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Check the first few replies ITT for plenty of language resources as well as some nice image guides. /lang/ is currently short on those image guides, so if you can pitch in to help create one for a given language, don't hesitate to do so!
duolingo.com/ >Duolingo is a free language-learning platform that includes a language-learning website and app, as well as a digital language proficiency assessment exam. Duolingo offers all its language courses free of charge.
>Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30+ languages.
fsi-languages.yojik.eu/languages/oldfsi/index.html >Drill based courses with text and audio.The Foreign Service Institute (FSI) is the United States federal government's primary training institution for employees of the U.S. foreign affairs community.These courses are all in public domain and free to download.Site may go down sometimes but you can search for fsi on google and easily find a mirror.
memrise.com/ >Free resource to learn vocabulary, nice flash cards.
lingvist.com/ >It's kinda like Clozemaster in the sense that you get a sentence and have to fill in the missing word, also has nice statistics about your progress, grammar tips and more information about a word (noun gender, verb aspects for Russian, etc.)
ankisrs.net/ >A flash card program
clozemaster.com/languages >Clozemaster is language learning gamification through mass exposure to vocabulary in context.Can be a great supplementary tool, not recommended for absolute beginners.
tatoeba.org/eng/ >Tatoeba is a collection of sentences and translations with over 300 hundred languages to chose from.
radio.garden/ >Listen to radio all around the world through an interactive globe
forvo.com >Has pronunciation for lots of words in lots of languages
dliflc.edu/resources/products/ >Similar to FSI, drill-based courses with text and audio issued by the US government.These courses were made for millitary personel in mind unlike FSI.
en.childrenslibrary.org >Lots of childrens books in various languages, categories 3-5yo, 6-9yo, 10-13yo.
hellotalk.com/#en >The app is basically whatsapp, but only connects you with people who are native in the language you are trying to learn. It also has a facebook type section where you can share pics and stuff too.
>finish Pimsleur lesson >it's difficult and don't feel like I really got it all >end of lesson the speaker reminds me that Pimsleur works best in succession every day >don't know if I should continue or repeat, not clear on how well I should know each lesson I mean I can keep going but I feel like if my foundation isn't completely solid it might fall apart in later lessons. I'm partially way through Spanish II Pimsleur. So three more to go after this set of 30.
Gavin Cook
If I feel like I didn't get the Pimsleur lesson I just did, I continue with 1 more lesson or switch off to Duolingo, studying from a book etc. But the next day I go back and repeat the one I was screwing up
It helps to give your mind some time instead of immediately repeating content you didn't understand, do it the next day
Thomas Cox
>that bit in Pimsleur where the bloke keeps keeps asking the woman to go for a drink with him at different times >she keeps saying no
they say you should know about 80% IIRC
Dylan Davis
How can i change keyboard language if i want to do Duolingo lessons on my phone?
Adrian Roberts
Thank you. I'm just worried if I end up not doing them often enough two things will happen: 1) The spaced repetition will not be as good because I'll have spaced out lessons too much 2) It will take me ten months to a year to complete and I won't have made enough progress in a reasonable amount of time. I mean 150 lessons, if I only progress every other day is 300 days. I do other stuff too like Duolingo and Michel Thomas...
kek. Yeah. "I'm sorry I don't have time now" "what about later?" "oh no I can't later"
On iPhones you can do it under General > Keyboards .. where you add the keyboard you want. Then you can tap the globe to switch between them, or it automatically switches most of the time.
Luke Bailey
>they say you should know about 80% IIRC I have a hard time gauging where that 80% is. Sometimes I can get maybe 90% of it, but it takes me a while. Like I have to pause it. They don't give very much time to respond. Michel Thomas is much more practical about that.
Luis Roberts
Pimsleur is literally the best program for actually speaking. If you cap off finishing it with a trip to wherever speaks whatever you're learning you will be able to communicate thoroughly.
