Why did the Roman Empire fall /pol/?
Why did the Roman Empire fall Sup Forums?
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Because they killed The Gladiator and they couldnt return Rome to the people
A combination of power diffusion, degeneracy, cultural change, Christianity, and weak leaders. Anyone who tells you it was for one reason alone is not smart.
Because they let in people who could not assimulate and inflation
Christianity and uncontrolled Mass Immigration
No one really knows, but whatever it was, the Jews were probably behind it somehow.
Fags, queers and homosexuals.
It slipped on a banana peel
Endless wars, degenerates, high standard of living = low birth rate.
it literally was solely Christianity tho
Christianity was the only thing that allowed them to hold on for so long you idiot.
poor leadership and politicians, the division of rome and turning it into east and west, a failing economy and the huns forcing mass migration from germania through rome
It became multicultural
kikes and miscegenation
the Sup Forums universal quote for why things fuck up
This is an interesting lecture on the matter and there can be drawn some interesting parralels to today.
it got sold to the highest bidder
well plague user, mostly. that and the golden age of Islam
they were all fucked up over lead poisoning
The jews made the romans crucify Jesus, and back then God was really a vengeful guy and not an apathetic cuck like he is today.
So it's the jews fault, as Sup Forums is a christian board you can't argue this.
Christians were the Muslims of today, their religion was incompatible with Roman culture.
They started relying on a foreign troops who could obviously turn against them. namely people of (((Germania)))
How did Christianity exacerbate it? Not denying it, but I want to know your reasons for that, since the others are all self-explanatory.
the romans went off to wars in far away lands while subhumans moved into rome
Because you touch yourself at night.
Thats the trickiest one imo and the one i am on the fence about. From what i understand Christianity helped subvert the staunch and prideful mentality of citizens into something more squishy and abstract. As a Christian, i wont say Christian Rome was weak, but imagine if the US or the entire western world was fundamentally upturned on a set of core values. It would keep its strength, but all its members would be aware of the fact that the rome they are allied to was built on values they now see as wrong. Christian Rome and the Republic are axiomatically at odds, no matter howmuch power and influence they shared.
are you staunch
or are you squishy
this is the question to ask yourselves, family. I ask you to ask yourself this tonight.
tfw i teach high school history and have gotten too much in the habit of using these words
They bring down every civilization, really
Self-destructive government officials. Far to many men who would rather the world burn of they couldn't hold there office.
Sounds oddly familiar.
I reckon homo haters are actually closet homos having an internal struggle against their homo desires
And 'islamophobes' secretly want to be muslim right?
People got spoiled by civilization. Same reason the West will fall.
What kept the US together up to now wouldn't have destroyed Rome. Whats destroying the US now is what destroyed Rome.
nice doom's day prophecy bud
It was the Huns and the other Germanic tribes you mong. And to think that it was the drought(?)/polar vortex(?) season that drove the Germanic tribes towards the Mediterranean to find food
but homophobia makes no sense. They aren't doing anything except rooting the same sex because they're attracted to it. Most people aren't homosexual so why the fuck does it matter that a portion of the population are homos.
It was absolutely normal part of Greek and Roman society before they became Christian.
Are you trying to imply not every civilization is destined to ultimately decline at one time or another? Enjoy your wishful thinking.
Rome was already declining before the Huns and Germanic tribes arrived.
There's a number of theories as to what led to the decline of Rome. I've read one theory backed by historians that in their Empire period they were essentially a pillaging economy and needed loot and slaves to grow and even sustain itself. They could only grow so much before they ended up in deficit because of maintaining and securing their territories. They slowly had to withdraw on themselves as they had no way to keep things going. And slowly got overrun with people from Northern Europe and finally the Huns
Peek decadence. The values that were tried and true were thrown out for bread and circuses. Even the Byzantines in the closing days were engaged in near constant petty civil wars while the sand people chipped away at their crumbling empire.
the people saying that modern italians aren't the same as the Romans are mostly Stormweenies using references from Nazi Germany when their race "scientists" were producing propaganda to say the upper echelon of Roman society were aryans
show me the historians that discuss decadence. How do you even quantify how decadent a society is?
Byzantium went into their 200 year period of civil war following the Fourth Crusade which pretty much burned every important part of Anatolia to the ground and brought in a void of squabbling factions. It had nothing to do with decadence.
tfw you will never march in testudo towards a Gallic barbarian horde as part of the III Legion of Gaul.
Why even live?
Thats fucking it, man. I'm killing myself tonight
3 generations of Christianity plus letting the kikes back in
you will never die valiantly defending your legions eagle as you are over run by vandals
Degeneracy is the cause of mass immigration of barbarians and Christianity
Rome lost because Germany had to start a war, like usual.
Need a new frame with ISIS all over France and Germany
Humans got bored and wanted to try something new. Why does anything humans do not last?
I'd rather be a Gallic barbarian myself.
picture is Greece I think
This. Also people focus on the decline ignoring they had a very good run.
If anyone has a long commute, the History of Rome Podcast is excellent :
The Christians ruined it for everyone.
man boy love
too much of it
Totally explains why the more Christian ERE survived the onslaught of the Sassanids and Mohammedans.
poor people in the cities.
They should have enslaved all the poor people
and used them accordingly and it wouldn't have
This lol. The ERE, which was far more Christian than the West, survived for a thousand years after the WRE survived. About 600 of those as a major power.
