When did Disney morph from THE go to source of wholesome family entertainment to a Godless SJW liberal pandering machine that trashes the very people that made them the giant they are today?
Star Wars was the big eye opener for me. Now it seems everything Disney shits out has some other agenda behind it. When did this happen?
>inb4 fuck off Sup Forums
The truth is hard to swalow for a lot of posters here.
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>wholesome family entertainment
>every single movie portrays the protagonist as either being from a broken family, no family, or conflicted with family
What's wrong with Hercules and The Emperor's New Groove?
>they adapted a medieval French fairytale by Charles Perrault
>omg it's the joos brainwashing our kids
>they adapted a book by Victor Hugo about medieval Paris
>omg le joos are at it again
>they adapted Tarzan, something dating back to Victorian Engand
>geee must be the joos!
>they adapted a story from the Thousand and One Nights
>joooooooooooooos!
>they adapted a Greek myth
>that's it, the joos are out of control
Oh boy am I laughing.
uhh hunny you mean HUNKCULES!
mmmmmm hmmmm
you forgot The Jungle Book and Song of the South for some reason :)
Meg was my first fap
>heh they adapted something, that means they didn't push any agenda at all! Sup Forums BTFO once again by my epic logic
The irrelevant greek wannabe-negro singers are the problem with the entirety of Hercules?
>Hunchback of Notredam
Strong independent gypsie women stands up to ebil white man Frolllo
>Beauty and the Beast
>hey girls don't be frightened of men who look threatening, they're actually misunderstood by society who need you help!
>Tarzan
>run away with this tanned man girls, he's so muscular and you can also civilise him!
>Greek Myth
>sassy obese black women as the muses
>they didn't push any agenda at all!
Where is it then?
Anyways, 'Lady and the Tramp', and 'The little mermaid' had been pushing agendas that would probably aggrevate Sup Forums eons before the Jews took over Dysney.
Anyways,
>Sup Forums's arguing skills
>everyone I disagree with is from Sup Forums
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Empowering women has always been at the forefront of what Walt was bothering to induce in his films, from "itsy bitsy rebellious Ariel", to Lady running away on her own.
Also,
>Notredam
Learn not to spell like a nigger.
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Litterally the same thing happens to Lady though... And that girl from Peter Pan if you really want more of an incentive to believe that it was happening before.
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Read the above. It's basically the same thing here too. Also, to not have this happen would've been to bastardize the Tarzan epics.
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Every Dysney movie has a different musical style, and this one happened to American church singing, of which blacks are the symbol.
>infographic straight out of Sup Forums
>"waaaah don't call me that"
What? Also fuck your picture you faggot.
>Who is this company, whose entire success is based on its savy ability to change and reflect American values, changing to reflect American values?
>everyone I disagree with is a sjw.
>adapted
>not "reworked, trimmed down and completely rewritten with commercialized slickness and all but castrating any sexual or political aspects held by the original stories in order to peddle a product"
The Disneyfied stories are like the mutant bastard derivative of the originals.
Learn to quote lad.
The post-jewish Disney has been pushing race mixing, feminism, and other leftist bullshit since the take over. Now they're pushing faggotry on kids, KIDS!. If it isn't blatantly obvious with the beauty and the beast remake then I don't know what else could convince you.
What do you think the "adaptation" means?
Only an SJW would get butthurt at someone saying Disney is pushing a political agenda.
when the kikes took over
but thank GOD the allied won huh?
Fuck off, retard.
Their shills are here. Make no mistake. No company has as elaborate propaganda as Disney. They have massive amount of journalists under their pay checks and countless underpaid Asians on social media to shill their brands.
They push for divershitty because it empowers the politicians they have control of.
>No one Brokebacks Iike Gaston
Only a Sup Forumstard would be stupid enoough to not know that all art is inherently political and it's not Disney's fault that the current political climate in America triggers you
You forgot the part where the hunchback gets cucked by the handsome white spaniard with blond hair.
correlation =\= causation
A shift in values also allowed jews to get to those positions. Do you genuinely believe there is a jewish conspiracy against the white race?
>are like the mutant bastard derivative of the originals.
I won't deny that they do dance around what the original narratives were, but concerning some of these, they don't explicitely do much to betray the original intent entertained by those stories.
Hugo would've probably been celebrating that his story was retread with the "agluglub poor gypsies ;-;" thing in there, socialist that he was. Perrault is a XVth century French fable author. He couldn't care less that his story was borrowed for a "learn to not judge a book by its cover" story, since he wrote "The cat in boots", or however you say that in English, which is about social ascencion and the poor rising up. Tarzan doesn't have any message to it that is inherently political, besides than to be sold cheaply as books that invoked fears and admiration people had about the colonies, especially about it changeing a civilized Englishman into a savage, which is where Disney takes liberties since it isn't wholly too demeaning of the whole part about being a savage, and takes kindly to it too. The thousand and one nights is something to tell to arab children. Good luck finding a strong political message buried in there.
>The post-jewish Disney has been pushing race mixing, feminism, and other leftist bullshit since the take over.