Did the Norwegian one and was able to do basically everything there in Norwegian without reverting to English
Aiden Wilson
That's comforting, thank you. I'm worried I'm not learning it that well. I can do the lessons, but when I try to speak to a native I stumble a lot. I'm hoping it clicks more.
How long did it take you to do the whole program?
Ethan Walker
>Like I have to pause it. Yeah I have the same problem, they talk quite quickly as well
Anthony Rogers
Somethings from early early lessons I know so well I can spit it out in time, I'm hoping it gets to be that way for this current more complicated stuff.
Angel Harris
Anyone know of a good German / Russian crash course resource? I've studied both for years but have been lazy recently and would like a quick refresher before I take a language test next week
Kayden Adams
If its android go into system and then find language settings, add whatever language you want and you can swap the keyboard by swiping the space bar
Jace Wood
2-3 months? In addition to doing other things. Norwegian only has two sets and itself is probably one of the simplest languages there are so it depends on what you're doing.
Brandon Howard
what level are you talking about? Duolingo is absolutely frustrating if you already have a significant background in it
For an actual test I would recommend a grammar book and to just grab a dictionary and go read Der Spiegel. As for textbooks the one I use is about thirty years out of print so I can't really suggest anything
Chase Rodriguez
If you're familiar with the 1-5 scale, I listed myself as a 2 in German and a 3 in Russian. I'm pretty confident I'll do fine in Russian, but I grew up speaking German with family, so while I have a decent grasp on it I 1) never had a formal education in it (so my grammar is poor) and 2) haven't spoken in a few years since moving out
Ryan Diaz
>Only a course creator can change test direction in memrise Why would they do this
Christopher Rivera
So i wanted to learn french for its reputation of translating literally everything from everywhere but i can't stand ridiculous differences between writing and spelling words. I absolutely hate it. What do? Are there any other alternatives? Which languages can provide a great source of philosophy amd more important political literature?
Luke Taylor
In my mind french sound so beautiful if i read it like spanish, english or latin. But no lets fucking sound like ridiculously edgy faggits REEEEEEE
Jonathan Richardson
This is why we here in French-Canadiana think it's atrocious what the French are doing to the language, intentionally mispronouncing words to sound ''posh''.
Cooper Garcia
Going to the foreign language club at my university tonight. There probably won't be anyone who speaks the language I'm learning (Korean), but oh well.
Hudson Watson
Pleb. If I hear you read French like English, I'll smack you.
You get used to the orthography through exposure. If you really want to give up, well then,
>Which languages can provide a great source of philosophy amd more important political literature?
German. Don't come back in a month, saying "oh the grammar is so rigid, why are they such autists, any alternatives?"
Jackson Bell
Latin, Ancient Greek, German.
Jose Anderson
>but I grew up speaking German with family
German born? Or are you from North Dakota or something? Not familiar with the 1-5, but I can understand what you're getting at
I'd still stick by my suggestion but if you feel that poor in grammar than you should focus on going through a textbook, maybe duolingo or something. If you're comfortable with Russian then I'll assume you're perfectly fine with playing around with cases and tenses and stuff. I remember using a Deutsch Heute book for basic German if you want to look for that; it's pretty gay though
Lincoln Adams
this German is superior to French in philosophy, theology, and politics while lending itself to translating into English relatively poorly as compared to French (from my experience). It's not that difficult to get your foot in the door, but getting to a level of actually reading philosophy will take several years of pretty active studying
Nathan Rivera
Jesus i am retarded. Yes ,german!
>Muh german is hard because of 4 cases. I don't worry my language have 7 of them.
Oliver Morales
Yes but we are turboautists with syntax that is not nearly as flexible as Slavic languages.
Lucas Carter
I don't get why people focus on case/gender in German so much, the grammar is pretty straightforward. I just find that it has a lot of complex vocabulary that is regularly used as compared to say, a Scandinavian language
Cameron Barnes
Ah okay, that makes sense. Thanks for the feedback, makes me feel better about my progress.
