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yanks WILL defend this

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She is right. Freedom is not free.

She is not right*

She's right. Nobody has the right to healthcare, otherwise you would be giving people the right to enslave others. I don't know if you got the memo but we moved past that 150 years ago.

>(((Boskovich)))

Sup Forums is always right.

Stop trying to limit other people's freedom to ruin your life you dumb fascist.

>otherwise you would be giving people the right to enslave others
Love it.

Sup Forums is for faggots

I admire Americans for tolerating dedicated anti-freedom maniacs like her.

Thank you for your service

wh*Tes utterly btfo once again

Bretty gud :DDDDDD

Nice.

What seems to be the problem? The shooter had the same right to purchase firearms as those whom he shot have a right to purchase healthcare.

America's mental and physical health are beyond fucked so if they started free healthcare now America would bankrupt.

>bankrupt
In a world of fiat currency you cant bankrupt if you are the one who prints money.

But i agree that their heatlhcare system is absolutely fucked up and needs to be burned down in order to make a new one from ashes.

Maybe she should take a look at the constitution and find out GOP is indeed correct about it. Healthcare is not a right, bearing arms is.

It's alright, Antti. Brits can't vote.

butthurt communist

imagine being so fucking cucked that you WANT to pay more for healthcare because it's "not a right"

fucking amerimutts and their cocksuckers everybody

Someone pls global boker face this

why should you have to pay for the healthcare of others who are too lazy to work hard and get insurance

I don't, our system is flawed. True, it's technically his right to own all those weapons, maybe. I don't know what kind of weapon he used to mow down that crowd of people, but if he had his class 3 and got it legally, I can see why people are having problems. But if he just got that illegally somehow then well what are ya gonna do? And yeah I think free medical care should not be a privilege, its fucked up that it isn't. And I know this isn't the topic, but as far as the argument of "Damn them Americans are crazy with all there guns, they should just take em away ererrrerererr". It's just not that simple, there are just, SO many, it would be impossible to go door to door doing checking them off a list with absolutely no problems. There would be people that would give it up, no problems, but I find that the majority would have huge issues with it, and unfortunately, resort to violence. It's just gotten to the point where the government is kinda being held hostage to the situation at hand. Which, in a way, is what our forefathers wanted, they wanted a nation ruled by the people, and not by the government. I'm not pretending like I have a end all idea that could save our country, and I don't even know where to start. Every country has there problems. But at the end of the day, your not British, and I'm not an American, were just humans.

And then people will look at this guy spouting something he probably thought of almost immediately thinking his real thoughts, or just trolling, and then people think hes everybody in this country of ours. I'm just so done with this stuff man.

It's still not a right. Keep crying.

Why do Americans *need* to own a tactical strategic assault weapon?

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His automatic modification of the rifles was illegal and ERs have to legally treat anyone who comes through the door...not suprised yet another liberal is painting an event with a broad brush of bullshit.

>Boskovich
Damn Slavs

It is precisely because it is not a right and they don't want it to be a right that americans are funny, mister assburger.

Your health care is a fucking joke and your gun legislation needs a complete overhaul. Don't be fucking idiot and pretend like this situation isn't entirely out of place compared to the rest of the modern world.

>America's mental and physical health are beyond fucked so if they started free healthcare now America would bankrupt.
This especially for the physical health.

why do people treat papers like gods? same thing with the bible, it's just dumb, grow up

>imagine being so fucking cucked that you WANT to pay more for healthcare because it's "not a right"

Moron, you're paying for it through taxes. Well maybe not a NEET like you presumably are not but contributing members of your society are.

>ERs have to legally treat anyone who comes through the door
and now they're bankrupt just for getting shot

Get some self awareness.

>Your health care is a fucking joke
Really? I work so that I have health insurance and can have any procedure done quickly. I don't have to sit on a waiting list like half the posters here. Why should I pay for some neckbeard who lives in their parents basement and is working on type two diabetes with a diet of Doritos and Mountain Dew?

Our gun control laws need some work but many states are fairly sane. Also, this guy would have been allowed to purchase a semi-automatic rifle in many countries with stricter laws.

Ah yes I'm the one who is unaware because I realize that universal healthcare still costs people and companies money it just comes out of another pocket.

>and now they're bankrupt just for getting shot
Nice meme. There are limits.

Other countries spend less on universal healthcare than we spend public money on our shitty system numb nuts. Universal healthcare saves money.

This. A rare sane yank

Why do Italians treat a guy in a pointy hat like God? ;)

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>Universal healthcare saves money
Explain.

OH GOD

Alright you got your low effort b8 replies. Now delete the post.

that's going in the folder

instead of an hospital buying 100 packs of drugs and 50 chemo bags at the price of 100 USD each, there's one entity buying 1 million packs of drugs and 500000 chemo bags at the price of 20 USD each.
Machinery use such as xray machines and CT scan lowers, because you won't have to pay a private contractor to give it maintenance, also lower prices because you buy the machines at bulk.

kek you really don't know Italy then

>because you won't have to pay a private contractor to give it maintenance
Beg pardon? We have state hospitals, they're usually for poor people and prison inmates but of course they still obviously hire contractors for maintenance.

I think this would be true of almost any cunt.

BTW, I checked into this Desirinia Boskovich whom I've never heard of. Apparently some crappy pop fiction writer. Also note the problem glasses.