They're not. Of course, they're jews, and are keen to be economically-viable, as they do care for money, and therefore maintain themselves with the times, but that's literally it.
Paranoid much?
>Do you genuinely believe there is a jewish conspiracy against the white race?
You seriously don't want to hear the answer to this m8
And then intercially couples with a gypsie.
And yet they couldn't pay for favorable Iron fist reviews? Something doesn't add up here.
Only a faggot wouldn't want to tap that gipsy.
Even the stuck up priest wanted some.
>equating the Muses with gospel singers
It's quite brilliant actually
So are you saying Disney adapting books, fairy tales or folk tales that have non-white protagonists or love interests every so often is some kind of nefarious agenda? I mean, the hunchback of notre dame is kind of a western classic. So is beauty and the beast.
as usual, the most salient posts are ignored. never change Sup Forums
>jews are taught by birth that they are the chosen people and that other races are goyim (cattle)
>even non-religious jews have a grudge against white people for kicking them out of their countries for centuries.
>white people finally let them in
>somehow they become the CEOs of all major News organisations and other media companies
>they push race mixing, homosexuality, on the goyim
Not all jews, are like this but the jewish members of the elite? They certainly have a vendetta against white people.
>>even non-religious jews have a grudge against white people for kicking them out of their countries for centuries.
Why yes I am going to listen you, you who has never once in their life had a conversation with a Jew. The greater part of them aren't even aware that kingdoms in Europe exiled them more than once in History.
When you got to be over 12 and were still watching media targeted at children
>Jews
>50%+ intermarriage rate
>Over 50% atheistic
Yea I bet they're taught the goyim are cattle and this isn't just a case of Nazi shills cherry picking rhetoric out of obsolete religious texts that almost no one cares about.
Kys trash
>Dude if it has a female lead it's part of the SJW liberal agenda lmao
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with this board?
>gay character turns out to be a gay character in the live-action
shocking
Standard ideologue behavior. Take a once-meaningful label like "SJW" and start to apply it to more and more things until something as simple as fundamentally decent human beings are "SJWs." It's propaganda, just a primitive form of it that only tricks retards. Which is everyone on Sup Forums and most people here. Basically they're just fascist boot-lickers trying to demonize everything outside of their narrow obsession of licking boots.
While Disney can still make an okay flick once in a while (actually I can't think of a recent one at the moment), I honestly think Walt would be disgusted with what his company has become. Disneyland itself is an overpriced and overcrowded trash heap. I'm never going there again.
The real dividing line is Disney before 1960, and Disney after 1960. The former was an ambitious studio that encouraged skilled artists to explore the medium of animated film. The latter is a pale imitation with none of the drive or scope of the original. Calling the 90's period a renaissance is a misnomer because this new Disney has none of the qualities of the old company.
Every Jew I've met identifies as white, too.
>white, too.
Yup there's that too. There's no denying that they're communatarist as hell, and know that to congregate between themselves is what is more beneficial for them, which is why I have the teeniest bit of disliking for them, but to say that they have hatred for whites is ludicrous and farcical.
communautarian*
Fuck off. Jews saved Disney. When they took over we went from aristocrats to little mermaid
Art is nonpartisan. Its conceptual, relational, institutional or formalistic.
t. poltard
Is this accurate?
I agree, though I argue 90s Disney was kino. This weird push to have gays in kids stuff and all this token race pandering is disgusting.
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Yeah. One of my roommates is Jewish. He complains all the time about Israel and how exclusive the community is.
This. They adapt to modern audience. When was the last time you saw a white normal family?
>we went from a whimsical satire of aristocratic culture to a story about a spoiled girl who gets what she wants in the end no matter what and is a complete bastardization of the original story
>Art is nonpartisan
This has never been correct. Are you to say paintings like Guernica are not art because it's a statement against Nazis?
You'd think Sup Forumsbeards would support the message of Beauty and the Beast. They always insist that their inside superior white genes still makes up for their hideous outwards appearance
Being against something doesn't mean you are part of or support a group that is also against the thing.
>t. poltard
You didn't need to tell us
>One thowaway gag line
>OMG GAYS LEAVE THE CHILDREN OUT OF IT
If it was teaching kids how to butt fuck, I'd be against it to, buy otherwise I don't see the issue. Bugs Bunny kissed Elmer Fudd as a joke and nobody blew a gasket.
This needs to be edited to current era Disney. 1990's Disney was actually pretty good but what they're now doing with all those shitty remakes is really sad.
Why does the Sup Forumsestinian always get so paranoid about being named?
How you like your princess and the frog senpai?
Picasso was part of the anti-fascist movement in Spain though so I'm not sure what point you're making.
Guernica is not a statement against nazis. It's a formalist piece inspired by the bombing of a village that meant a lot to Picasso.
Art + politics is propaganda. Art is always nonpartisan, or else it is propaganda.
It's explicitly an anti-war piece.
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Why does the truth trigger you schlomo?
>I watch disney cartoons for the art content and the social commentary
T. inmature sperg kid who gets all his outside world information from Sup Forums
Better than Frozen/Wreck-It-Ralph/Moana/etc..