Tyler Rogers
If I love anything about language learning it is syntax. I meddles with polish so it won't be that hard. But I've seen what it looks like when you try to read Hegels Phenomenology of spirit so I respect it.
Anyway , thank you. No offense bit I kinda avoided german cause it is possible to be replaced with arabian in few decades but what do I care. I want it for literature , not for living there.
Alexander Wright
>I don't get why people focus on case/gender in German so much I think it's mostly just anglophones who have never seen a noun having a gender or a noun being inflected for cases who do this.
Levi Sanchez
bump
Noah Wilson
>but i can't stand ridiculous differences between writing and spelling words. imo the spelling is more regular and has less exceptions than english.
Colton Ward
thread ded
Brandon Sullivan
Works been busy today, haven't had much time to bump the thread or practice my TL.
Anthony James
Want to learn Cantonese desu.
Carson Smith
In Duolingo >cкopee вceгo, идти нaдo нaпpaвo translates to >We probably have to go right
How is the subject inferred from the sentence? Couldn't it be "I/you/he/they have to go right"?
Dominic Long
The stricter translation would probably be "Probably, it's neccesary to go right"
Aiden Walker
>reading french like english Please, God, no.
Carson Carter
Cпacибo, в этoм ecть cмыcл
Angel Nguyen
Reminds me of Americans I saw in Mexico saying ''Two sir-vay-ces pour fe-vore'' to order beer. No wonder they're disliked as tourists.
Cooper Jackson
Task for tomorrow. Make picture showing all the... Prepositions? Not sure what they're called in English. Anyway, words like in/on/below/next to/opposite
Dylan Jenkins
Prepositions would be right. What language?
Ethan Brooks
Picture related, its what i'm gunna start off with tomorrow
Ryder King
Stay delusioned fag
Charles Roberts
haven't studied in like a week god i'm a sack of shit
Sebastian Carter
do a little now do it just review your vocab, anything
Jacob Morris
Кaк тeбя зoвyт apparently means "what's your name?", but wouldn't that be чтo вaш зoвyт? What tense is тeбя anyway?
Matthew Rodriguez
I think the literal translation is "How are you called" or something like that. Most languages other than English do "What are you called" or "How are you called" as opposed to "What is your name" in my experience.
Eli Sanders
No offense but you can easily find answers to your own questions by making a slight effort to find out for yourself.
I don't see how it's accusitive or genitive, but ok.
Josiah White
Because the proper translation isn't 'whats your name' its 'what do they call you' so you becomes the direct object. Similarly when you say My name is' you're really saying 'they call me' in Russian
Nathaniel Johnson
same, but after mandarin
Jaxon King
Adding to that Russian often uses this "object + 3pl verb" construction semantically identically to the English passive construction, so another way to translate that would be "what are you called".
Nicholas Wright
This has continuously been the only constructive thread on all of Sup Forums. Bravo.
Ryan Diaz
Russian, would love to be able to read Dostoyevsky in his original language
Christopher Sanders
Probably the only one on all of Sup Forums
Christian Wright
кaк тeбя зoвyт how are you called кaк вac зoвyт how art thou called
кaк твoe имя what is your name
i think вac/тeбя is in accusative there, like to blame whom? (the question to check for the accusative case) тeбя/вac to call whom? тeбя/вac
Nathan Cooper
>кaк тeбя зoвyт how are you called >кaк вac зoвyт how art thou called
sorry it's vice versa ofc, ты i.e. thou doesn't exist in english anymore
David Rogers
Hey DJT isn't that bad either and have created and maintained a lot more resources than /lang/ has.
Henry Brooks
are we using the classic use of thou (informal) or the current use of thou (formal) for this?
Ethan Reyes
historical informal thou like ты id informal in russia
Benjamin Price
Is there anywhere I can get the German Pimsleur-course for free? Finding free stuff on the internet is my Achilles heel. I'm learning with Duolingo primarily atm but I think I'm missing out on the speech-aspect, and I understand Pimsleur is good for that?
