Boy, did Italy fuck up

Boy, did Italy fuck up.

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>valued explorers
Now they have 20 sudaca states who don't give a fuck about Spain and make no profit for them.
>valued cathedrals
Now they have beautiful architecture all over the country which attracts millions of tourists and make big profit.

This nigga talks bullshit.

how can you be this retarded

just because he's a turk?

prove him wrong

>christtards are so fascist and backwards that they don't conquer other continents and genocide their inhabitants
is this your brain on the neoliberal scientism narrative?

mmmh, wut? italians were the jewestest happy merchants ever, this guy is retarded

He's right

italy as a country didn't even exist at the time

>italy
>XV century

>John Cabot (Italian: Giovanni Caboto, Venetian: Zuan Chabotto; c. 1450 – c. 1500) was a Venetian navigator and explorer whose 1497 discovery of the coast of North America under the commission of Henry VII of England was the first European exploration of the mainland of North America since the Norse visits to Vinland in the eleventh century.

Italy was not even a country until 1861-1871, by that time pretty much all Spanish colonies were independent except for the Philippines, Equatorial Guinea and some islands in the Caribbean like Cuba.

Lies!
Heart of every being speak Italian

maybe if you valuing building cathedrals and started valuing country builder italy would have existed ;)

Well, the Roman Empire and the Holy Roman Empire is something, but Italy is a cool country

Cabot? For real? This retard lives in fucking America

>Amerigo Vespucci (Italian pronunciation: [ameˈriːɡo vesˈputtʃi]; March 9, 1454 – February 22, 1512) was an Italian explorer, financier, navigator and cartographer who first demonstrated that Brazil and the West Indies did not represent Asia's eastern outskirts as initially conjectured from Columbus' voyages, but instead constituted an entirely separate landmass hitherto unknown to people of the Old World.

Doesn't that kind of prove his point though? The Italian city-states weren't interested in sponsoring exploration, so actual explorers like Cabot and Columbus had to go to other countries that would be more willing, and win them influence and glory instead.

this

SHITALY BTFO

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why would they? They would literally kill their own trade route that made them rich by doing so, also italy didn't exist back then

Black science guy should stick to black science and leave black history to black historians.

Where did the Spanish language come from again?

also this >imperialism is evil
>italian catholics were evil
two_button_meme.jpg

Why is he still relevant? What a fucking idiot.

Black science guy should stop raping women.
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Kek
Spain is the third most visited country in the world by tourists. They also spread their nice architecture across the colonies.

they weren't interested because they had some problems different from building cathedrals

But Spain generates more revenue through travel and tourism

American education strikes again
Oh and the Italian Wars never happens

And just about everyone of those countries is a shithole

>Latin American architecture

Italy didn't exist as a country at that time.
Holy shit this cosmo meme nigger just gets worse and worse.

Famous Italian scientists:
>da Vinci
>Fibonacci
>Galilei
>Avogadro
>Galvani
>Fermi
etc

Famous Spanish scientists:
>...

literally the only reason why people go to spain is because of beaches.

not as if italys list is very impressive for such a populous country..

Italy has one of the greatest legacies in science and exploration.

Quality>quantity

Italy has beautiful cathedrals tho
or is that rome?

People visit Spain not for historical sights but for recreational tourims in resorts like Barcelona, Malaga etc. It what's nature gave them.

italy has neither lmao
france, uk, germany are the big 3 in science (traditionally, nowadays you habe some others like the us and japan too)

ask him what his people did

Low quality bait

That looks nothing like Spain

Another great shitpost from based Neil. Some day you faggots with appreciate him for what a gift he is.

>implying France is more relevant than Italy regarding scientific contributions

If you think otherwise you are utterly fucking retarded.

It absolutely is

and niggers valued nothing
that's why no one speaks any african language in the whole world

spanish catholicism was hardcore, the inquisition was the KGB of old spain, would torture you long enough that you didnt care and confessed whatever they said you did, kinda like modern day china.

ad hominem to the extreme

Madrid has more visitors than Barcelona and it has no coast

t. buttblasted nigger

You need to define what "visitors mean"
France is or was not long ago the most visited country in the world but a decent chunk of it is because it happens to be in the way between Europe and spain and the UK and the rest of Europe

This is objectively false, Columbus was a lonely long shot expedition, Cortés was disobeying orders, there was no such thing as a state policy favoring exploration over cathedrals even in Portugal. Also, nevermind some of Italy was under Spanish rule during the age of discovery, or that Italy did not exist as such.

This is sounds like bullshit gib link to statistics.

that's all he does desu
wonder if he's an autist like us

i thought i was on Sup Forums for a second

I bet he's right now browsing this thread and laughing away. God I love that man.

Ok I've found statistics myself and learned that burger talks bullshit.

>Catalonia=Barcelona
You are a dumbfuck.Gerona has a lot of French tourism,Sitges is full of faggots from all over Europe and Salou is massive.Get a shower,gain height,grow a chin and get a clue loser

Go fuck yourself amerishart I just proved my point that people are going to Spain not for historical sights but for beaches you stupid sudaca who probably doesn't have a citizenship.

Uh, America?

>[T]uttavia, per molti secoli l’italiano è rimasto una lingua di élite posseduta da una netta minoranza della popolazione: le stime su quanti fossero gli italofoni al momento dell’unità d’Italia variano dal 2,5% (De Mauro 1976: 43) al massimo di un 10% circa (Castellani 1982).

