The Witch

This was pure kino, why the low scores? Sup Forums's thoughts on the film?

I kept waiting for the... good to start.

Then it never came.

Then that retarded ending.

Best horror film in at least a decade, probably longer. Exceptional pleb filter as well, just look at all the comments that will follow this one saying the movie was shit - those people are fucking idiots who should be ignored.

So it was the goat all along?

Since when are plebs allowed in this board?

Pleb filter

I saw it in the theater and I was hanging on every scene. I loved it.

I saw it on torrent later and didn't love it as much, but I already knew what was going to happen.

I need to watch it more to form a better opinion, but it's obviously a good movie. It doesn't claim to be anything other than what it is, a period piece depicting if witches etc were real. It's pretty visceral when you look at it that way. Some of the best kid acting I've seen desu. I'm looking forward to what this guy comes out with next.

What impressed me the most was the quality of the performances of the actors (the dad character, holy shit) and the genuine attempt to make it feel like it took place in that era with the speech and how that affected the actions of the characters. Also an interesting choice to reveal the witch so early in an explicit way, but then see her basically fade into the background and become a sideshow to the family turning against each other.

Note I went in without watching the preview and avoiding the threads about it.

I seriously think this board ruins movies for people.

Agreed. Major pleb filter film. The ending was fucking god-tier.

More like the BITCH!

More of a psychological thriller than horror

>What if witches were real
This is exactly how you are supposed see it. I liked how a lot of the demonic influences could have been attributed to witches even if they didn't exist

horror fans all have awful taste in movies so they hated it

>I seriously think this board ruins movies for people.
Definitely, but people should know to stay away from this place when new movies they want to see are about to be released. I went in expecting something quite different from this film, thought they'd make it so that it was exclusively about a woman getting accused of being a witch and following that process, but this dedication to actually telling a supernatural story actually felt more bold and interesting in a way. Really felt like you got into the mindset of people back then, and the horror really worked for me because the christian medieval type horror just invokes a special type of dread inside me.

Because it's a horror flick, it doesn't even qualify as art. No serious director do that crap

>why the low scores?
Its not Paranormal Activity

The sound levels bothered me. Film of people mumbling but with loud sound effects.

Also the diction wasn't always great which made the above problem worse.. The actors couldn't always deliver the old speech patterns properly and it made some scenes hard to follow (especially the boy's last scene).

If they have such awful taste, they should've loved it.

>Because it's a horror flick
confirmed not seeing the movie

>Best horror film in at least a decade

Gotta love how people throw this around every year now. First it was The Babadook, then It Follows and finally this. What did they all have in common? They were completely average.

>the whole point of the film is to scare people
That's why no one takes these kinds of films seriously

All movies are made to invoke a reaction, what's wrong with them being scary

Yes, but not all movies are art. Horror is not art

Art needs a deep critic about human condition. Horror is just made to scare teenagers

Post the giiirrl, user!

>the whole point of the film is to scare people
If the few scares in the movie are the main things you took away from it then you really just outed yourself as a true pleb.

Fun fact: the actress is Argentine

in the cinema plebs were already saying it's shit and complaining before credits, or laughing at the shack scene.

Horror is probably the most aesthetic genre, of all the genres. And it gets into all kinds of shit about the human condition, if you need that.

There is always a massive amount of hype whenever there's a "horror" film that is more a thriller or character drama then a horror is released.

Lots of reviewers look down on horror so when they see something that is 'more than JUST a horror' they heap praise on it. It's annoying as fuck.

>it follows
YEESH

>blood and creepy stuff are aesthetic
Spotted the psycho, please seek help before you shoot up a cinema

Why do they add the scares then? Because they need them to avoid people getting asleep watching the movie

Every new movie I watch I like to know as little about it as possible before I watch it.

Why the fuck is it spelled with two Vs?

>or laughing at the shack scene
So glad I watched this at home. I bet people laughed at the goat talkingin the cinema, wouldn't suprise me. I was impressed with how much the movie managed to get me on board with the entire world they were conjuring up here.

It's the current benchmark pleb filter.

That alone makes it very important to film and film discussion.

Behold, the greatest idiot on Sup Forums

Wasn't it follows pretty shit?

I said plebs get the fuck out of this board

that's it, it was a world and was trying to conjure the superstitions of that time and put horror into the context of puritan frontiersman while also showing how they were becoming affected psychologically by even quite minor isolation. The actual supernatural elements were fine being ambiguous since it was irrelevant.