Jordan Robinson
Pirate bay should have it
Eli Diaz
pirate bay is down right now
Michael Evans
I looked there before posting but I didn't find anything because I spelled it wrong. I am not a clever guy. Yea also this.
Carter Butler
Sup /lang/ frequent lurker,
There is this app called Mango Lang, all you need is a library card and you can access whatever languages your library has available. Not sure if it works outside the US. >open app >go to 'Try it or sign up!' >choose Try Mango Now now or Sign Up >if you choose Try Mango Now, you can sample some of the courses >if you choose Sign Up, type in your zip code or city and choose whichever library offers Mango. It tells you how to go about creating an account let me know how it goes
Wyatt Long
might try this when i get a new phone next month
Alexander Wood
>2017+.66 >he's not on private trackers
Jace Ward
>Really want to learn a language >Might not be a homosexual after all
Matthew Campbell
German. we have Nietzsche which is all you should ever need philosophy wise
Aiden Clark
I'm starting my last course of Swedish Looking forward to being done with it
Landon Wood
Good luck Ahmed.
Matthew King
شكرا
Angel Green
Ethnicity?
Lucas Torres
I'm Spanish
Christopher Wood
t. I can't draw
Jack Jackson
I can't read these sandscribbles :( Whats written?
Jacob Hughes
>Parande dar qafas The bird in the cage
>ketab ruye miz The book on the table >Tup zir/payin miz The ball under the table >lampa balaye miz The lamp above the table
>sandali poste sar mard The chair behind the man >Gorbe kenare mard The cat next to the man >Khanom jeloye/rubaruye mard The woman in front of/opposite the man
Robert Butler
This is a good idea I can see some arabic loan words. I wonder if arab speakers can read iranian just like dutch speakers can read german even without learning it.
Jaxson Rogers
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Easton Smith
From what I've been told, they can mutually recognize a lot of words, but not really tell what the other's saying. They have completely different grammar, and aren't even related linguistically (unlike dutch and german). Farsi is a indo-european language, whereas Arabic is a semitic language.
Lincoln Mitchell
>the woman IN FRONT of the man
Absolutely haram
Carson Hill
Buena suerte amigo, ¿porque vives en Suecia?
Jaxson Wood
Are you fluent? Last course of what program?
Carter Bennett
Because I liked it and got a job I did Swedish For Immigrants and now I'm finishing the HS Swedish courses to be able to study in Swedish
Owen Diaz
Hard to find work in Spain, right? Some half of under 25 are unemployed or something ridiculous?
Luke Miller
>been studying German for about 2 months >Find Pimsleur - Swiss German >Eh, probably a good idea to learn that (since see flag) >Listen to the first mp3 >Exusie, ish de Herr Meyer doh? >With trilled r's
Man, what the fuck. This sucks.
Nathan Hughes
Yes although in my case it's more because I like living abroad
Colton Edwards
How long does it take to get to fluency using these guides?
Logan Johnson
Most of them are made by people still learning the language. Not sure which are made by people who were actually fluent in the language. But ultimately it depends on you and your study habits. The effective language learning link in the 2nd or 3rd post has a table with estimated classroom hours.
Jeremiah James
3 years
Cameron Ortiz
I've never herd of lingvist before. How does it compare to clozemaster?
Bentley Williams
Why are school language courses so shit?
I was forced to do 2 years of French at school with a native French teacher, yet nobody in the class was able to use French outside of a few basic canned phrases to write a letter (Hello, my name is _, what's your name? How are you? I am _...)
Headteacher even tried to stop us from referring to male and female classmates in the correct masculine and feminine on the grounds that it was sexist. Actual French teacher managed to win her over though.
James Sanchez
How long before SJWs get pissy at people for assuming objects genders?
Jayden Watson
Couldn't that be easily fixed by calling them some arbitrary thing? Like, idk type A and type B nouns?
Samuel Martinez
Kinda, but SJWs would just say that was putting a bandaid on the problem and then demand the entire grammar system be changed.