Are you triggered it had a niggress in it? Even though she hooked up with a brown guy?
That's your interpretation. It is, as most of Picasso's work, pure formalism.
As he said so himself about Guernica
>..this bull is a bull and this horse is a horse... If you give a meaning to certain things in my paintings it may be very true, but it is not my idea to give this meaning. What ideas and conclusions you have got I obtained too, but instinctively, unconsciously. I make the painting for the painting. I paint the objects for what they are.
A painting for the paintings sake. Pure formalism.
fight on, keyboard warrior
>lol fucking neckbeard loser!
Are you some feminist shitforbrains? Calling someone a neckbeard on Sup Forums is like saying a tumblrina is a landwhale,
I don't watch Disney cartoons. I've seen maybe one or two. I don't think movies, especially animated movies are art. I'm here for the art discussion when I saw someone say that art is always political, which is flat out wrong. Art is never political unless it is propaganda.
>wholesome family entertainment
>family entertainment
>entertainment
I fucking hated the Disney movies as a kid. Always have. Always will. Boring musical bullshit nonsense. Fuck you if you enjoy old Disney movies.
Diego Rivera begs to differ
"All art is propaganda. If it isn't propaganda, it isn't art."
Apparently jews are actual master race; more intelligent and hard working than your average Sup Forums poster
>I'm here for the art discussion
>THE JOOS RACE MIXING AGENDA YOU SCHLOMO TRIGGERED MUCH SJW TUMBLRINA?
sure thing, honey
Gay people are real. Deal with it.
Ok, look. Disney is just shit now originallity wise.
The progressive agenda pushing is just the icing on the burnt cake. Also it generates clickbait headlines that drive ticket sales.
(((Donald Trump))) won the election. Sup Forums is now a zionist board. Your days of Jew hysterics is done.
Go to Malaysia or get roped.
Then he was a politician, not an artist. Art is for the sake of movement. Its meaning and symbols are for the viewer not for the artist.
If he had any policies to push and he did so in speech or paintings, he is a politician.
Maybe its easier to read him through relational aesthetics.
Are you guys going to chimp out when someone Gallagers that big pumpkin head on live TV? I bet you will. It's going to be funny watching you get shot by the military on your walmart scooter.
At least you're honest about being a neckbeard.
Feminists being fat and ugly isn't as ironic as Sup Forums. Feminists rant about being oppressed and wanting equality, which fits their hideous status. However Sup Forumsbeards talk about being genetically superior despite their hideous status.
Even most white nationalists admit Jews are the smartest race.
It must be horrible to talk about racial hierarchies yet accept that you're not on the top in intelligence, the most important quantifier.
>I will fight degeneracy with my cunning intellect cultivated by Sup Forums. We are the true warriors of our time and fate will smile upon us as we overcome our SJW enemies
I'm not triggered, my lad.
As a /lit/ user I'm already superior to all Sup Forums posters, seeing you say that art is never political without never actually arguing it is making me laugh.
Protip: Saying something over and over doesn't make it true
>Disney shills and Sup Forumstards are making my thread about Jews.
Please stay on topic guys.
Sup Forums here
genetic superiority is a meme - africans have the warrior gene and better muscle fibers and higher testosterone on average, chinks have a higher average IQ
We just wanna preserve the white race in white countries. That's literally it. Fuck off with your strawman.
Yeah we need to focus on fighting the corruption of our youth. I'm 14 years old btw. But i'm pretty adult for my age.
>Art is for the sake of movement. Its meaning and symbols are for the viewer not for the artist.
why is it that ignorant people always take this kind of affected speech pattern when spouting bullshit about things they don't comprehend?
you're just contradicting yourself by using those big words, kiddo
there is no such thing as art without inherent meaning, you dolt and the more you separate the meaning from the author in order to put it in the eyes of the beholder then the more you allow the actual zeitgeist of the epoch in which this art is produced to assign it the political sense
everything is discourse you dense twat, the nihilistic idea of intellectual or aestethical production being devoid of meaning is just highschool edgyness
fiction isn't art lit. lol. only paint and sculpting is art. fiction is at best kitsch.
The Jungle book wasn't SJW was it?
Stop being virgins who can't get laid then
>debunk your strawman
>come back with another one
P O T T E R Y
I am an artist. I have studied fine arts. I have a ba hons in fine arts.
To understand a Pollock you don't need to understand any meaning or symbol, you need to understand the recording of movements he made. Like all art, a brush stroke is a recording of a movement. its formalism.
Symbols and meanings are what you learn about art in elementary school. Its wank.
Except lion king. I liked that. Btw why are kids not allowed to watch horror or action movies anymore. Fondest memories was staying up late with dad watching IT and nightmare on elm street till my mom came to living room pissed because she couldnt get enough sleep.
>muh strawman!
>Stop trolling!
>haha! my logic is superior to yours!
>this is a serious discussion!
What does the Sup Forumsbeard mean by this?
>resorting to strawmanning your own strawman
holy shit this is why you're losing the culture war
just love your race dude, whichever race it may be. Unless you're mixed, in which case I feel bad