It didn't have any strong POC, so it didn't get a good review.

>"I've outed myself as a fool by saying that anything horror isn't art because it's not part of the human experience even though fear may be the most primal thing we all face. L-let me try to make up a reason for why it still isn't legit...uhm, yes, I got it, it's only there to not make the dumb masses watching fall asleep! Yes! That's the only reason!"

forced ending

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>ending is a twist
>"IT WAS FORCED!"

>ending wasn't a twist
>"IT WAS FORCED!"

Pleb filter in full effect.

>Art needs a deep critic about human condition.
Movies aren't books, they don't have to rely on the plot to be artistic, even then does that mean say, landscape paintings aren't art because they aren't defined by your pretentious meaning

Oh, nice argument there

Your ad hominem sure refuted my objective fact!!!!

I thought the way the resentment of the girl builds up throughout the movie starting with her overhearing the discussion about selling her, to learning her father isn't what he makes himself out to be to constantly being accused of being the witch turning into a self fulfilling prophecy was the opposite of forced. It was a long buildup with a spectacular payoff.

You can have a critic about human condition without plot and even dialogue

Please stop putting words in my mouth, don't suggest stuff but talk about what I've actually said

"Let me reply to the one guy who didn't answer with real arguments and ignore the ones that did"
pathetic

I've replied all posts that quoted me

You may think different people are me or that I'm the very only person in the world who doesn't like horror

>it was a world and was trying to conjure the superstitions of that time and put horror into the context of puritan frontiersman
Yes, I loved the way they were sort of one degree removed from being completely relatable since they were acting and talking in a way we don't find completely relatable today. I really really wish more films took this approach to making historical films or inspired by history.

Because there isn't a dearth of argument against you already, you poor fool

Still waiting to see the first one

Ayyyylmaofu

Does she act in any good films? Heard her in an interview and sounded quite coold

Hope she makes something in Spanish

>coold
cool*

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But this film is flawless, the other two are ambitious and a cut or two above your average shitty horror film because they at least try to be better. The Witch tries and succeeds, it's a perfect film.

What other movies are out there like this? Some other horror films I really enjoy are:

The Shining
The Ninth Gate
The Mist
The Fly
Black Swan
The Descent

I also enjoy things like Event Horizon and Pandorum, In the Mouth of Madness, and a few others that I consider more trashy than classy, but you get the jist.

Fantastic movie, waiting for my blu ray to arrive so I can rewatch it.

What do you consider to be a great horror movie made within the past 5 years

Hint: if you can't name a couple, you either have no taste, are not watching enough movies, or both of the above

go korean. they do supernatural best
just watched the wailing. pretty decent

honestly this
It Follows had a great premise but sucked hard in the second half
babadook was alright. i was actually talking with a friend about how shitty the state of horror movies was, that babadook could legit be considered one of the better horror movies of the last decade.

meh

It was a fantastic movie, but holy shit the shack scene was hilarious in retrospect. That was like something out of Goosebumps.

>this comment
There are people with these kinds of dumb opinions about literally every topic, on both sides of each argument. Taste is subjective, and you're just coming off as a conceited cunt

The witch isn't that scary, it's just period piece dread
>ooga booga no modern perspectives
It's really easy to break immersion because of the natural, warranted idiocy of the protagonists. Solid 7/10.

The whole cast is white

Not the goat.

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I understand why people who don't like this movie respond with such vitriol.

It must be painful to be so fuckin dense.

>but holy shit the shack scene was hilarious in retrospect
why? maybe my legit fear of witches blinded me to some of it

Dude she's cute as fuck. YOU are meh.

Trolling.
Maybe they're not dense, they're just overresponding to the flagrant dicksucking you 16 year olds give this decent historical thriller.

Not trolling at all, I'm 24, and this was the best film based on witchcraft since Haxan and deserves every sucking it gets.

Sorry you're so fucked up and upset about it, but part of me is glad that it's that way.

My friend told me it was great. I watched it and was left really unimpressed. Typical "imagined horrors are worse then revealed horrors" film.

Like, I get it, there's weird incesty connotations, value systems break down when people are isolated, yada yada yada. Was there disturbing imagery, sure. Was the imagery compelling enough to salvage the rest of the film? For me, not really. The ending felt too GURL POWER as well.