Christianity extended the Roman empire if anything.
duuur it was christianity
I'm just going to ignore the eastern half surviving for another 1000 years XD
Go read a book you dumb ameritards
Before Christianity the concept of patronage (as in, a wealthy Roman sponsoring public works and projects like roads or food services, etc) was common and depended on. It was a way to immortalize oneself (doing good works would grant you the privilege of placing a statue of yourself in your town center for example). After Christianity this was no longer as appealing, as now there were Christian ways to prepare for the afterlife and feel like a good person.
without a unifying identity degeneracy became the culture and eventually made rome weak enough to collapse.
i didnt know germanics were this stupid
you are applying stupid shit from today in a different era
Byzantine isn't real Rome
You're so beta, you can't even annex the country of niggers next door.
Your opinion is literally irrelevant.
many italians are germanics and mixed with them
in the south you can find some people that look like romans but not in the north
gee it's like history tends to repeat itself
germanics destroyed the rome empire
everyone know this
Those Germanic migrations happened very late into the Empire, pretty much as it crumbled
I'm not listening to people who cant afford books
why you germanics try so hard to convice yourselves that you didnt destroy the roman empire
every empire is multicultural but i dont expect a germanic to understand this
you mean your ancestor?
stop saying multiculturalism you fucking stupid pig
primary cause was the plague that hit them, kind of similar to how the Indians lost North America
and the eastern half got swamped with the huns too right?
Climate change. Literally. For all the faults of their decaying society, they could have limped along for another few centuries. But, the Roman Warming Period ended and the Dark Ages Cooling occurred so rapidly they went from growing olives on the banks of the Rhine to the hordes crossing the frozen river in the summer. To steal a modern quote, winter arrived.
and that plague was germanics and its funny because germanics was the plague that wiped out native americans
I'm not germanic I'm just correcting you on your third world education
this coupled with the plague
what are you then?
Well yeah. With any mass migration you get diseases you're population is unaccustomed to.
Good. It just means savage uncivilized nordics are warriors superior to meds who where having orgies in their brothels and watching gladiator fights.
Actually it was from long term lead poisoning. The vinegar and wine they drank, leached the lead out of the pottery they used.
Not at all.
Your cultures greatest achievement was being slaves of white people.
Your a flea trying to stand with lions.
Your opinion means nothing.
because of multiple defeats in the hands of the persians and after those the arab further defeated them. and the ottomans too coupled with a economic downturn
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nordics were one of the tribes of course
and before you spout off your memes about Iranians being Arab, read;
I know who you are, you're that memester DR flag that posts the same easily debunked memes in every thread about history and genetics. Read a book for once, nigger
atleast romans didnt want to exterminated me and years later im using all of the things they invented
t. arab in denial
cant formulate a complete sentence
You're still use technology your people didnt invent
in a culture your people didn't build
in a city your people couldnt engineer
in a country your people couldnt make
but we didn't exterminate you
Whites 0 Nigger 1
iranians arent even arabs. iran is made up of lots of ethnicities with the biggest being persian, azerbaijani, turkish, lurs, turkmen, arabs and balouch people. learn history you dirty pajeet
t. arab in denial
you dont make any sense, please stop
And Jews, obviously.
They were trying to create an EU superstate.
We voted to leave, and the Germans cucked them.
Then the whole thing collapsed and the muzzies tried to take over.
But by that time, the glorious Anglo Saxons had tried to sort shit out.
Thus a nation was born: THE UNITED KINGOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND.
We wuz kanz n sheeit.
Nordic just means of the north. Germanics were north compared to Romans. Some were Alpine and Borreby, but Germanic culture was generally the same as nordic culture. They had the same pantheon and spoke similar languages.
statement is a little moot. I mean, of course you're using things others invented, because your own ancestors invented nothing
These are the people that are over taking the west
We're all fucked
implying i'm germanic
lel my ancestors are sicilian nigga
go to your cave with peanut butter and chicken which were your ''brilliant'' inventions
I'm just happy this DR nigger learned to read and write, good on him
that's why God says not forgive even one enemy and purge everyone. if you go to war do it properly, not even the women, not even the children
this is their actual argument
Economic collapse was a main factor. Now if we take a look at who were running most of the banks it would be...no one. No. Stop looking. It is a pure coincidence you goyi...shit.
The problem in western Rome with homosexuality became so rampant the government offered huge tax breaks to any couple that had a child.
It wasn't enough.
The birthrate plummeted so low the conditions for citizenship were lowered (less time needed to be served in the legion etc)
This wasn't enough.
It got to the point that Rome began basically undergoing the modern western phenomenon of importing tons of "barbarians" (non Romans) to try and fill the economic and social void.
This, , combined with several other factors, chiefly the corruption of the Senate, religious and ideological upheaval, and (surprise surprise) runway inflation to combat the lack of infinite growth an empire needs (sound familiar? ) left it ripe for the plundering.
thread about Rome
better post a Greek temple in the OP
under estimating their rivals because of past superiority
This. By 400 AD, corruption and ambitious generals/senators had all but ripped West Rome apart, leaving it vulnerable to invasions from the north and west.
Not realizing that Rome didn't actually fall, but moved to Constantinople.
But Dominican Republic IS niggers why would they want to annex their brothas home
yep. the roman legal system prevailed - institutions lived on in the eastern roman empire - germanic tribes adopted Christianity and later the holy roman empire. the torch of western civilization stayed lit. western culture is the greatest the world has ever had because of Christianity and the longevity it provided to societies and institutions. todays euro-atheists threw the torch into the lake. Western Christendom pulled the entire world into the modern era, but only the pious can sustain themselves.