nation was ruled by the same family.

>just system
>JUST
someone must do a JUST photoshoped Napoleon

napoopan was shit and so are the french and france
good thing it's becoming algeria

- the naval blockade which strangled French trade and forced Napoleon to establish the Continental System which is what led to the downhill of his Empire (forced him to invade Russia)

- Peninsular War, tied up a great deal of French resources which then couldn't be used against Russia

- funding the coalitions, including a great deal of weapons and money to Russia when she was being invaded

Waterloo wasn't a massive deal, France had already lost by then, all Waterloo did was end it all sooner.

>AIDStugal

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>tfw the battle of Austerlitz happened like 10 kilometres away from my home

>tfw the battle of Austerlitz happened like 10 kilometres away from my home
Ever find any artifacts? People that live near battle sites here can find cannon and musket balls.

10 km away from the 2nd biggest city in Czechia, everything should be gone by now

we got a streak of 3 dubs in a row dude

this tbqh