I had to turn on the subtitles because the voice volumes were so weird

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>p-please spoonfeed me muh narrative I c-can't think objectively for muhself

>"(movie with jumpscares) was so much better"

Literally everyone should kill themselves: the thread.

I want to have incestuous sex with ayyyfu

Take out the yaddas and sures and those are all good points as to why this is a good movie.

You're just using the tone of a cunt.

>Don't you guys get it! Its a period piece were the monsters are the horrors of living in that period! This has NEVER been done before!

Name ten films that do this, faggot

Horror movies from the past decade better than The VVitch:

>Ouija: Origin of Evil
>The Conjuring 2
>Hidden
>Oculus
>The Conjuring
>The Cabin in the Woods
>You're Next
>Insidious
>As Above, So Below
>Trollhunter
>Let Me In (both versions)
>Scream 4
>Frozen
>Zombieland
>Trick 'r' Treat

To name a few.

Horror has come to such shit it is considered as a separate thing from film.
Like when you go to see a horror, the majority of the audience judges the movies completely different from an action/thriller/drama. It's like all the movie elements dissapear and the only measurement of quality of the movie is how many times you got "spooked". It's almost like a rollercoaster ride, not a movie for them.
The studio had to market The Witch as a "scare" horror movie so more people would see it, and when they actually watch it they don't care about the family relations and character development and the production design etc, they just want to get some loud noises after a few seconds of silence every now and then and go home happy "hehe that was spooky"

Stop watching films with your hard preconcieved expectations of what it should be.

I'm not upset about your unimaginative opinion, just this pack of anons you're jockeying for that sounds like a bunch of 16 year olds that just watched their first horror film, and are so stoked by their discovery that anybody who disagrees is objectively idiotic and wrong. Cute, but if I wanted to browse reddit I'd go there

This shit is a thriller. There's nothing terrifying unless you believe witches are real. A true horror pervades your own innate sense of safety, perturbing your own reality. It leaves you feeling vulnerable.

This film would be a great horror if it weren't 2017. It's just a great period piece thriller.

Not him, but:

The Devils
Witchfinder General
The Mask of the Red Death


That said, I don't share his criticism.

>>The Conjuring 2
You are memeing

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I can list multiple flaws for every single film on that list, you say one constructive argument against the execution of any filmmaking element in the Witch

Just need 7 more

4 moves do not a cliche make

Haven't seen that one, but I'll check it out. Thanks for the tip!

Was honestly just probing for movie suggestions, but I know all those already. Thanks anyways, user.

>name a movie where what ever form of christianity existing during its setting is portrayed as the true villain
>name a movie in which the gender conventions of the setting are portrayed as the true villain

can't do, impossible task

>>name a movie where what ever form of christianity existing during its setting is portrayed as the true villain
Silence
Jack and Jill

>muh witch
>muh bible
>muh curse
>muh satan
>muh twins
>muh goat
>muh ye olde english

Fuch this shit.

What? The antagonist of The Witch isn't christianity though. The witch and all of the satanist shit is just a function meant to represent the perils of isolationism and divergence from community in 1600s America.

This is why I'm saying this shit isn't a goddamn horror. There was nothing fucking scary, hence the whole emphasis placed upon the father's guilt. His convictions literally fucked the family over to the point of banishment, which in that time was basically death

This movie just goes
>what if they literally then died?!?! Oooooooo

Not scary.

I largely agree with this.

But honestly christianity is portrayed as at least a minor antagonist. The main chick goes from being complete powerless and under the thumb of her insane parents to free and powerful. How? Through a pact with the devil, a complete and utter refusal of christianity.

This is what was frustrating. I came expecting horror, but instead it was rural girl becomes a strong independent woman by rejecting her parent's suicidal traditions. Its plodding pace leads to a banal social commentary.

I agree. They only depart in the first place because of the father's religious convictions, some type of misalignment with the status quo. I think he believed the community wasn't steadfast enough, therefore making his piety their collective death sentence.

And that's exactly what I'm saying. This shit is social commentary, and I was pissed at the shilling because I went in with a friend all hyped to be terrified. This shit felt like a history channel film (albeit with great performances and high production value).

>The ending felt too GURL POWER as well.
jesus christ, leave your echochamber once in a while

>This bait

Horror is a strange genre. It takes a lot of directive talent to set the proper tones, among other factors to cause fear.However only totally shit writers and directors have been making it for the last two decades.

>Wouldst thou like to live deliciously?
Black Philip was goat