I don't see why anyone would take this person's opinion seriously.

it costs you less when you pay for it via taxes, if you want to be in denial when the quality of living is higher in almost every other first world country, by all means be delusional

I mean I guess we could link this back to your weak early childhood education, prevents you from having developed critical thinking skills

beg your pardon*

Fucking yanks and their terrible English

No, no it doesn't. We pay more for services that aren't even offered in those countries. You're comparing apples to oranges.

Not saying we don't have a cost or spending problem, but the more you look into what the majority of the excess money is spent on, the more you'd realize single payer would only make our system worse.

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thank you designated memelord

Dog bless thank u for ur service :DDDDDD

>it costs you less when you pay for it via taxes
This is a troll, right?

>wagelabour is slavery
>mfw the right wing of america is more communist than the democrats

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then why do soldiers get socialized healthcare?
using the military to enslave your own people, sad...

;)

>then why do soldiers get socialized healthcare?
They do and it sucks. You've heard of the VA scandals, no?

> Americans are hostile to government intervention in markets because it's an overreach of their power
> they don't realise the glaring hypocrisy when they defend free-market laizz-fare capitalism - the ultimate enslaver

Loving every laugh

But Australia is one of the most free market cunts in the world.

qt, would gf

Can someone explain this logic pls

it's not an opinion, it's fact

False equivalence. According to the GOP the guns are his right because he paid for them. The GOP would never oppose somebodys acces to healthcare, which that person paid for by himself.

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Having a completely private system based on hundreds of insurance companies makes admin costs skyrocket. A hospital in the USA needs a billing department with hundreds of people to deal with them all, a hospital in Europe can have a billing dept with less than ten. Now multiply that by thousands of hospitals.

Use your head for a second. Ignoring the massive impact of single payers on price negotiation, your health system needs to support enormous admin costs. Each company needs to pay for separate IT infrastructure, thousands of middle managers, call centers with different training on different products, development and maintenance of data record keeping systems, teams to sell the insurance to employers, marketing teams, teams of lawyers and accountants who all do the same thing just in different companies, even different physical offices which all add bloat. Why do you think companies do M&A? Because you can provide more output with fewer admin costs since you don't need two people to do a job one person can do.

You don't see the same virulent anti socialist arguments from Aussies

We like our universal healthcare and subsidised education system

>the guns are his right because he paid for them
No, the guns are his right because the right to bear arms is specifically outlined in the constitution.

Every word of which was paid for by the blood of patriots and tears of patriotesses.

This is why Americans aren’t ever taken seriously on this board.

It's so good that hordes of Indonesians, Pakis, Cambodians, and chinks all come there to consume the free goodies paid for by your taxes. ;)

contrary to popular opinion, americans are excellent posters

> le 56% country
> will literally be majority non-white by 2030

Are rockets, gatling and bombs "arms"?

Yes, a ship owner even wrote to the founding fathers asking them if a large naval cannon (the largest weapon available at the time) was allowed on his private ship. They said yes
Also, the giradoni rifle, which could shoot almost 60 rounds per second (about 50× faster than contemporary muzzleloaders) was suggested to Lewis & Clark by Thomas Jefferson.

That is the same thing. You have the right to bear arms but that doesn't mean you're entitled to free guns paid for by the government, whilst the healthcare debate is about that. Nobody is talking about making healthcare illegal, that would be insane.

It's the supreme court's job to decide that, not mine

Usa an actual argument, government cuck!
Nobody in this thread actually pointed out how his logic is flawed. They all just chant in like SJWs do on normie forums, just assuming that they are "right" and everyone else is just "too stupid to realize that they are right" while they actually just got another opinion.

I also think that no one has the right to government healthcare. In future history textbooks government healthcare will be considered the cardinal mistake that ultimately ruined every western country.

>The 2nd Amendment is some inviolate, sacred thing carved in cuneiform from time immemorial
What do Yanks think an "amendment" is exactly?

sure
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dumbass

Based

>I also think that no one has the right to government healthcare. In future history textbooks government healthcare will be considered the cardinal mistake that ultimately ruined every western country.
It was ok as long as you had a homogeneous population. So, back in the 1960s or something.

nonono but it's ok because piggy mcBourg said living wages would bring his multi billion dollar company out of bussiness and its also ok because a large part of the manual product labour is outsourced so we don't have to acknowledge that capitalism spreads inequality and poverty because we don't see it!

how do you define a nationwide 'living wage' when the cost of living varies by massive amounts depending on where you live?

>60 rounds per second

It was okay as long as birth rates were high enough to sustain this pyramid scheme (everyone pays, but mostly old people cause all the costs).

Welp, gues it's impossible then. Go home everyone. Poverty is impossible to solve. I guess we'll just have to let 50% of americans fall under the poverty line and just watch them die

They can go live in Sweden just like everyone from the middle east and africa.
Because swedes are so smart that they can solve the poverty problem.

The average private citizen couldn't afford to buy a naval cannon or the ammo for it, so it wasn't a problem anyway.

I've heard the argument "But the 2nd Amendment was written back when weapons weren't as powerful as today". They didn't have fully automatic weapons in the 18th century, yes, but if you got shot by a musket it was still quite bad and you'd have a 50% or more chance of dying.

they didn't have the internet in the 18th century, the founding fathers never intended for the first amendment to be as powerful as it is

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>reduced income inequality
>poverty was removed almost by night
Gee I really have no idea how we were able to solve our poverty, real crux...

It doesn't vary that much though. Time Warmer cable costs the same in Manhattan as it does in Appalachia, most things do. Ford dealerships in Orange County don't charge significantly different prices than rural Texas Ford dealerships. The only thing that changes significantly is housing costs.

Ancaps think taxes = slavery