>Sino a fine Ottocento/inizio Novecento l’italiano era dunque una lingua alta, poco usata, e da pochi, nella conversazione ordinaria, e si trovava in regime di diglossia con il dialetto.
>Quest’ultimo era infatti la lingua dell’uso parlato quotidiano, mentre l’italiano, per la parte della popolazione che lo possedeva, era riservato agli usi scritti e formali.
>Con il progressivo diffondersi dell’istruzione scolastica, con eventi quali l’introduzione del servizio militare obbligatorio e le due guerre mondiali, con trasformazioni (con funzione unificante e antidialettale dal punto di vista linguistico) quali il passaggio da società agricola a società industriale e postindustriale e l’avvento delle moderne comunicazioni di massa (De Mauro 1976: 51-125) avutesi durante l’ultimo secolo, l’italiano si è via via esteso a fasce della popolazione che di fatto non lo conoscevano o non lo praticavano se non in situazioni particolari, e a domini di impiego in precedenza tipico territorio del dialetto.
>Negli ultimi cinquant’anni la situazione di diglossia protrattasi per secoli si è quindi mutata in una situazione che tecnicamente si direbbe di dilalìa: l’italiano è oggi impiegato da una fascia consistente della popolazione anche nella conversazione quotidiana, accanto al dialetto.
>De Mauro, Tullio (1976), Storia linguistica dell’Italia unita, Roma - Bari, Laterza, 2 voll. (1a ed. 1963).
>Castellani, Arrigo (1982), Quanti erano gl’italofoni nel 1861?, «Studi linguistici italiani» 8, pp. 3-26.

>tfw ameridumb measure system is measured in the metric system anyway
>they formally accepted the metric system in 1785 but never implemented it
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>ywn be a 16th century explorer

Spain has lots of underrated cathedrals and architecture. Maybe not as amazing as Italy, but still over the world's average by far.
>Ramón y Cajal
>Severo Ochoa
>Miguel Servet
>Gregorio Marañón
>Jorge Juan y Santacilia
>Andrés Manuel del Río
>Juan de la Cierva
Not being "famous" shows how ignorant you are.
This.

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Tyson believes is human made global warming. Max Stirner wrote that there are seemingly irreligious people who are actually very religious. Instead of in god they believe in the good cause or the fatherland. And to me Tyson is also a believer.

i wish people were enlightened by more serious authors then stirner

>then
*than

Tyson is also against borders.

Yeah, you sure know about it.
People visit Spain for both. It's just that Italy doesn't have anything else going for it aside from historical sights.
Even in the new world, spanish style architecture is a source of tourism.

>the inquisition was the KGB of old spain
>when allegedly spanish people buy into the black myth

Bad meme, are you even actually Spanish?

Nope, no notable cathedrals in Spain

>allegedly spanish people buy into the black myth
i never heard of this black myth thing, and you must know very little about the inquisition to think my comparison isnt valid
t. Spanish person

>only latino shitholes rely on tourism

most retarded shit ive ever heard

> americans itt trying to show off their knowledge and dfending nig degross tysen
lol wtf

>LE EPIC BLACK ATHEIST REDDITMAN NORMALFAG """""""""SCIENTIST"""""""""
Epic.

neither Italy or Italian language existed during the age of exploration. furthermore, Spain valued cathedrals more than anyone else.

>Italian language didn't exist 500 years ago

LMAO

>entire spanish inquisition kills fewer people over a longer period of time than the us prison system
>only executes people after a fair trial

>muh ebul inquisition murdered a gorillion people :'(

I hate the Spaniards for producing the bean rape babies plaguing the US.
Even the rest of Europe knew how stupid they were at their approach of colonialism.

Oh yes, the belgians, italians and the dutch sure were better at colonialism

There was no standardised 'Spanish language' at that time either

Why did countries in the Western Hemisphere where Britain showed up turn out so much nicer than ones where Spain and Portugal arrived, which pretty much all turned into shit?

I doubt Tyson would say imperialism is evil. Objective and practical people can understand the many benefits in the long term of it, even it isn't "nice".

>tyson
>objective or practical

Dude is ideology incarnate

Tyson is an idiot who should never have a political opinion. Many people speak Spanish because they were ruthless colonizers and did it better than Italy.

Not because of "valuing explorers" more.

>Tyson is an idiot who should never have a political opinion.

Or opinions on history, philosophy, religion, film, or literature, yet he feels compelled to publicly make moronic statements about them all the time.

Not entirely true. They also have their fair share of old buildings, or at least way more than i was expecting

>inquisition
>fair trial
enough internet for you, go tell someone else about their country you literal retard
you might be right about inquisition killing less people than the US prison system, mainly because spain only had around 20 million citizens back then

This
The only reason I want to visit Spain is for the architecture and maybe food. If I want beaches the Caribbean is closer and has significantly less Germans digging holes, Islamic terrorism, and Brits proving their inability to handle alcohol.

Or maybe because the entire inquisition on multiple continents killed maybe a few thousand seditious heretics at most

>france
More than Italy, huh? Care to explain that position?

M8 I am Spaniard.The only place that I can think of with a similar architecture is some parts of Menorca and Cadiz.If you don't believe me just search any Spanish city and look if they have similar architecture

Not him but I've heard that too. While zealous, the Spanish Inquisition acquitted the vast majority of people they tried and always provided notice of an impending inquisition to people under suspicion so that they could form a legitimate defence.

is the nofap prussian /ourthinker/?

i never said the inquisition was mass murderes, i just made a legit comparison with the KGB political police, its a pretty similar concept
the inquisition used torture mainly with protestants and jews

The British leave a foundation of infrastructure like railways, highways, build up defenses and react to attempts of local and external takeover swiftly.

How do Andalucia and Catalonia lack cultural heritage?

The Belgians are the only colonialists who got it right.